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Lit Mar 23 @ 10:12am
Ryzen 5700X Performing terrible 30-40 FPS with a 3080ti at minimum
https://imgur.com/i4SRHEi

Specs:

GPU: MSI Ventus 3X RTX 3080 Ti 12GB

CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X

RAM: 1x16GB 3200MHz (running at 2666MHz)

PSU: Corsair 750W 80+ Bronze

Motherboard: ASRock X370M-HDV R4.0

I'm getting terrible performance in games. For example, using the in-game benchmark, I only get around 48 FPS average at 720p, all settings on minimum, with DLSS set to Ultra Performance. Clearly, something's wrong — and it seems to be CPU-related.

The CPU usage shows around 72% in MSI Afterburner, and 90-100% in Windows Task Manager, while the CPU stays at 4.6GHz constantly.

Regarding the RAM: I used to run 8GB + 16GB 3200MHz with a Ryzen 5 3600. After upgrading to the 5700X, the PC shuts down if I run the RAM above 2666MHz. It also shuts down if I try to use both sticks, even at 1833MHz. So right now, I'm only running a single 16GB stick at 2666MHz.

I'm not sure what's going on, but I've seen benchmarks with this CPU performing way better. Any help or insights would be appreciated.
Last edited by Lit; Mar 23 @ 10:50am
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Originally posted by Lit:
Regarding the RAM: I used to run 8GB + 16GB 3200MHz with a Ryzen 5 3600. After upgrading to the 7700X, the PC shuts down if I run the RAM above 2666MHz. It also shuts down if I try to use both sticks, even at 1833MHz. So right now, I'm only running a single 16GB stick at 2666MHz.

r u populating the ram slots correctly? it should be in abab format, not aabb if you understand me.

also are you sure its 2666mhz? ddr5 jdec starts at 4800mhz not 2666 or w/e ur using, i hope the program ur using to check is cpu-z cuz that reads half the data rate so it would be 5400mhz

am5 should be able to handle 6000mhz x 2 sticks without much issue, do a bios update if u havent yet
Last edited by Khergit Horse Archer; Mar 23 @ 10:18am
Originally posted by Lit:
Ryzen 7700X Performing terrible 30-40 FPS with a 3080ti at minimum
https://imgur.com/i4SRHEi

Specs:

GPU: MSI Ventus 3X RTX 3080 Ti 12GB

CPU: Ryzen 7 7700X

RAM: 1x16GB 3200MHz (running at 2666MHz)

PSU: Corsair 750W 80+ Bronze

Motherboard: ASRock X370M-HDV R4.0

I'm getting terrible performance in games. For example, using the in-game benchmark, I only get around 48 FPS average at 720p, all settings on minimum, with DLSS set to Ultra Performance. Clearly, something's wrong — and it seems to be CPU-related.

The CPU usage shows around 72% in MSI Afterburner, and 90-100% in Windows Task Manager, while the CPU stays at 4.6GHz constantly.

Regarding the RAM: I used to run 8GB + 16GB 3200MHz with a Ryzen 5 3600. After upgrading to the 7700X, the PC shuts down if I run the RAM above 2666MHz. It also shuts down if I try to use both sticks, even at 1833MHz. So right now, I'm only running a single 16GB stick at 2666MHz.

I'm not sure what's going on, but I've seen benchmarks with this CPU performing way better. Any help or insights would be appreciated.

Hardware issue. If you having troubles using RAM like that, then you shiould start considering replacing the motherboard.
Illumina Mar 23 @ 10:46am 
Originally posted by Khergit Horse Archer:
r u populating the ram slots correctly? it should be in abab format, not aabb if you understand me.

Doesn't populating ram as A A sometimes have compatibility problems?

As for OP, something is very wrong with your PC; either you've done something wrong or somethings broken.
Last edited by Illumina; Mar 23 @ 10:49am
Originally posted by Illumina:
Originally posted by Khergit Horse Archer:
r u populating the ram slots correctly? it should be in abab format, not aabb if you understand me.

Doesn't populating ram as A A sometimes have compatibility problems?
as far as i understand it should still boot and run but it will be single channel, just lower performance but shouldnt cause crashes. also im not sure if its abab or baba, but i think both ways should work but consult ur mobo manual if ur not sure.
Last edited by Khergit Horse Archer; Mar 23 @ 10:50am
Zatick Mar 23 @ 11:05am 
That motherboard has an AM4 socket, matching your old Ryzen 5 3600.

The Ryzen 7 7700X is an AM5 socket CPU.

What's going on there?
oh yeah i see ur running mixed ram 8 + 16 gb that can work but it will run in flex mode

u want two identical sticks for dual channel performance. also yes if ur mixing ram, it is pretty much a dice roll on whether it works or not, even if it does, u will not be able to run at xmp/expo speeds. it will run at the lowest of the sticks, i.e one stick is 2400mhz and the other is 2800mhz, then it will run at 2400mhz on both.
Last edited by Khergit Horse Archer; Mar 23 @ 11:09am
Zatick Mar 23 @ 11:13am 
Oh, I see in the screenshot it's actually a Ryzen 7 5700X processor, rather than a 7700X.

Try using the 572.16 drivers, rather than the 572.83 drivers. nvidia's latest drivers have been garbage.

That board only has 2 RAM slots and you can populate either slot (according to the manual). But what you can't do is mix single rank and dual rank memory, each module must be ranked the same.

The max memory speed is determined by the architecture of the CPU.
Bongoboy Mar 23 @ 11:17am 
Originally posted by Lit:
https://imgur.com/i4SRHEi

Specs:

GPU: MSI Ventus 3X RTX 3080 Ti 12GB

CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X

RAM: 1x16GB 3200MHz (running at 2666MHz)

PSU: Corsair 750W 80+ Bronze

Motherboard: ASRock X370M-HDV R4.0

I'm getting terrible performance in games. For example, using the in-game benchmark, I only get around 48 FPS average at 720p, all settings on minimum, with DLSS set to Ultra Performance. Clearly, something's wrong — and it seems to be CPU-related.

The CPU usage shows around 72% in MSI Afterburner, and 90-100% in Windows Task Manager, while the CPU stays at 4.6GHz constantly.

Regarding the RAM: I used to run 8GB + 16GB 3200MHz with a Ryzen 5 3600. After upgrading to the 5700X, the PC shuts down if I run the RAM above 2666MHz. It also shuts down if I try to use both sticks, even at 1833MHz. So right now, I'm only running a single 16GB stick at 2666MHz.

I'm not sure what's going on, but I've seen benchmarks with this CPU performing way better. Any help or insights would be appreciated.
First, I have a i7 11700k in here, which as UserBenchmarks is around 5% the similar performance as your Ryzen 7 5700x, I have a normal 3080 in here, not a Ti one with 32 ram.
I got in that benchmark on high settings, which was the way it set it to around 25000 points.
I think the reason why you get 16636 points is because you are running to little ram for the game.

Regarding ram, you said that:
Originally posted by Lit:
https://imgur.com/i4SRHEi
Regarding the RAM: I used to run 8GB + 16GB 3200MHz with a Ryzen 5 3600. After upgrading to the 5700X, the PC shuts down if I run the RAM above 2666MHz. It also shuts down if I try to use both sticks, even at 1833MHz. So right now, I'm only running a single 16GB stick at 2666MHz.
Does that mean you used a single 8 gb stick and a single 16 gb stick? Don't those come in "sets" most of the time? What MHz are those sticks running normally? Did you overclock them?
You should check your manual if that CPU with those sticks on those MHz settings are supposed to run.

It is possible that one stick broke, even after running fine for quite some time. I had a set of 2x8 gb that I bought, I ran them for a good 6 months no issue. Suddenly I had BSODs out of the blue and was wondering that happened. After running Ram checks for a good 2 weeks, with both chips, only one and only the other, I nailed it down to one chip having an error. The error would not show up immediately, but it could show up in the boot process, running the PC idle for 5 minutes or after playing for 6 hours.
I sent the chips in and got new ones, they ran fine never had issues with them.

So it could be your Main Board. But it could also be your Ram. The only way to find out is to get new ram to test, if the new Ram works it was the Ram. If you still have issues its the main board.
Bongoboy Mar 23 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by Zatick:
That motherboard has an AM4 socket, matching your old Ryzen 5 3600.

The Ryzen 7 7700X is an AM5 socket CPU.

What's going on there?
In the benchmark picture hes using a Ryzen 7 5700x not a Ryzen 7 7700x. The Ryzen 7 5700x is a socket AM4 cpu.
The ASRock X370M-HDV R4.0 does support AM4 socket cpus.

Unless I overlooked something, that cpu should run on that mainboard.
Illumina Mar 23 @ 11:26am 
please just go buy two matching 16GB DDR4 3200 sticks. They even sell them both in the same package.
Zatick Mar 23 @ 11:28am 
Originally posted by Bongoboy:
In the benchmark picture hes using a Ryzen 7 5700x not a Ryzen 7 7700x. The Ryzen 7 5700x is a socket AM4 cpu.
The ASRock X370M-HDV R4.0 does support AM4 socket cpus.

Unless I overlooked something, that cpu should run on that mainboard.

Yeah, the original post has been updated, it originally said it was a Ryzen 7 7700x in all 3 places.
Zatick Mar 23 @ 11:38am 
Originally posted by Illumina:
please just go buy two matching 16GB DDR4 3200 sticks. They even sell them both in the same package.

More RAM is a good idea, but the recommended system specs do only require 16GB.

I'd start by downgrading the video driver before spending money. When the benchmark was released I was on an old driver, got like 14fps on a 3080. Updated to 572.16, which was latest when benchmark was released, performance went up to above 60fps.

Wilds released and a driver released along side it, upgraded and fps drop to low teens again. Downgrade to 572.16, fps jumped back up. There are tons of threads around here with people saying not to use the latest drivers, so just try that.
Lyote Mar 23 @ 11:43am 
Originally posted by Lit:
https://imgur.com/i4SRHEi

Specs:

GPU: MSI Ventus 3X RTX 3080 Ti 12GB

CPU: Ryzen 7 5700X

RAM: 1x16GB 3200MHz (running at 2666MHz)

PSU: Corsair 750W 80+ Bronze

Motherboard: ASRock X370M-HDV R4.0

I'm getting terrible performance in games. For example, using the in-game benchmark, I only get around 48 FPS average at 720p, all settings on minimum, with DLSS set to Ultra Performance. Clearly, something's wrong — and it seems to be CPU-related.

The CPU usage shows around 72% in MSI Afterburner, and 90-100% in Windows Task Manager, while the CPU stays at 4.6GHz constantly.

Regarding the RAM: I used to run 8GB + 16GB 3200MHz with a Ryzen 5 3600. After upgrading to the 5700X, the PC shuts down if I run the RAM above 2666MHz. It also shuts down if I try to use both sticks, even at 1833MHz. So right now, I'm only running a single 16GB stick at 2666MHz.

I'm not sure what's going on, but I've seen benchmarks with this CPU performing way better. Any help or insights would be appreciated.

Interestingly, my previous PC with an i9 10850k + 4070ti managed about similar to yours.

Settings never changed anything either, 1080p or 4k didn't matter, it would always hover around 50.

If I was going to point at anything that might be holding the system back, it'd be your RAM.
Single slot 16gb stick and on the slow end at that isn't going to help much.
Not that upgrading to a dual channel 32gb would magically solve all problems, it would at least help a little.

Game has some performance issues in general, so do bear that in mind.
The full game does run a little better than the benchmark, at least in my experience.
You will need frame generation to hit 60 with your hardware though. A sad reality with the game currently.

Also, try FSR. I had better performance with that than DLSS.
Bongoboy Mar 23 @ 1:16pm 
Originally posted by Zatick:
Originally posted by Bongoboy:
In the benchmark picture hes using a Ryzen 7 5700x not a Ryzen 7 7700x. The Ryzen 7 5700x is a socket AM4 cpu.
The ASRock X370M-HDV R4.0 does support AM4 socket cpus.

Unless I overlooked something, that cpu should run on that mainboard.

Yeah, the original post has been updated, it originally said it was a Ryzen 7 7700x in all 3 places.
Oh, I only seen the updated post. Sorry!
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