So do I basically need a PS5 or high end gaming pc to play this?

[applejuice27]

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[NeoX]

Originally posted by applejuice27:

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Nah, midrange system with an age of 4-5 years are also fine for 1080p native 30fps medium settings (core console like).

Please keep in mind this game is very CPU depending. The GPU is not that much depending. Even a midrange card with 12-16GB of VRAM performs properly in its range. But if your CPU is too weak, no GPU will help you.

If we are completely realistic here:

Please keep in mind this game was core designed for console PS5 with its targeted performence power:
For native 30 fps 1080P on medium settings, the following PS5 equal hardware is recommended:

CPU: Ryzen 5700X/5800X
GPU: RX6750XT 12 GB VRAM
RAM: 16GB (just for the game)
Storage: PCIe 4.0 NVMe Speed + DirectStorage Support

If you have more power then that, go for it! If less, then well... You know.

The problem is that the official hardware requirements are upscaling based and that some users have unrealistic expectations when it comes to performance of their hardware.

[Ottomic]

If you don't want to play on xbox 360 mode, you are going to need at least a 4070 super or better, and a CPU to match. Even with those specs, you are going to have to run it with framegen to even be able to smell 60 fps.

The problem is not that the game is very demanding, but that it looks like utter ♥♥♥♥ unless it's on "high" preset with the high res texture pack on. And I'm not being a graphics snob or anything here, take a whiff of how "medium" preset looks:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3454601410

This is 100% reproduceable, and it's not considered to be a bug by the developers. This is how the "Medium" preset looks.

To make the game look anywhere half decent, you're going to have to run it on "high" textures with the HRTP. This already gives you an overhead of about 6 GB VRAM, base (at 2k resolution).

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3454671684

Then there's the lighting system. If you're not running ray tracing, the "lighting" will consist of puddles of tv static-like, low res, fuzzy particle effects.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3456026361

Anyone who tells you that the game "works" in a mid-to-cheap rig, this is what they mean. This is what they consider to be acceptable, graphics wise. Up to you if you consider it acceptable.

So, just with the textures and ray tracing you're already on a razor's edge if you want to keep 60 fps with a 3080 of above at 2k resolution (framegen on, supersampling on "performance", mind you). And that's before things get intense.

So yeah, unless you have what I would consider a quite beefy gaming PC, game's going to look like ass. You can make it work on a lower spec for sure, but it looks so aggressively bad that I would not recommend it for $20, nevermind $70.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by applejuice27:

So do I basically need a PS5 or high end gaming pc to play this?
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No. I am running the game on a cheap laptop via wifi just fine.

[drunken.dx]

If my 800€ potato can run this, then you only need high end gaming PC if you're one of those who are obsessed with running stuff at 2000 fps

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by drunken.dx:

If my 800€ potato can run this, then you only need high end gaming PC if you're one of those who are obsessed with running stuff at 2000 fps

I could not agree more.

[BraveLeeDX]

Originally posted by アンジェル:

Originally posted by applejuice27:

So do I basically need a PS5 or high end gaming pc to play this?
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No. I am running the game on a cheap laptop via wifi just fine.

Out of pure curiosity what laptop?

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Originally posted by applejuice27:

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yes.

[boy i'll whip ya head]

this game has the worst optimization i have ever seen in my entire life. unless you have a godlike rig with like a 4070 super you're going to be suffering with graphics that are so bad they legitimately hurt your eyes.

[Xaelon]

I can't speak for anyone else but the game runs fine on my RTX 3060 Ti. I play at 1080p, 60 FPS with balanced frame gen and most graphics options on med or high. No frame drops or anything. Besides the GPU I have an Intel 13th gen i5, 32GB RAM and a Gen 4 SSD. Nothing brand new or close to high end.

As long as you aren't expecting to run the game at 1440p/120FPS on budget hardware, you should be able to make it work well enough.

If you want better advice you'll have to share your specs (or what parts you plan to buy), what resolution and FPS you plan to use.

[Kriya Takagi]

Originally posted by Ottomic:

If you don't want to play on xbox 360 mode, you are going to need at least a 4070 super or better, and a CPU to match. Even with those specs, you are going to have to run it with framegen to even be able to smell 60 fps.

The problem is not that the game is very demanding, but that it looks like utter ♥♥♥♥ unless it's on "high" preset with the high res texture pack on. And I'm not being a graphics snob or anything here, take a whiff of how "medium" preset looks:

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3454601410

This is 100% reproduceable, and it's not considered to be a bug by the developers. This is how the "Medium" preset looks.

To make the game look anywhere half decent, you're going to have to run it on "high" textures with the HRTP. This already gives you an overhead of about 6 GB VRAM, base (at 2k resolution).

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3454671684

Then there's the lighting system. If you're not running ray tracing, the "lighting" will consist of puddles of tv static-like, low res, fuzzy particle effects.

https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3456026361

Anyone who tells you that the game "works" in a mid-to-cheap rig, this is what they mean. This is what they consider to be acceptable, graphics wise. Up to you if you consider it acceptable.

So, just with the textures and ray tracing you're already on a razor's edge if you want to keep 60 fps with a 3080 of above at 2k resolution (framegen on, supersampling on "performance", mind you). And that's before things get intense.

So yeah, unless you have what I would consider a quite beefy gaming PC, game's going to look like ass. You can make it work on a lower spec for sure, but it looks so aggressively bad that I would not recommend it for $20, nevermind $70.

i have a 4070 super ti and im hitting 60+ without framegen

[Soji]

not to play the game, but to get 60fps on anything above medium? Yea pretty much. My old 3070 could reach 60 but more often than not even on low settings it would hover around 40-50. If that is fine to you then yea, but personally this game on anything but the highest settings at +60fps is really ugly. It's actually pretty beautiful if you have the system to run the game on the highest settings but without it you'll see the smudgy, blurry mess people talk about all the time.

[L:D]

To play properly? Yes.
Either buy an new pc/pc parts or go play an better game. I assure you would have more fun with the latter.

[overmage]

To play with potato graphics at a high fps, no
To play without potato graphics at a low fps, no
To play without potato graphics at a high fps, yes

[Ottomic]

Originally posted by Kriya Takagi:

i have a 4070 super ti and im hitting 60+ without framegen

From what I've read even a 5080 can't reach 60 without FG so either you're playing on extremely low settings (and therefore your game looks like a ps3 launch title), or I've been lied to. I don't have either so I can't confirm.

[Soji]

Originally posted by Ottomic:

Originally posted by Kriya Takagi:

i have a 4070 super ti and im hitting 60+ without framegen

From what I've read even a 5080 can't reach 60 without FG so either you're playing on extremely low settings (and therefore your game looks like a ps3 launch title), or I've been lied to. I don't have either so I can't confirm.

Maybe at 4k it's not possible but if its 1440p it definitely is. I have a 9070xt which isn't as strong as a 5080 and it's possible to reach 70-80 on ultra without frame gen.