Artian weapons: Worth it?

[Keeva]

I've heard that they're the "new meta" or whatever, but considering the effort you put in to them (buying then spending loads of ores), they don't come out much better than regular top tier weapons, and a lot of the time worse. For example, I made the tier 8 long sword and rolled it once with all 5 upgrades and I had (from memory):

+30 element
+5 attack
+5 attack
+5 attack
Sharpness

That was on top of the base of 70 element and 190 damage (pushing element to 100 and attack to 205). Now compared to the lala barina weapon tier 8 it was about the same damage and about 150 less element.

What am I missing? Is that it? At BEST roll, I can add 25 damage or 150 element but this takes farming for hours for ONE WEAPON hoping for a good roll. Then do it again for every element? Something is off there, or I'm missing something. Think I'll be sticking to regular weapons

(above figures are all with attack value compensation turned off btw)

[Aldroen]

Publicado originalmente por Holyna, The High Seraph:

Does not understand how steam works, ignoring the materials used.

I'd say the troll is you.

beign willfully ignorant, got it. and indeed, as i am no longer wasting anymore time with you, like i said, when you actually understand what's going on, come back. or don,t i won't care by then.

as i said, they aren't worth wasting the materials. i wish you revealed you don't know what you're talking about eariler so i didn't waste anytime with a troll.

good day.

WHAT MATERIAL ????

You have different weapon parts Devices,Blades, Tubes , Discs etc that you use for aritisan weapons. I assume that you call those materials so please say either yes or no. There is no reason absolutely no reason to keep them as their only use is to create aritisian weapons. Those hold no value whatsoever if they sit in your inventory so use them to create what you want once you have the ones you need and upgrade it.

And ore is fully refunded if you dont want that weapon anymore so no point of holding on to it.

These are the only two things involved in artisian weapons the first holds no value and the second you get all of it back if you want.

Once again your point is does not make any sense and its a bad advice. Of course if you dont want to engage in that system that is perfectly fine and as many people said the gains are minimal, but at the same time there is no reason not to engage in it.

[Dagný]

Publicado originalmente por Aldroen:

Publicado originalmente por Holyna, The High Seraph:

Play the game and come back, or you're just being willfully ignorant.

You are the one who does not even own on it steam..... so for all I know you are just a troll.

You're correct. Holyna is a massive troll who just like to argue. Don't waste your time.

[Aldroen]

Publicado originalmente por Dagný:

You're correct. Holyna is a massive troll who just like to argue. Don't waste your time.

Yeah, some people have no idea how to have a discussion and explain their point.

Obvious troll and wont bother with them anymore.

[Torus]

There is guy on YT calculated this ♥♥♥♥. Artian weapons are 2.8% better with god rolls. I'am on PS5 and my Artian 3 Atk 2 Ele Bonus is worse than my Gore GS. It have to be 4Atk and 1Affi Bonus to be better than Gore.

[Prototypε]

I think their main appeal is the 3 3-slots they're offering, allowing for more flexibility what you want to run for weapon skills. got some for that reason alone and didnt even bother with rolls, the moment i found something with 3 atk and 1 sharpness i took it, good enough imo. i dont care about clear times enough to bother beyond that.

[The Debauchery]

Publicado originalmente por Parmak:

When really the game has 100s of hours of interesting side content to explore and experience.

It has about 80 hours max at the moment.

[midori]

Publicado originalmente por Aoitenshi:

I already got my perfect artian blast long sword, but I'm maining the Lala Barina sword because I care more about fashion than numbers.

Exactly, you get it.
We all know we hunters dress for fashion first, and the numbers are just a nice bonus.

[Bono my tyres are gone]

Publicado originalmente por Parmak:

Artian weapons are generally pretty ass and people are just drooling over them for no reason. The actual monster weapons are where it's at 90% of the time since they come with skills built into them for free, often several deco slots worth of skills too while Artian doesn't.

Artian weapons are basically the "jingling keys" of this game for people who think endgame is just getting the best gear with the highest number. When really the game has 100s of hours of interesting side content to explore and experience.

ah yes the mega skills on monster weapons like.... punishing draw 3 at the mere cost of -15% affinity, what a bargain wow, or both focus and load shells on a charge blade, but not the full skill just one point short on both of them, truly amazing

[TuskSpin]

There are multiple videos and spreadsheets proving why artian weapons are better, and even then all you have to do is watch speedrunners to figure out what's meta. Right now the meta is paralysis with 3 attack parts, 4 attack rolls, and one sharpness roll. Not only are relic parts easy to farm, but the upgrade system is so unbelievably easy to cheese that getting a near god roll takes hardly any time or effort. There are a few weapons where Artian is just plain bad (hunting horn and gunlance come to mind), but simpler weapons like LS or GS are simply better with artian

[clemons75]

Artian weapons broke the most important rule; they need to be REALLY powerful if they look like crap. I'm not going to touch one until layered weapons are a thing.

[Xaelon]

The main thing that's nice about artian weapons is that they're flexable. Between the different parts and having 3 max level deco slots you can pretty much make whatever you want.

Statwise they're similar to crafted weapons unless you roll some crazy reinforcement bonuses.

if you're struggling to find a crafted weapon that has the right skills AND your preferred element/status, that's when you should consider making an artian weapon.

There are also a few cases where there is no crafted option. For example if you want a blast charge blade you'll have to make an artian weapon. There are no Gravios or Ajarakan charge blades.

[苍]

Personally, I don't really like then, the only thing nice about them is the 3 tier 3 slots, the amount of grinding required to get a weapon with the rolls you want is crazy, not really worth it either.

[MAXsandwich]

This is a moot discussion. !. They CAN be better in most cases... and 2. They will probably power creep a third roll unlock at some point.

[Sono]

not necessary. It might save you 30 seconds on a hunt at most. If you're all about min maxing then sure, go for farming the best roll. But I just made a few and stopped there and happy enough with the rolls I got. Most of them are pretty ugly so i usually dont like using them.

Not a good idea to put all your eggs in the Artian basket because they'll be obsoleted by TU raid weapons (at least, I ASSUME theyre going to do a HR raid monster) and of course the MR/Grank expansion anyway.

[Sanquin]

For insect glaive: Eh, I like them but they're nothing special. Not nearly what I'd expect from a supposed "engame weapon to farm for".

For hunting horn (my main weapon): They suck. Terrible note sets, terrible buff types for the most part, and terrible special attack with offset melody. I might consider them if there was more variety in the buffs they could give, and if I could get them with resounding melody or melody of life instead of offset melody. However even their damage is lacklutre, as the G.Rathalos one I'm currently using does more damage.