Fishing is so bad

[FyonnKalnonn]

Why did they make the whopper fishing so awful?

There's like three fish it applies to, and catching all of them is a huge pain in the ass. They implemented a tension-based fishing mini-game, made the controls weird, and then didn't even give us a UI to monitor tension or get any feedback at all. The controls tutorial appears to lie to you, insisting that you abuse your controller by mashing your analog stick up and down instead of rotating it. It's not clear the range at which whoppers will react to lure or why they react to lure, and the only places they show up are the absolute most massive bodies of water in the game, so you can't even reasonably cast line and wait. I can't even imagine how much worse it must be if you don't have the Ranger skill on your armor.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they spent their dev time on literally anything other than improving the world's most half-assed fishing. And I've played the ♥♥♥♥ out of mid-tier fishing minigames in stuff like the original Nier and Final Fantasy 15. But I would have preferred that they just left it as the classical Monster Hunter fishing.

[Mrrshan68]

If you use the ranger deco the line tension increases dramatically.
Also while you can twirl your joystick around the only inputs that matter are up and down. a circle will include both of these but its much faster to just mash them directly than do circles.
I agree about the controller abuse, always makes me wince when i hear the joystick banging on the plastic.
Also agree that the fish should react better to the bait, i think sometimes a fish will just be bugged so if it doesnt go for the bait after like 5 attempts just give up and reset.

I find that alot of the time due to perspective i need to aim behind the fish, if i aim directly at it my lure lands short and its too far for the fish to notice it.

[A Good Joe]

Originally posted by FyonnKalnonn:

Why did they make the whopper fishing so awful?

There's like three fish it applies to

I've found five, you should fish more.

[Toffe]

Worst of all is that you can't get that turbo crab ingredient. Guess there's always Whetfish, but wouldn't mind more reasons to fish.

[Orange Brutus]

My favorite part is the Seikret who 100% of the time stands directly in front of the camera to make things more difficult. I've lost so many because I literally couldn't see.

[StarExile]

No, you bad

[Weitsicht]

fishing is the only good thing in this game :)

was harder to get the speartuna ls than any other weapon xD

[RobeRonin]

yer the fishing mini game sucks balls their is literally 2 dolla phone fishing games with better mechanics but its ok the lead developers spent lots of time making sure they made fishing fun lolololol

[Anime]

Nah ur just bad at fishing

[Operatix]

I also hated fishing, but then I got gut, now it's okey. It's good that you don't rly need it. The analog stick only needs up and down, that wasn't a lie. It took me like 45min to catch one Gajau, worst time I had in this game, but then I understood how and I got like 6 more Gajau in like 4-8 mins and a massiv squid which made me rly happy.

[RobeRonin]

Originally posted by Operatix:

I also hated fishing, but then I got gut, now it's okey. It's good that you don't rly need it. The analog stick only needs up and down, that wasn't a lie. It took me like 45min to catch one Gajau, worst time I had in this game, but then I understood how and I got like 6 more Gajau in like 4-8 mins and a massiv squid which made me rly happy.

it sucks and the lack of information feedback and promts is near retarded lol their is 2 dolla phone games with better fishing! and im guessing you had to watch a youtube video explaining how to do it hahah!

[sugmaballs]

Originally posted by FyonnKalnonn:

Why did they make the whopper fishing so awful?

There's like three fish it applies to, and catching all of them is a huge pain in the ass. They implemented a tension-based fishing mini-game, made the controls weird, and then didn't even give us a UI to monitor tension or get any feedback at all. The controls tutorial appears to lie to you, insisting that you abuse your controller by mashing your analog stick up and down instead of rotating it. It's not clear the range at which whoppers will react to lure or why they react to lure, and the only places they show up are the absolute most massive bodies of water in the game, so you can't even reasonably cast line and wait. I can't even imagine how much worse it must be if you don't have the Ranger skill on your armor.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they spent their dev time on literally anything other than improving the world's most half-assed fishing. And I've played the ♥♥♥♥ out of mid-tier fishing minigames in stuff like the original Nier and Final Fantasy 15. But I would have preferred that they just left it as the classical Monster Hunter fishing.

its the only part of the game that requires a little bit of skill where you don't have your overpowered cat or mount to save your worthless ass. Its either you get it or you don't

[RobeRonin]

Originally posted by sugmaballs:

Originally posted by FyonnKalnonn:

Why did they make the whopper fishing so awful?

There's like three fish it applies to, and catching all of them is a huge pain in the ass. They implemented a tension-based fishing mini-game, made the controls weird, and then didn't even give us a UI to monitor tension or get any feedback at all. The controls tutorial appears to lie to you, insisting that you abuse your controller by mashing your analog stick up and down instead of rotating it. It's not clear the range at which whoppers will react to lure or why they react to lure, and the only places they show up are the absolute most massive bodies of water in the game, so you can't even reasonably cast line and wait. I can't even imagine how much worse it must be if you don't have the Ranger skill on your armor.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they spent their dev time on literally anything other than improving the world's most half-assed fishing. And I've played the ♥♥♥♥ out of mid-tier fishing minigames in stuff like the original Nier and Final Fantasy 15. But I would have preferred that they just left it as the classical Monster Hunter fishing.

its the only part of the game that requires a little bit of skill where you don't have your overpowered cat or mount to save your worthless ass. Its either you get it or you don't

on this i agree and literally laughed out loud many times saying wow fishing is so much harder then killing 30 foot tall monsters lol!

but its still poorly made the lack of information and feedback as you do certain things in the mini game just suck ass and tbh once you work out what you are meant to do its super easy just not fun!

[HunterXCooL]

Its fine on every account except the mashing up and down button lol... its stupid and will destroy your controller fast

[sugmaballs]

Originally posted by RobeRonin:

Originally posted by sugmaballs:

its the only part of the game that requires a little bit of skill where you don't have your overpowered cat or mount to save your worthless ass. Its either you get it or you don't

on this i agree and literally laughed out loud many times saying wow fishing is so much harder then killing 30 foot tall monsters lol!

but its still poorly made the lack of information and feedback as you do certain things in the mini game just suck ass and tbh once you work out what you are meant to do its super easy just not fun!

I said the same thing when i first started fishing whoppers for the achievements and side quests. Why is this mini game harder than fighting the monsters in a monster hunting game? But yes, the one thing i hated the most was the point of view you had to use when fishing. They put the camera right behind you when you are going to throw your line out. I guess it is "realistic" but i would undershoot it then have to redo it constantly to get them to bite. Also, without ranger, your line will break if you mess up once or twice. Speartunas love to jump so you have to understand the jumping direction/slam down mechanic or else you are never getting that GS.

[Chaos]

Originally posted by sugmaballs:

Originally posted by FyonnKalnonn:

Why did they make the whopper fishing so awful?

There's like three fish it applies to, and catching all of them is a huge pain in the ass. They implemented a tension-based fishing mini-game, made the controls weird, and then didn't even give us a UI to monitor tension or get any feedback at all. The controls tutorial appears to lie to you, insisting that you abuse your controller by mashing your analog stick up and down instead of rotating it. It's not clear the range at which whoppers will react to lure or why they react to lure, and the only places they show up are the absolute most massive bodies of water in the game, so you can't even reasonably cast line and wait. I can't even imagine how much worse it must be if you don't have the Ranger skill on your armor.

Don't get me wrong, I'm glad they spent their dev time on literally anything other than improving the world's most half-assed fishing. And I've played the ♥♥♥♥ out of mid-tier fishing minigames in stuff like the original Nier and Final Fantasy 15. But I would have preferred that they just left it as the classical Monster Hunter fishing.

its the only part of the game that requires a little bit of skill where you don't have your overpowered cat or mount to save your worthless ass. Its either you get it or you don't

Bro, it doesn't require skill, it just straight up barely functions. Like other people said, there is literally no feedback to inform you of the tension level, and the camera issues and surface reflections make it borderline impossible to actually see the fish or where it's going. The fish are borderline brain dead and will straight up ignore the correct lure even when it is directly in front of them, certain fish like Gajau are just straight up actually impossible to catch because you have to keep them away from obstacles but the only way to do that si pull the line in the opposite direction of their movement since they always make a beeline to the nearest rock and all that does is break the line from tension. The fish jumping is almost impossible to deal with because the camera is so bad and you're given so little time to try and gauge what direction they are jumping that your only chance of getting it right is sheer dumb luck. And then there is of course the ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT GAME DESIGN of making the button to cut the line (space) in a place that is incredibly easy to accidentally hit while hitting the buttons you need to spam TO REEL IN THE FISH! It's half-baked... no, that's giving it too much credit, I wouldn't even say it's quarter-baked, it's eighth-baked. Why the changed the perfectly functional fishing system from world is beyond me.