I was on the ranked leaderboards... until

[FallenActual]

First night I was top 4000 on the doshogoma hunt, by morning not even on it because of the hundreds of sub 10 second runs... Fun, I'm glad the 1.94 trillion dollar company thought this competitive mechanic out right before implementing it without any anti cheat protection and also locking cosmetic rewards behind being in the top 10k lol. Guess I need to 'Get Gud' right

[Kashra Fall]

Won't matter to put an anti cheat, it doesn't stop people. Capcom might of did the leader boards to prompt people to cheat, makes banning the accounts easier. Heck, hire me, I'll do it for minimal/no pay in a heart beat. Removing people like that would make me smile.

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Won't matter to put an anti cheat, it doesn't stop people. Capcom might of did the leader boards to prompt people to cheat, makes banning the accounts easier. Heck, hire me, I'll do it for minimal/no pay in a heart beat. Removing people like that would make me smile.

yea but then they need to make a big ban list wall of shame or something an do HW bans... but they won't we wont hear sht like always if we are lucky it might be briefly mentioned in some off the wall interview that they banned thousands of player or something and nothing else also I worry the times wont be removed from the leader boards I mean they could delete all the 10 second ones now no question asked but they are still there it would take one employee an afternoon after lunch to do that and they arent...

[Kashra Fall]

Originally posted by FallenActual:

Originally posted by Kashra Fall:

Won't matter to put an anti cheat, it doesn't stop people. Capcom might of did the leader boards to prompt people to cheat, makes banning the accounts easier. Heck, hire me, I'll do it for minimal/no pay in a heart beat. Removing people like that would make me smile.

yea but then they need to make a big ban list wall of shame or something an do HW bans... but they won't we wont hear sht like always if we are lucky it might be briefly mentioned in some off the wall interview that they banned thousands of player or something and nothing else also I worry the times wont be removed from the leader boards I mean they could delete all the 10 second ones now no question asked but they are still there it would take one employee an afternoon after lunch to do that and they arent...

They won't do a wall of shame, no, but they said they were going to ban cheaters from the boards. We just don't know when they will do so (Was on their twitter.) Like I said, all it did was plaster a target on the people's backs.

[Kiririn]

Hardware bans don't benefit Capcom financially. Also, there are probably tons of people cheating in much more subtle ways that will never get caught.

The cheaters are here to stay, unfortunately.

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Kiririn:

Hardware bans don't benefit Capcom financially. Also, there are probably tons of people cheating in much more subtle ways that will never get caught.

The cheaters are here to stay, unfortunately.

Then they shouldn't lock rewards no matter how mundane behind anything competitive

[Kiririn]

I agree 100%.

There are tons of mods that give you a competitive edge on a leader-board, but there are also tons of mods that are harmless when it comes to competition. I have zero faith that Capcom will implement a system that could distinguish between them.

I also don't believe they will ban anyone that uses mods because they know the popularity of modding on PC. Every banned player is one that probably won't be sticking around to buy microtransactions and expansions.

Originally posted by FallenActual:

Originally posted by Kiririn:

Hardware bans don't benefit Capcom financially. Also, there are probably tons of people cheating in much more subtle ways that will never get caught.

The cheaters are here to stay, unfortunately.

Then they shouldn't lock rewards no matter how mundane behind anything competitive

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Kiririn:

I agree 100%.

There are tons of mods that give you a competitive edge on a leader-board, but there are also tons of mods that are harmless when it comes to competition. I have zero faith that Capcom will implement a system that could distinguish between them.

I also don't believe they will ban anyone that uses mods because they know the popularity of modding on PC. Every banned player is one that probably won't be sticking around to buy microtransactions and expansions.

Originally posted by FallenActual:

Then they shouldn't lock rewards no matter how mundane behind anything competitive

I guess we legit community is just fcked outa some rewards then

[Kashra Fall]

They aren't doing hardware bans. They are going online connectivity bans (It's in their EULA and has a custom message for it no less.) All it does is remove people being able to play online, they still have the game itself,

[Aoitenshi]

Cheaters play only to brag/ruin others' fun anyway. Taking away online play from them is the best solution for all parties.

[SandrocK]

you're in luck capcom actually will be putting/giving suspensions, restrictions and penalties on cheaters.

[Fleshly Delight]

I think the only way Capcom could possibly hope to stop at least most cheaters is by making the hunts have a required minimum time as well or it won't be counted.

I unironically think an automated system where someone getting multiple instances of "too early than minimum time" results in a ranking time ban is a good idea.

If Capcom bases this "minimum time" off of what the actual best players are capable of, then it shouldn't be an issue in knowing what the possible range of "earliest time" is.

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by SandrocK:

you're in luck capcom actually will be putting/giving suspensions, restrictions and penalties on cheaters.

so they say lets hope we see results and maybe just give everyone the dang 10k reward at this point its a wash hahaha

[Sera]

We know if Scoreboards are shared? (with consoles) could just stop adding PC users to the list. Let them earn medals and what not, legit or not.

Let console users have abit of fun... (if shared that is)

[Kiririn]

I honestly can't believe that Capcom couldn't even put in place a system that would automatically flag 0 second completion times.

That gives me very little faith in their ability to root out cheaters. If they can't do the bare minimum how are they going to catch the people that use damage multipliers to subtly alter their damage by a couple percent.

Originally posted by Fleshly Delight:

I think the only way Capcom could possibly hope to stop at least most cheaters is by making the hunts have a required minimum time as well or it won't be counted.

I unironically think an automated system where someone getting multiple instances of "too early than minimum time" results in a ranking time ban is a good idea.

If Capcom bases this "minimum time" off of what the actual best players are capable of, then it shouldn't be an issue in knowing what the possible range of "earliest time" is.

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Kiririn:

I honestly can't believe that Capcom couldn't even put in place a system that would automatically flag 0 second completion times.

That gives me very little faith in their ability to root out cheaters. If they can't do the bare minimum how are they going to catch the people that use damage multipliers to subtly alter their damage by a couple percent.

Originally posted by Fleshly Delight:

I think the only way Capcom could possibly hope to stop at least most cheaters is by making the hunts have a required minimum time as well or it won't be counted.

I unironically think an automated system where someone getting multiple instances of "too early than minimum time" results in a ranking time ban is a good idea.

If Capcom bases this "minimum time" off of what the actual best players are capable of, then it shouldn't be an issue in knowing what the possible range of "earliest time" is.

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