Performance if that even means anything to Capcom anymore

[LucRative]

The performance is so bad that even the ones who crack videogames aren't even bothering. But hey! who cares, right Capcom? Long as people are buying crap and calling it candy, good business practices and basic decency go right out the window. Just like me never buying a Capcom game. Fooled me once with Dragons Dogma 2, fooled me twice with Monster Hunter wilds....

[Gaidax]

Автор сообщения: Syrekroth

oh he also doesnt understand the base bias that polling has based on the group polled. oh no he is lost. he is lost in the smart sauce of thinking that common sense doesnt exist.

I have added the following for clowns like you just after posting:


And by the way, before you try to gotcha me on this point. People who have issues are probably more likely to leave a negative review, compared to people who have everything fine leaving a positive review.

This however still does not make the percentage of people who experienced performance issues as low or the issue insignificant.

[Jason Eroge]

Автор сообщения: Gaidax

Автор сообщения: Jason Eroge

Using the reviews make it look even more for the minority thou....cause its like 60% positive with 100k reviews? lol so the 60% have no issue with the game huh which is weird because theres like 1m players and only 100k left reviews what happen to like the other 900k lol most people with issue will 100% leave negative review.

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And by the way, before you try to gotcha me on this point. People who have issues are probably more likely to leave a negative review, compared to people who have everything fine leaving a positive review.

This however still does not make the percentage of people who experienced performance issues as low or the issue insignificant.

Thats what i am saying like people who have issue should be leaving more negative reviews......but that dont seem to be the case? like i said before i expected it to be in the negative reviews.....during the 1st week. I am not trying to gaslight you or anything. I honestly though it was gona be worst than this.

[Gaidax]

Автор сообщения: Syrekroth

oh he also doesnt understand the base bias that polling has based on the group polled. oh no he is lost. he is lost in the smart sauce of thinking that common sense doesnt exist.

edit: "Just like you don't need to poll all the citizens to have a rough estimate of the upcoming election results" literally this last one they polled people. majority of polls said harris, purely due to where they polled people. votes happen? trump. popular AND electoral. literally just proved yourself wrong on polls themselves. you used the one example that just countered you in the most recent.

Again, even when polls miss the mark, they miss the mark by relatively low amount - in your example the error was in single digit percents.

As I said, when you run a poll, even a biased poll and it returns 60-40, no amount of jumping through the hoops will turn it into 90-10.

And even if it ends up being 75-25, that's already a 1/4 of all players experiencing performance or stability issues - that is A LOT.

[Lumen]

Автор сообщения: Gaidax

And even if it ends up being 75-25, that's already a 1/4 of all players experiencing performance or stability issues - that is A LOT.

Problem is a lot of people over estaminate their hardware.
Only because a pc made game has 120 fps 4k mean a console port with all settings on can pull 60 fps.
Depends a lot on the hardware and the game/engine.
Adding higher than on console settings is also a thing.
People don't like to use custom settings, that's also a problem.
Then the game will allways suggest Frame Generation, does not matter if you need it or not.

[Vethala]

Автор сообщения: Lumen

Автор сообщения: Gaidax

And even if it ends up being 75-25, that's already a 1/4 of all players experiencing performance or stability issues - that is A LOT.

Problem is a lot of people over estaminate their hardware.
Only because a pc made game has 120 fps 4k mean a console port with all settings on can pull 60 fps.
Depends a lot on the hardware and the game/engine.
Adding higher than on console settings is also a thing.
People don't like to use custom settings, that's also a problem.
Then the game will allways suggest Frame Generation, does not matter if you need it or not.

"Fools find no pleasure in understanding but delight in airing their own opinions."

[ᛈᚢᛒᚲᚱᚨᛚᚱ13]

Автор сообщения: Lumen

Автор сообщения: Gaidax

And even if it ends up being 75-25, that's already a 1/4 of all players experiencing performance or stability issues - that is A LOT.

Problem is a lot of people over estaminate their hardware.
Only because a pc made game has 120 fps 4k mean a console port with all settings on can pull 60 fps.
Depends a lot on the hardware and the game/engine.
Adding higher than on console settings is also a thing.
People don't like to use custom settings, that's also a problem.
Then the game will allways suggest Frame Generation, does not matter if you need it or not.

The problem is that it's not just about frame rates. As I said earlier, I have an extremely powerful rig that normally handles anything I throw at it without breaking a sweat, but this game sends my CPU temps crazy. Nothing else does that.

[Diomedes]

its honestly baffling.. Its not only the questionable performance but how horrifically the game looks in many areas.. Where the game looks washed out, many textures look like something from a 2005 game, and AA not properly working in which I see jaggies every where.. This is at 1440p, DLSS 4.0 set to quality.. And every setting at their highest including textures. IN game cut scenes with multiple characters at camp, looks down right bad, where they look all flat, grainy and have numerous jaggeds across them.

[Lumen]

Автор сообщения: ᛈᚢᛒᚲᚱᚨᛚᚱ13

The problem is that it's not just about frame rates. As I said earlier, I have an extremely powerful rig that normally handles anything I throw at it without breaking a sweat, but this game sends my CPU temps crazy. Nothing else does that.

My guess is they emulate some gfx function on the cpu which the ps4/5 has used by default. If that is so its a easy way (1x coding) instead of develloping it at least twice for a proper gpu function.
It's a wild guess but in World it felt already like that, here it's the same.
CPU hungry, bottlenecking far earliert than you are used to on other pc games.
Thing is, it's unlikely they change their engine in a major way.
Too much risk/reward unless you have reasons like additional titles or addons in the far future.

[ᛈᚢᛒᚲᚱᚨᛚᚱ13]

Автор сообщения: Lumen

Автор сообщения: ᛈᚢᛒᚲᚱᚨᛚᚱ13

The problem is that it's not just about frame rates. As I said earlier, I have an extremely powerful rig that normally handles anything I throw at it without breaking a sweat, but this game sends my CPU temps crazy. Nothing else does that.

My guess is they emulate some gfx function on the cpu which the ps4/5 has used by default. If that is so its a easy way (1x coding) instead of develloping it at least twice for a proper gpu function.
It's a wild guess but in World it felt already like that, here it's the same.
CPU hungry, bottlenecking far earliert than you are used to on other pc games.
Thing is, it's unlikely they change their engine in a major way.
Too much risk/reward unless you have reasons like additional titles or addons in the far future.

That's a good guess. It's weird because no other Capcom games do this (DD2, etc), but it's still the best explanation I've heard so far.

[Kiririn]

There is absolutely zero chance that this is accurate. At least try and make it believable.

Автор сообщения: Syrekroth

my pc is worse then yours by far, ryzen 7 3700x, 6600xt, 32gb of ram, i do have an nvme drive as well. im getting ~120 fps in 1080p on medium, fsr on quality. maybe stop trying to ♥♥♥♥ on your system with 4k graphics.

edit: btw zero stuttering.

[Kiririn]

They won't care to change anything until it hits them in the pocketbook.

Автор сообщения: LucRative

The performance is so bad that even the ones who crack videogames aren't even bothering. But hey! who cares, right Capcom? Long as people are buying crap and calling it candy, good business practices and basic decency go right out the window. Just like me never buying a Capcom game. Fooled me once with Dragons Dogma 2, fooled me twice with Monster Hunter wilds....

[Lumen]

Автор сообщения: ᛈᚢᛒᚲᚱᚨᛚᚱ13

That's a good guess. It's weird because no other Capcom games do this (DD2, etc), but it's still the best explanation I've heard so far.

Thank you. But it's still only a guess. Maybe someone with a debugger who doesen't care about bans, will find out but that still wouldn't fix it.

[Lemon]

anyone defending the performance is coping hard, Star citizen runs better than Wilds.

best thing atm I find for a stable fps at least is to turn of FG and limit fps to 60 you don't see wild drops like when its uncapped with FG and it won't turn you GPU into a jet engine.

[Lumen]

Автор сообщения: Lemon

anyone defending the performance is coping hard

It's not about defending it.
It's about turn your gfx settings down and have fun anyway.
I really feel for the people where it doesen't works for no real reason.
But biggest problem ist people want to play 4k.

[Prismatic Lollipop]

Автор сообщения: Lumen

Автор сообщения: Lemon

anyone defending the performance is coping hard

It's not about defending it.
It's about turn your gfx settings down and have fun anyway.
I really feel for the people where it doesen't works for no real reason.
But biggest problem ist people want to play 4k.

biggest problem is: game is 0% optimized.
the second biggest problem: many of you still don't get it.