Min Maxing artian weapon, is it really worth it ?

[Shelter]

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[Khergit Horse Archer]

no duh unless ur a spidrunner or utuber or something

[Varagonax]

Originally posted by Shelter:

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Depends on how you play.

Generally, a perfect artian is going to be your best weapon in terms of Raw, element damage or status.

There ARE some examples. The Lala Barina lance, for example, is a much better paralysis option. The G. Arkveld, Gore Magala, Uth Duna, and G. Fulgur HBG guns are all better than their artian contemporaries. I have heard support HH prefers a different monster craft, and the meta pick for gunlance was the G. Arkveld one. Now, for most builds the Zoh Shia weapons are better than all but the fastest and absolute perfect artian weapons due to its skill.

[Ext3h]

Yes, it's worth it. But the PREREQUISITE is that you have already the necessary Rarity 7 jewels (3+1 skills) for your build, so you can stack 4 maxed out skills on the weapon. If you don't have that, G. Doshaguma weapons and alike are a lot better.

[StarExile]

Tried it once and never used it again

[Discorvo]

no they are ugly. New zho shia weapons are way better now anyway

[Varagonax]

Originally posted by Discorvo:

no they are ugly. New zho shia weapons are way better now anyway

Not way better. The skill only averages a proc once every 6 seconds due to the internal cooldown of 3 seconds and a 33% trigger chance.

Slower weapons and builds that aren't damage optimised for whatever reason you want (comfort builds over speed running, essentially), Zoh weapons are better. Damage optimised builds generally want artian or other weapons.

[Ludwig]

For me not worth it, don't like min maxing in monster hunter, i have a habit to use whatever i like and look cool doing so

[アンジェル]

Originally posted by Shelter:

Min Maxing artian weapon, is it really worth it ?
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No

[Varagonax]

Originally posted by Ext3h:

Yes, it's worth it. But the PREREQUISITE is that you have already the necessary Rarity 7 jewels (3+1 skills) for your build, so you can stack 4 maxed out skills on the weapon. If you don't have that, G. Doshaguma weapons and alike are a lot better.

How many weapon skills that are viable on any one weapon are there that cap out at 3 levels tho

[⇜SOVEREIGN⇝]

Originally posted by Varagonax:

Originally posted by Discorvo:

no they are ugly. New zho shia weapons are way better now anyway

Not way better. The skill only averages a proc once every 6 seconds due to the internal cooldown of 3 seconds and a 33% trigger chance.

Slower weapons and builds that aren't damage optimised for whatever reason you want (comfort builds over speed running, essentially), Zoh weapons are better. Damage optimised builds generally want artian or other weapons.

The damage of the proc is also pretty low and isn't worthwhile for most weapons. Like on Bow the extra 50 damage extra 6 (average) seconds is such a non-factor it hurts. If the Zoh weapons had 5% extra affinity and a 3/3/1 slot layout then it would be worth talking about, but that isn't the case, sadly.

On one hand I do think it's good that the Zoh weapons aren't the be all end all best weapons because they're the newest, because I don't want a repeat of the World Meta cycle where the best ♥♥♥♥ was literally "whatever is newest". On the other, Artian weapons are genuinely super boring. Not just in aesthetic design, but in actual function. All Artian HBG and LBG have 2/2/2 for Normal/Pierce/Spread with no variation. Artian Bows all have the same coatings based off of element, it's genuinely pretty limiting because I personally don't like Close Range coating, but if I want to run a Fire Artian bow, it's what I'm going to be stuck with.

[Any Helpers]

Originally posted by Shelter:

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Eh? BIS crafted to BIS artian has a difference in DPS for most weapons (some exceptions), but to the average joe it doesn't matter. If you are curious on the math, monster hunter meta reddit probably has crunched the numbers.

Personally, its worth if you are into speedrunning midmaxing or you literally have nothing to do already. Otherwise most crafted will do you good.

[Foe]

Originally posted by Discorvo:

no they are ugly. New zho shia weapons are way better now anyway

no they are not.

[LazyPear]

Depends on if you want to min-max your dps or not. I don't really care that much about shaving 3-5 mins off my hunts. I prefer the looks of the crafted weapons more. I also don't use all the max damage turbo uber giga chad damage skills/builds. I like a good healthy mix of damage skills and utility/comfort skills for my builds. I find it more fun. I'm not a speed runner type of person so I don't care for Artian and min/maxing. So OP you need to ask yourself that question.

[Josh]

The Artian weapons are only "slightly" better, sort of, and it all depends on how OCD you want to get. I really thought there would be a major difference and more precise customization, but its all RNG and the specs are a wash. So you kill 30secs faster? Who cares? I'm not a PRO streamer who gives a crap. Its just the design, so if you like the gears steam punk, COOL, if you don't, use the Monster gear. NEED more REAL customization for those weapons, like various handle/blade designs & colors, so you can mix and match.

[MCNacho-ナチョ]

Originally posted by Shelter:

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no, meta for artian is, just to go on damage and 3 identical elements. the random effects are just a nice bonus but not neccesary.