So... aquatic monsters.

[Null Winter]

Anyone else feel like the devs made a big mistake when designing the regions and deciding the first two introduced monsters should be (semi-)aquatic? Scarlet Forest is the only area with any meaningful amount of water; outside of monsoon season, it has a couple of creeks, one major river that circuits the map, and two lakeside areas large enough for combat. During Inclemency, a large portion of it does become flooded, but that only really matters for attacks that generate waves.

In the base game, Uth Duna is the only "aquatic" monster, and the only water it can engage with are the preset rivers for travel and the two lakeside areas for some of its special attacks and wave extensions; as the area apex, it can't show up anywhere else. Mizutsune is our first "new" monster, and it'll be pretty dependent on water for some of its mechanics but could feasibly show up in other areas without its full moveset and area transition options. Lagiacrus was the face of underwater combat, but that isn't returning so it'll likely end up in Uth Duna's situation where it can only be fought in Scarlet Forest to give it all its attack and movement options.

I hope you folks like dealing with waterblight (not that it does anything meaningful anyways) while farming in Scarlet Forest, because that's going to be the next two updates unless they drop some other monsters in alongside the headliners.

Maybe they can add a particularly large oasis or lake onto the end of the river in Windward Plains to open up a change of scenery for fighting water-dependent monsters? Or flood the Arena for them. I dunno, I just get tired of fighting the same critters in the same two places.

[Zerostrikesback]

Ill be disappointed if Bubble condition doesn't return.

[Nihrahk]

Mizutsune is more than just waterblight. There's bubbleblight too, so you'd have to deal with the place turning into a slip and slide. Oh, and he also got some soulseer moves, so there's fireblight to deal with as well.

Lagiacrus is mostly thunderblight. I believe it's only gonna do waterblight if underwater? Might also get some Ivory or Abyssal moves for all we know to spice things up a bit.

[Knavenformed]

So what's the point here really?
Monster diversity outside designated zones? Outside of World the monsters have tended to just patrol a couple or three areas per map, and even in World monsters like Paolumu/Legiana/Odogaron/Radobaan/Lavasioth/Jyuradotus/Diablos/Dodogama/Nergigante were pretty confined to their "rooms"

At least we get the leviathans first since the frost area in Wilds is a worse horrible tunnel run

[Null Winter]

Originally posted by Knavenformed:

So what's the point here really?

2 points explained for you, since reading is difficult.

1: The map design means that monsters dependent on some environmental aspect are very limited in where they can appear and have their full suite of abilities; something as simple as a large lake in another region would have really opened up options for the dev team.

2: The headliners meant to raise hype are both (primarily) aquatic associated monsters, back to back. Even if they do have new movesets to account for most of the game being wholly landlocked, you can bet the devs are going to lock them to the Scarlet Forest. Misutzune is explicitly confirmed to have its unlock quest tied to the fish-obsessed freak in the base camp there and all footage shows it being fought there. Lag is so large that it can only really feasibly be fought the lake areas of Scarlet Forest, Windward Plains, and some of the lava-filled "rooms" of Oilsilt Basin; take a guess at which one it'll be based in. You get 3 tries.

[Nihrahk]

Originally posted by Knavenformed:

So what's the point here really?
Monster diversity outside designated zones? Outside of World the monsters have tended to just patrol a couple or three areas per map, and even in World monsters like Paolumu/Legiana/Odogaron/Radobaan/Lavasioth/Jyuradotus/Diablos/Dodogama/Nergigante were pretty confined to their "rooms"

At least we get the leviathans first since the frost area in Wilds is a worse horrible tunnel run

Yeah, the frost area ain't that great. Still hoping for them to add Gigginox for that locale though.... Maybe Monoblos for the desert. Just to give it some love rather than sticking to Diablos... or maybe make Monoblos a guardian and have Diablos chill in the desert eating cacti until we decide to bonk him on the head...

[Palkinator89]

Tell me you don't know anything about Lagiacrus without saying you don't know anything about Lagiacrus.

[Null Winter]

Originally posted by Palkinator89:

Tell me you don't know anything about Lagiacrus without saying you don't know anything about Lagiacrus.

It's bigger than Uth Duna in terms of length. It has moves exclusive to underwater combat that they had to re-tool when it made another appearance in the next generation, breaking its own canon and biological mechanics just to make up for removed mechanics. It likes to vomit lightning, somehow not shocking itself while underwater.

[Zerostrikesback]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

Originally posted by Palkinator89:

Tell me you don't know anything about Lagiacrus without saying you don't know anything about Lagiacrus.

It's bigger than Uth Duna in terms of length. It has moves exclusive to underwater combat that they had to re-tool when it made another appearance in the next generation, breaking its own canon and biological mechanics just to make up for removed mechanics. It likes to vomit lightning, somehow not shocking itself while underwater.

Like most aquatic life that produces electrical currents underwater, it probably is shocking itself.

[Null Winter]

Originally posted by Zerostrikesback:

Like most aquatic life that produces electrical currents underwater, it probably is shocking itself.

And is protected by some unknown mechanism, as my post said. :P

[Zerostrikesback]

Originally posted by Null Winter:

Originally posted by Zerostrikesback:

Like most aquatic life that produces electrical currents underwater, it probably is shocking itself.

And is protected by some unknown mechanism, as my post said. :P

Sure Jan.

[Frostea]

Originally posted by Palkinator89:

Tell me you don't know anything about Lagiacrus without saying you don't know anything about Lagiacrus.

Over half of his fight in his debut game is underwater. Quite frankly I don’t see why he’s coming back at all when they won’t bring back underwater combat either.

[Capybarasan]

Scarlet Forest isn't the problem. It's the most beautiful looking area in the game and honestly in any game.

The real problem are Iceshard Cliffs and Ruins of Wyveria. These two zones are too alike in how "maze-like" they area. They both look dull, boring, almost monotone in colour, just nothing interesting about them whatsoever. That's 2 areas wasted on, quite frankly, crap looking maps. They could've easily added an area that looks like Suja with perhaps a large river and lake running through it.

[Cutthroat Cutwire]

i don't really mind, the scarlet forest is my favorite area visually and mizu and lagi are both monsters i really like. spending more time there with big ol' leviathans don't bother me

[RedViper]

Lol what of mizustsune’s attacks are dependent on water? Because he made his debut in MHGenerations, a game that had NO underwater combat.

And what do you mean that Lagiacrus will be like uth duna and only fought in the forest? You expected to fight it in the desert, the ice cliffs? And you know that Lagiacrus also inflicts thunder blight right? And Mizustsune has bubble blight… or whatever is called.

Damn these underwater combat lovers really say the craziest things.

[Louis Cypher]

So we are now pointign out every absurd detaiul and bash the game?
With guys like the op Capcom would never had completed any project.