For AMD Users, you may need to downgrade drivers

[The Fish Puncher]

Wanted to post in case this helps others.
Setup
GPU: 6900xt
CPU: 5900x
RAM: 32 GB
Frame Gen and FSR: ON
VSYNC: OFF
HDR: ON
Using 4k display @ 120 HZ with VRR/Freesync

I was experiencing insane input lag. Menu's were freaking out, repeatedly deselecting options and were basically unusable. FPS was tanking by half at different intervals. I initially thought it was drivers so I updated to latest, 25.3.1.
No luck
Turned off every overlay I could think of, no luck.
I thought maybe it was a bad install, I deleted the drivers as a whole, and reinstalled frame scratch, no luck.
Tried a bunch of different things on the troubleshooting guide, steam input on and off, messing with frame gen and fsr settings, etc.

Eventually gave up and reverted back to 25.2.1 Optional drivers. Now it's solved. Why I have no idea, but the 25.3.1 drivers seem to be completely borked with this game and setup. If you're experiencing this, may try reverting to those optional drivers and see if it helps you as well.

[NeoX]

Do you have driver based/forced settings applied? I also have a RX6900XT in use with driver version 25.3.1 and it runs great without any noticeable input delay (Trustmaster SwapX controller- USB wired). Do you have "AMD chill" active in the driver in combination with FSR ingame? That is known to cause issues (in any game so far).

[Sheiriff Woody]

Just got my First AMD Graphics card RX7600XT, and i have no input lag. It runs fine for me. Thanks for the heads up though. When i was on Nivda i used a Version 2 updates ago, as soon as i Updated, i got lag, not alot but some. hopefully my 7600 will be good.

[Sinistar45]

Originally posted by Sheiriff Woody:

Just got my First AMD Graphics card RX7600XT, and i have no input lag. It runs fine for me. Thanks for the heads up though. When i was on Nivda i used a Version 2 updates ago, as soon as i Updated, i got lag, not alot but some. hopefully my 7600 will be good.

amd drivers are hit or miss, sometimes they are good, sometimes they are okay, but always factory reset when updating

[The Fish Puncher]

Originally posted by NeoX:

Do you have driver based/forced settings applied? I also have a RX6900XT in use with driver version 25.3.1 and it runs great without any noticeable input delay (Trustmaster SwapX controller- USB wired). Do you have "AMD chill" active in the driver in combination with FSR ingame? That is known to cause issues (in any game so far).

Nope, no chill on, AFMF or anything like that, still happened, I could find no other solution but downgrading. That was my first thought was that it was some additional features turned on messing with it. But even with all of them off it was happening. Although it wasn't 100% of the time, I had one instance where I was able to play for a bit and it didn't happen but every other time after it did.

Originally posted by Sinistar45:

Originally posted by Sheiriff Woody:

Just got my First AMD Graphics card RX7600XT, and i have no input lag. It runs fine for me. Thanks for the heads up though. When i was on Nivda i used a Version 2 updates ago, as soon as i Updated, i got lag, not alot but some. hopefully my 7600 will be good.

amd drivers are hit or miss, sometimes they are good, sometimes they are okay, but always factory reset when updating

I thought the factory reset would do it initially the first time, but didn't seem to as long as it was the 25.3.1 though. Unless I just got really unlucky for some reason.

Or it was something bad in the shader cache and changing versions to begin with redid it enough to fix it so it just seems like it was the downgrade? Could have been that too I guess. Seems weird though because redoing it on the same version didn't seem to do anything the first time. But then on this time it did.

[JaxomXMGR]

I confirm. A friend had similar issues with his 7900 XTX, when the game was feeling smooth as butter when he was under the 25.2.1 drivers. He rolled back and everything went back to normal.

[NeoX]

Originally posted by JaxomXMGR:

I confirm. A friend had similar issues with his 7900 XTX, when the game was feeling smooth as butter when he was under the 25.2.1 drivers. He rolled back and everything went back to normal.

Originally posted by The Fish Puncher:

Originally posted by NeoX:

Do you have driver based/forced settings applied? I also have a RX6900XT in use with driver version 25.3.1 and it runs great without any noticeable input delay (Trustmaster SwapX controller- USB wired). Do you have "AMD chill" active in the driver in combination with FSR ingame? That is known to cause issues (in any game so far).

Nope, no chill on, AFMF or anything like that, still happened, I could find no other solution but downgrading. That was my first thought was that it was some additional features turned on messing with it. But even with all of them off it was happening. Although it wasn't 100% of the time, I had one instance where I was able to play for a bit and it didn't happen but every other time after it did.

Originally posted by Sinistar45:

amd drivers are hit or miss, sometimes they are good, sometimes they are okay, but always factory reset when updating

I thought the factory reset would do it initially the first time, but didn't seem to as long as it was the 25.3.1 though. Unless I just got really unlucky for some reason.

Or it was something bad in the shader cache and changing versions to begin with redid it enough to fix it so it just seems like it was the downgrade? Could have been that too I guess. Seems weird though because redoing it on the same version didn't seem to do anything the first time. But then on this time it did.

I researched a little and i have a theory:

With the release of 25.3.1 there was also a new chipset driver release and even BIOS uodate for 600 and 800 chipset motherbaords. Could it be you did the GPU driver update but not the chipset one (and BIOS in case of availability) ?

Can you give it one more try but also with all other driver that are in connection with that version?

[Grr. [SG CMD] Majah Lazah]

Frame Gen and FSR: ON

[The Fish Puncher]

Originally posted by Grr. SG CMD Majah Lazah:

Frame Gen and FSR: ON

I'm not sure what you're trying to say exactly but the same issue was there with that on or off when I was on 25.3.1, but it works fine with it either on or off in 25.2.1

[The Fish Puncher]

Originally posted by NeoX:

Originally posted by JaxomXMGR:

I confirm. A friend had similar issues with his 7900 XTX, when the game was feeling smooth as butter when he was under the 25.2.1 drivers. He rolled back and everything went back to normal.

Originally posted by The Fish Puncher:

Nope, no chill on, AFMF or anything like that, still happened, I could find no other solution but downgrading. That was my first thought was that it was some additional features turned on messing with it. But even with all of them off it was happening. Although it wasn't 100% of the time, I had one instance where I was able to play for a bit and it didn't happen but every other time after it did.



I thought the factory reset would do it initially the first time, but didn't seem to as long as it was the 25.3.1 though. Unless I just got really unlucky for some reason.

Or it was something bad in the shader cache and changing versions to begin with redid it enough to fix it so it just seems like it was the downgrade? Could have been that too I guess. Seems weird though because redoing it on the same version didn't seem to do anything the first time. But then on this time it did.

I researched a little and i have a theory:

With the release of 25.3.1 there was also a new chipset driver release and even BIOS uodate for 600 and 800 chipset motherbaords. Could it be you did the GPU driver update but not the chipset one (and BIOS in case of availability) ?

Can you give it one more try but also with all other driver that are in connection with that version?

I don't think it's chipset drivers because I tried updating those to latest when I was on 25.3.1 as well but I definitely didn't try BIOS then. So.....maybe? I can't really test it right now but if I get the chance to I'll update.

[RotGoblin]

Can confirm, 25.3.1 on 7800XT is a buggy crashfest.

25.2.1 is much more stable.

[yuver]

Rx 7600 8gb / Ryzen 5 7600 / 32gb ram 6000. Only have problem crash random.

[DanZinagri]

7800xtx card, 9800X3D, up to date chipset, bios is at its most recent version. For some reason cannot play with 25.3.1, have to use 25.2.1.

I don't seem to be the only one with this issue, but man i can't seem to find any information on it.
Some people seem to be having 0 issues with this driver; which i assume is either a hardware difference, or something else, but best i can tell no one has got it down to a specific root cause.

[RotGoblin]

Originally posted by DanZinagri:

7800xtx card, 9800X3D, up to date chipset, bios is at its most recent version. For some reason cannot play with 25.3.1, have to use 25.2.1.

I don't seem to be the only one with this issue, but man i can't seem to find any information on it.
Some people seem to be having 0 issues with this driver; which i assume is either a hardware difference, or something else, but best i can tell no one has got it down to a specific root cause.

I can confirm 25.3.1 is absolutely broken on 7800XT

[MissFoxy]

Originally posted by RotGoblin:

Originally posted by DanZinagri:

7800xtx card, 9800X3D, up to date chipset, bios is at its most recent version. For some reason cannot play with 25.3.1, have to use 25.2.1.

I don't seem to be the only one with this issue, but man i can't seem to find any information on it.
Some people seem to be having 0 issues with this driver; which i assume is either a hardware difference, or something else, but best i can tell no one has got it down to a specific root cause.

I can confirm 25.3.1 is absolutely broken on 7800XT

25.3.2 works fine on my
Ryzen 7 7735hs