Dear Devs: Arch Tempered Monster fights should be designed to kill the hunter

[Herr Schadenfreude]

So I loaded up the new AT Rey Dau fight this morning for the very first time and... I beat it?

I... I just beat it.

Why? Why doesn't an AT monster kill me the first time I fight it? Why didn't it stun me once? Why didn't it chain me to death once?

The standard for AT monsters should be this: every hunter fails the mission the first time. THAT is the standard. If you can't triple-cart the hunter the first time they fight the AT monster, go back and make it harder.

[wackyspartan]

Imma be real chief, I think if you beat AT rey dau first try, there's going to be very few things that are going to be difficult for you in video games and you just need to accept that you're actually like, really good at the game lmao

[Soji]

I didn't expect to die or anything but I did expect new attacks at least! I thought that was the entire point of the title, but no, it's just the normal Rey Dau with extra lightning attached to its normal attacks. I think if anything that should be the standard, since you know, that's the standard they've set already with this title. It was barely different from normal Rey Dau, it wasn't even more aggressive.

[Herr Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by wackyspartan:

Imma be real chief, I think if you beat AT rey dau first try, there's going to be very few things that are going to be difficult for you in video games and you just need to accept that you're actually like, really good at the game lmao

Absolutely not. I'm a middle of the road hunter, but I'm pretty sure EVERYONE failed the first AT Xeno Jiva quest.

[DoteiAnima]

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Originally posted by wackyspartan:

Imma be real chief, I think if you beat AT rey dau first try, there's going to be very few things that are going to be difficult for you in video games and you just need to accept that you're actually like, really good at the game lmao

Absolutely not. I'm a middle of the road hunter, but I'm pretty sure EVERYONE failed the first AT Xeno Jiva quest.

Same for Kirin, maybe lunastra, and definetly extremoth, leshen, and nergi

[Old Madao]

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Originally posted by wackyspartan:

Imma be real chief, I think if you beat AT rey dau first try, there's going to be very few things that are going to be difficult for you in video games and you just need to accept that you're actually like, really good at the game lmao

Absolutely not. I'm a middle of the road hunter, but I'm pretty sure EVERYONE failed the first AT Xeno Jiva quest.

didnt fail first try any of those, only fight i failled in high rank was behe.... (just cause fight is actually not rly designed for solo but you still can beat it with practice obvious) rey dau fight is decent getting around 8m kill will take a while with melee weapon. True hard part about mh is actaully getting a fast kill not killing monster..

[Herr Schadenfreude]

Originally posted by Old Madao:

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Absolutely not. I'm a middle of the road hunter, but I'm pretty sure EVERYONE failed the first AT Xeno Jiva quest.

didnt fail first try any of those, only fight i failled in high rank was behe.... (just cause fight is actually not rly designed for solo but you still can beat it with practice obvious) fight is decent getting around 8m kill will take a while with melee weapon

^^^ This guy is a straight up liar and troll, please don't engage with him

[Shadow Sneak]

Originally posted by wackyspartan:

Imma be real chief, I think if you beat AT rey dau first try, there's going to be very few things that are going to be difficult for you in video games and you just need to accept that you're actually like, really good at the game lmao

well, this should be the case if the fight would have been actually difficult. you can easily die in this fight for sure, but it also is not that hard to recognize what get's you killed and just avoid risky plays.
anyways, for many people who played iceborne (myself included), at rey dau just feels like what should have been the default strength of monsters in this game, because there were normal fights later in the expansion, that atleast felt like thatand it was the most fun. but people also have somewhat wrong expectations for wilds and missleading memories of world as well.
like i went back to world just to compare stuff and it really is not like monsters are mechanically more challenging in base world than in base wilds.
it is kind of inaccurate that wilds has easier fights, but while the fights themselves are not easier, we have much more stuff to work with, to make it feel this way. and naturally you only feel like playing the real game, when you make use of it.
i can easily say, when i would have tried blocking rey dau's attacks in world (just imagine they add him the way he is now to world), i would have died, since there is no perfect block in this game and blocking with gs can actually get you killed there. and well, then there is the stat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ we have in wilds, to the point where eq early on feels like the broken defender gear in world, that was meant to let new people run through the base game to see the expansion faster. and on top of that, more people are experienced mh players now.
anyways, because of all this, we actually need monsters to be even stronger than in world, to get a somewhat comparable experience. especially when we now have so many experienced players, that all have played world + iceborne already. the thing just is, that capcom wanted new players of any sort to be able to finish the whole game easily.
i think the reason being, that only half of people bought the expansion, seemingly because they already struggled in base world.

[Old Madao]

Originally posted by Shadow Sneak:

Originally posted by wackyspartan:

Imma be real chief, I think if you beat AT rey dau first try, there's going to be very few things that are going to be difficult for you in video games and you just need to accept that you're actually like, really good at the game lmao

well, this should be the case if the fight would have been actually difficult. you can easily die in this fight for sure, but it also is not that hard to recognize what get's you killed and just avoid risky plays.
anyways, for many people who played iceborne (myself included), at rey dau just feels like what should have been the default strength of monsters in this game, because there were normal fights later in the expansion, that atleast felt like thatand it was the most fun. but people also have somewhat wrong expectations for wilds and missleading memories of world as well.
like i went back to world just to compare stuff and it really is not like monsters are mechanically more challenging in base world than in base wilds.
it is kind of inaccurate that wilds has easier fights, but while the fights themselves are not easier, we have much more stuff to work with, to make it feel this way. and naturally you only feel like playing the real game, when you make use of it.
i can easily say, when i would have tried blocking rey dau's attacks in world (just imagine they add him the way he is now to world), i would have died, since there is no perfect block in this game and blocking with gs can actually get you killed there. and well, then there is the stat ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ we have in wilds, to the point where eq early on feels like the broken defender gear in world, that was meant to let new people run through the base game to see the expansion faster. and on top of that, more people are experienced mh players now.
anyways, because of all this, we actually need monsters to be even stronger than in world, to get a somewhat comparable experience. especially when we now have so many experienced players, that all have played world + iceborne already. the thing just is, that capcom wanted new players of any sort to be able to finish the whole game easily.
i think the reason being, that only half of people bought the expansion, seemingly because they already struggled in base world.

someone who actually has some sense, no bro you have to scream world was harder cause its meta

[Jaevwyn]

Beat first time, 0 carts. came with Thun Res 20, 2 piece Zoh 2 Piece Gore, with ajarakan SnS killed in 12mins.

seems like it hits less hard than a 5 star temp Rey, did notice the AT Rey was a 3 star.

had one new move and just put aoe on all attacks, very disappointed

[Matt & the Cat]

I died on my first kill but that was because of inclement lightning then following was a stun and his big bang attack. I got super unlucky.

[Notter]

I am very disappointed by AT Rey Dau and the difficulty balance of the game.
They've hyped us for 2 months for this fight and it was really nothing.
just lingering strikes for some of his attacks. That's it.
That took months to develop.

imo, the developers either just don't want to make any fight challenging because they don't see MH as a challenging game (which would be bizarre, because what's the point of getting stronger with gear if there is no challenge).

or, more likely, the developers are DEATHLY AFRAID of the community and the influx of new players to the franchise, that they just won't give us any meaningful challenge.

This game just doesn't have anything in it for veteran players, and seeing AT Rey Dau, I think until the expansion, there also probably won't be.

[StillPate]

thats because you ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ prob wore all lightning res gear/immortal builds lmfao

[Old Madao]

Originally posted by Notter:

I am very disappointed by AT Rey Dau and the difficulty balance of the game.
They've hyped us for 2 months for this fight and it was really nothing.
just lingering strikes for some of his attacks. That's it.
That took months to develop.

imo, the developers either just don't want to make any fight challenging because they don't see MH as a challenging game (which would be bizarre, because what's the point of getting stronger with gear if there is no challenge).

or, more likely, the developers are DEATHLY AFRAID of the community and the influx of new players to the franchise, that they just won't give us any meaningful challenge.

This game just doesn't have anything in it for veteran players, and seeing AT Rey Dau, I think until the expansion, there also probably won't be.

if you was actually a veteran you would already know high rank is not hard... also i wonder everyone post their 10m+ kills, what happened to 2m kills ppl been whining about xd

[DoteiAnima]

Originally posted by Old Madao:

Originally posted by Notter:

I am very disappointed by AT Rey Dau and the difficulty balance of the game.
They've hyped us for 2 months for this fight and it was really nothing.
just lingering strikes for some of his attacks. That's it.
That took months to develop.

imo, the developers either just don't want to make any fight challenging because they don't see MH as a challenging game (which would be bizarre, because what's the point of getting stronger with gear if there is no challenge).

or, more likely, the developers are DEATHLY AFRAID of the community and the influx of new players to the franchise, that they just won't give us any meaningful challenge.

This game just doesn't have anything in it for veteran players, and seeing AT Rey Dau, I think until the expansion, there also probably won't be.

if you was actually a veteran you would already know high rank is not hard... also i wonder everyone post their 10m+ kills, what happened to 2m kills ppl been whining about xd

I disagree, High rank can definetly be hard, but every example i would bring up (at nergi, leshen, akantor, ukanlos, and others) you would Just Say you did It First try, so instead ill make you notice this, why Is, a tempered mizu 5 stars, way harder than the arch tempered Rey dau? Why Is the arch tempered only 3 stars?

[Dagný]

Originally posted by Herr Schadenfreude:

Originally posted by Old Madao:

didnt fail first try any of those, only fight i failled in high rank was behe.... (just cause fight is actually not rly designed for solo but you still can beat it with practice obvious) fight is decent getting around 8m kill will take a while with melee weapon

^^^ This guy is a straight up liar and troll, please don't engage with him

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