7800xt Fps drops

[Dante]

I'm running a 5700X with 32GB of RAM and an RX 7800 XT, but the game just doesn't perform the way it should. At 1080p, I'm getting huge frame drops—sometimes down to around 35 FPS. GPU usage is all over the place, and some CPU cores are hitting 85%. Whether FSR is on or off, set to Quality or even running at native resolution, it doesn't make much difference. Actually, it runs a bit better at native.

To make it at least somewhat playable, I had to bump it up to 4K with FSR set to Quality. It still doesn’t hit 60 FPS, but at least it's more stable, hovering between 35 and 50 FPS.

PS: A friend of mine with a 4070 gets a stable 60 FPS, using a 5600 and 32GB of DDR4 RAM.

[Kamijou Touma]

7800xt shall be around 60-75 fps with your spec in 1080p

[Dante]

Yeah, but it's not stable. With FSR or without it, it's still unstable—sometimes it's at 80 FPS, other times it drops to 38.

[Mone]

Running a 7800xt with a 7600x and saw a decent improvement, +10%, by switching to the latest optional AMD drivers, 25.3.2. currently getting avg 75 FPS. Might help.

[Dante]

Originally posted by Mone:

Running a 7800xt with a 7600x and saw a decent improvement, +10%, by switching to the latest optional AMD drivers, 25.3.2. currently getting avg 75 FPS. Might help.

I tried that, but it didn’t change anything.
The weird thing is, it only happens with this game.

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Dante:

Originally posted by Mone:

Running a 7800xt with a 7600x and saw a decent improvement, +10%, by switching to the latest optional AMD drivers, 25.3.2. currently getting avg 75 FPS. Might help.

I tried that, but it didn’t change anything.
The weird thing is, it only happens with this game.

With you adjusting the settings so much, did you make sure to delete the shader cache every time?

[del_bosque_dol]

Have you installed high resolution texture pack? It does seem affecting the performance since TU1, so that you need to make your choice between the performance and the graphics. I experienced similar fps drop drastically in some cases, but since I made an appropriate adjustment via Adrenaline as well as modifying in game graphic settings, now it seems not causing too much trouble.

[mccloud]

I also run 7800XT. It's just the way things are with this game.

1. The game is MASSIVELY CPU-bound, while your 5700X is pretty decent, 7000 and 9000 series or any X3D CPU are much faster in this game.
2. Game optimization is nill.
3. 7800XT, despite all its power is still chiplet based and those are prone to FPS dips, because of internal data trasfers. Games are supposed to program around that but in MH WIlds' case - hahaha. There is a reason AMD moved back to monolithic GPUs with the 9070XT.

That said, there are ways to make sure you get a little better performance :

1. Delete you cache files in the game's directory - there are several, might be 1-4. Anything with cache in its name. When you next start the game it will rebuild them and improve performance. After the last patch recently I went in and noticed nice <30FPS dips constantly, even some <25FPS slideshows. Rebuilding the cache fixed those. The game is supposed to force a cache rebuild after each update but fails miserably almost every time. So we have to do that ourselves....

2. Don't use the High Resolution Texture pack, it causes stutters, no matter what. Set the game textures to High and forget about it. High is pretty much 95% the same anyway.

3. Make sure your AMD chipset driver for your motherboard is updated. Find the correct one for your MB chipset - B550/b450/etc ? A lot of peeps forget those exist. Google it, it should be on AMD's site.
These are not just for show, they do improve performance a little bit. If you haven't installed it manually, Windows installes *some* version of it, but it is usually old - they just want your machine to work, they don't care how fast it is.

4. Check your BIOS for the FCLK speed, it should be exactly 1/2 of your RAM speed. If you are running 3200MHz RAM, set it to 1600, etc. Zen3 (such as you 5700X) needs this as it's internal data trasfer rates are tied to that. Zen4 and above have it decoupled so it's not that big of a deal anymore, but you can get as much as 10% more performance of your CPU that way.
While you are there, make sure you are using your RAM XMP/DOHCP profile - a lot people forget about enabling that. Running your RAM at 2133MHz will severely gimp your CPU.

Usually on 1080p (widescreen, so 2560x1080p), I never drop below 55-60 FPS. Average is 70-80FPS. You should be seeing much better performance that what you are getting. It's probably the shader cache (#1) but the other 3 point won't hurt to check. I play at 3440x1440p and getting anywhere from 50-70 FPS usually, some dips <50. That is native, no frame generation enabled.

[Dante]

Originally posted by mccloud:

I also run 7800XT. It's just the way things are with this game.

1. The game is MASSIVELY CPU-bound, while your 5700X is pretty decent, 7000 and 9000 series or any X3D CPU are much faster in this game.
2. Game optimization is nill.
3. 7800XT, despite all its power is still chiplet based and those are prone to FPS dips, because of internal data trasfers. Games are supposed to program around that but in MH WIlds' case - hahaha. There is a reason AMD moved back to monolithic GPUs with the 9070XT.

That said, there are ways to make sure you get a little better performance :

1. Delete you cache files in the game's directory - there are several, might be 1-4. Anything with cache in its name. When you next start the game it will rebuild them and improve performance. After the last patch recently I went in and noticed nice <30FPS dips constantly, even some <25FPS slideshows. Rebuilding the cache fixed those. The game is supposed to force a cache rebuild after each update but fails miserably almost every time. So we have to do that ourselves....

2. Don't use the High Resolution Texture pack, it causes stutters, no matter what. Set the game textures to High and forget about it. High is pretty much 95% the same anyway.

3. Make sure your AMD chipset driver for your motherboard is updated. Find the correct one for your MB chipset - B550/b450/etc ? A lot of peeps forget those exist. Google it, it should be on AMD's site.
These are not just for show, they do improve performance a little bit. If you haven't installed it manually, Windows installes *some* version of it, but it is usually old - they just want your machine to work, they don't care how fast it is.

4. Check your BIOS for the FCLK speed, it should be exactly 1/2 of your RAM speed. If you are running 3200MHz RAM, set it to 1600, etc. Zen3 (such as you 5700X) needs this as it's internal data trasfer rates are tied to that. Zen4 and above have it decoupled so it's not that big of a deal anymore, but you can get as much as 10% more performance of your CPU that way.
While you are there, make sure you are using your RAM XMP/DOHCP profile - a lot people forget about enabling that. Running your RAM at 2133MHz will severely gimp your CPU.

Usually on 1080p (widescreen, so 2560x1080p), I never drop below 55-60 FPS. Average is 70-80FPS. You should be seeing much better performance that what you are getting. It's probably the shader cache (#1) but the other 3 point won't hurt to check. I play at 3440x1440p and getting anywhere from 50-70 FPS usually, some dips <50. That is native, no frame generation enabled.

Thanks, I’ll give those tips a try.
But what’s really got me puzzled is my friend with the 4070 and a 5600 getting around 60–70 FPS.
He was having performance issues too, but things improved just with NVIDIA driver updates.
I haven’t seen it myself, but according to him, he’s now able to run the game at an average of 70 FPS on max settings, no Frame Generation, at 1080p.

[mccloud]

Originally posted by Dante:

Thanks, I’ll give those tips a try.
But what’s really got me puzzled is my friend with the 4070 and a 5600 getting around 60–70 FPS.
He was having performance issues too, but things improved just with NVIDIA driver updates.
I haven’t seen it myself, but according to him, he’s now able to run the game at an average of 70 FPS on max settings, no Frame Generation, at 1080p.

With a 4070, on max settings, he is either not 70fps stable or using at least DLSS to boost the performance. Ask him how many FPS does he have in the Forest during downpour or in the desert with a sandstorm. He might have accidentally "missed" those.
His drivers can only improve performance as the latest Nvidia ones were absolute trash. Anything is better than that. Good for him.

You should be getting similar performance and even slightly better with a 7800XT. It's probably the shader cache that is doing this.

[Mechanique]

I also have 7800XT and had 90+ fps when playing in 1080p, now I instead lock 1440p to 60 and have no drops below that.

So I'd say your CPU is simply not cutting it, you can install even the best GPU but it won't help unless you upgrade all hardware systematically

[mccloud]

Originally posted by Mechanique:

I also have 7800XT and had 90+ fps when playing in 1080p, now I instead lock 1440p to 60 and have no drops below that.

So I'd say your CPU is simply not cutting it, you can install even the best GPU but it won't help unless you upgrade all hardware systematically

5700X should be fine. Even if it is slower than newer CPU and X3D, it should not limit FPS to below 40. It is a plenty fast 8-core. Majority of gamers are chugging along on a 6-core or worse.

I would hope not, otherwise Wilds has even more serious performance issues than I imagined.

[SvegetaX]

He may have SAM enabled.
(Smart Access Memory).
Some 3000 series could do it if the Mobo was able to, but was mainly introduced with PS5 and Ryzen 5000 series +. Games do make use of this.

[kirito]

im running 7600x with 7900GRE graphic setting all very high/high with TAA around 80-70fps at 1080p except oilbasin region this map cause stutter mostly at area that has lot LAVA or OIL involved.

[j03ochid]

r7 5700x + rx 6700xt + 32gb ram getting 60+ fps medium-high setting on my 2k ultrawide monitor with fsr3 quality and framegen enabled. You have better GPU than mine, it should run better on 1080p. Consider to check your system.

ps : both cpu and gpu are undervolted, my rx 6700xt barely hit 100watt on full load

[Dante]

Originally posted by mccloud:

Originally posted by Dante:

Thanks, I’ll give those tips a try.
But what’s really got me puzzled is my friend with the 4070 and a 5600 getting around 60–70 FPS.
He was having performance issues too, but things improved just with NVIDIA driver updates.
I haven’t seen it myself, but according to him, he’s now able to run the game at an average of 70 FPS on max settings, no Frame Generation, at 1080p.

With a 4070, on max settings, he is either not 70fps stable or using at least DLSS to boost the performance. Ask him how many FPS does he have in the Forest during downpour or in the desert with a sandstorm. He might have accidentally "missed" those.
His drivers can only improve performance as the latest Nvidia ones were absolute trash. Anything is better than that. Good for him.

You should be getting similar performance and even slightly better with a 7800XT. It's probably the shader cache that is doing this.

So, he says he gets an average of 70 FPS in the forest, without Frame Generation, using DLAA.
At 1080p, I can’t get anywhere near that in the forest—nowhere close to stable either. Sometimes it hits 80, sometimes it drops to 38.
That’s at 2560x1080 or 1920x1080, and performance doesn’t seem to change much between the two.