The lack of end game grind is painful

[FallenActual]

So I went through the entire story to the final missions in HR without fainting once and I took my time to do all the optional hunts/quests as the came up, so when I got to 'endgame' all I had to do was farm Arkveld 5 ish times to get BIS full armor and a perfect 3x weapon damage artian weapon. Which just took me right at 40 hours from beginning to end. The lack of any real meaningful 'endgame' grind or content for that matter is painful.

edit: We could have at least gotten daily/weekly community goals for cosmetics or something which is better than what we have now. The true problem with this game I think is its gotten so easy and fast to kill monsters on top of the loot drops being so high we aren't spending our time hunting monsters multiple times to get the gear we need to face off against challenging monster and progress. Instead we fight a monster for 5 minutes, kill/capture and move on and we never really have to stop to upgrade.

[McFuzz]

tier 8 artian weapon fragments spawn on 6 monsters. Which isn't many, but it's more than just arkveld. But yes 40 hours of content lines up with my experience as well, I might play it a bit more to get some more artian weapons, but I've done every optional and there really isn't anything left to do.

Game gives you all this endgame weaponry and nothing to do with it lol

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by McFuzz:

Game gives you all this endgame weaponry and nothing to do with it lol

I 100% agree, I got my weapon and armor and since I did all the side content as it appeared I have nothing left to do they could have atleast given us daily/weekly hunts or hunt monster X times as a community for some cool cosmetics and that being so simple and not engaging is still more than we have now haha

[😎Astran😾]

I've spent about 100 hours in vanilla MHWorld getting to the end-game but I'm not sure it was good/better considering I've spent ten hours wiping on Nergigante alone In any case there is a lot of content updates ahead and I have a metric ton of excellent games to spend time anyway

[zero]

whats the actual difference between fighting the 5 monster in this game that have good rewards vs fighting the 5 in world that had good rewards?

the end game of both is just grinding, thats monster hunter

[DUCKIN AROUND]

Originally posted by McFuzz:

tier 8 artian weapon fragments spawn on 6 monsters. Which isn't many, but it's more than just arkveld. But yes 40 hours of content lines up with my experience as well, I might play it a bit more to get some more artian weapons, but I've done every optional and there really isn't anything left to do.

Game gives you all this endgame weaponry and nothing to do with it lol

Hey yeah hello so judging by past content updates in like 25 MH games (or even just World, if we're using the new standard for MH as an example) the reason they give you all that endgame weaponry is because they're going to add more things. There's generally a lot of monsters and hunts added post-release, World was getting stuff for a long time even before iceborne came out.

And hey there's also the inevitable expansion to look forward to! Iceborne really changed up world for the better and brought a whole host of monsters to hunt along with the guiding lands to expand your time spent in the game. Sunbreak did a lot of similar things.

I'm guessing you're new to the franchise so welcome! MH gets pretty cozy and bloated once all the extra content starts rolling out but at least we don't have to buy Tri Frontier Ultimate Generations edition anymore, just a single expansion to add on content rather than having to re-buy a whole ass game.

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by 😎𝔸𝕤𝕥𝕣𝕒𝕟😾:

I've spent about 100 hours in vanilla MHWorld getting to the end-game but I'm not sure it was good/better considering I've spent ten hours wiping on Nergigante alone :lunar2019madpig: In any case there is a lot of content updates ahead and I have a metric ton of excellent games to spend time anyway :lunar2019piginablanket:

yea i can see how that's debatable if wiping that much is 'good/better' sadly for me theres not alot of games out atm that im the target audience for, I was kind of hoping MH wilds was gonna take up more time than it did haha

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by zero:

whats the actual difference between fighting the 5 monster in this game that have good rewards vs fighting the 5 in world that had good rewards?

the end game of both is just grinding, thats monster hunter

I think the problem is there was alot more grinding to do to in MH World as drops were rarer and monsters were sometimes actually a challange so you have make sure your gear was up to par, now monsters are easy therefore you really don't have to upgrade much and if you do drops are so generous it doesn't take more than 3 hunts max. So we get to end game real quick and then theres nothing to do.

[Killance]

Has about the same as world. Have you done all the side quests? Killed every monster? Capture every monster? Every optional quest? Every investigation?

It has content, but why are people shocked that a game called MONSTER HUNTER is all about HUNTING MONSTERS over and over?

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by zero:

whats the actual difference between fighting the 5 monster in this game that have good rewards vs fighting the 5 in world that had good rewards?

the end game of both is just grinding, thats monster hunter

The guns in World weren't gimped to high hell, I suppose is my reasoning here lol. I don't know why they ruined the bowguns, when World and Rise made them more viable than they've ever been. Then Wilds was like, we'll make them more appropachable, and then removed recoil, destroying spread and ruining my entire life lol.

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by DUCKIN AROUND:

Originally posted by McFuzz:

tier 8 artian weapon fragments spawn on 6 monsters. Which isn't many, but it's more than just arkveld. But yes 40 hours of content lines up with my experience as well, I might play it a bit more to get some more artian weapons, but I've done every optional and there really isn't anything left to do.

Game gives you all this endgame weaponry and nothing to do with it lol

Hey yeah hello so judging by past content updates in like 25 MH games (or even just World, if we're using the new standard for MH as an example) the reason they give you all that endgame weaponry is because they're going to add more things. There's generally a lot of monsters and hunts added post-release, World was getting stuff for a long time even before iceborne came out.

And hey there's also the inevitable expansion to look forward to! Iceborne really changed up world for the better and brought a whole host of monsters to hunt along with the guiding lands to expand your time spent in the game. Sunbreak did a lot of similar things.

I'm guessing you're new to the franchise so welcome! MH gets pretty cozy and bloated once all the extra content starts rolling out but at least we don't have to buy Tri Frontier Ultimate Generations edition anymore, just a single expansion to add on content rather than having to re-buy a whole ass game.

just chiming in here though this wasn't a direct reply to me but it would have been nice if there was just something to do daily or weekly for simple cosmetics or something in the mean time it also doesn't help their 'roadmap' is so vague/barren

[McFuzz]

Originally posted by DUCKIN AROUND:

Originally posted by McFuzz:

tier 8 artian weapon fragments spawn on 6 monsters. Which isn't many, but it's more than just arkveld. But yes 40 hours of content lines up with my experience as well, I might play it a bit more to get some more artian weapons, but I've done every optional and there really isn't anything left to do.

Game gives you all this endgame weaponry and nothing to do with it lol

Hey yeah hello so judging by past content updates in like 25 MH games (or even just World, if we're using the new standard for MH as an example) the reason they give you all that endgame weaponry is because they're going to add more things. There's generally a lot of monsters and hunts added post-release, World was getting stuff for a long time even before iceborne came out.

And hey there's also the inevitable expansion to look forward to! Iceborne really changed up world for the better and brought a whole host of monsters to hunt along with the guiding lands to expand your time spent in the game. Sunbreak did a lot of similar things.

I'm guessing you're new to the franchise so welcome! MH gets pretty cozy and bloated once all the extra content starts rolling out but at least we don't have to buy Tri Frontier Ultimate Generations edition anymore, just a single expansion to add on content rather than having to re-buy a whole ass game.

DLC for games isn't real and never has been. If it's not in base it's not in the videogame, Also hi looks like you're new to Monster Hunter so welcome :) Keep content coping, Wilds has less base than world and rise did and there's no amount of cope that'll change that. Enjoy your 0 elder dragons :))))

[FallenActual]

Originally posted by Killance:

Has about the same as world. Have you done all the side quests? Killed every monster? Capture every monster? Every optional quest? Every investigation?

It has content, but why are people shocked that a game called MONSTER HUNTER is all about HUNTING MONSTERS over and over?

yes I made sure to do All NPC side quests and I went though all my optional quests and they are all check marked as done including the dumb ones like hunt 8x of these small animals

[Efreet]

Originally posted by 😎𝔸𝕤𝕥𝕣𝕒𝕟😾:

I've spent about 100 hours in vanilla MHWorld getting to the end-game but I'm not sure it was good/better considering I've spent ten hours wiping on Nergigante alone In any case there is a lot of content updates ahead and I have a metric ton of excellent games to spend time anyway

I mean... i have around the same time on my main world save and most of it was actually spent doing the events that were released during the first year so the game lenght seems fine ?
It seems to me OP is completely unaware normal people don't grind a game for 1k hours
best part is looking at his reviews; he complains about endgame on every game he plays even if it lasted over 500 hours...

[Terminal Desolation]

Assuming you really did get a perfect set of rank 8 Artian parts already (highly unlikely but possible) you still likely need good decos. Deco farming and optimizing your loadout for for skills has always been more of the real end game than any equipment crafting ever was.

[DUCKIN AROUND]

Originally posted by FallenActual:

just chiming in here though this wasn't a direct reply to me but it would have been nice if there was just something to do daily or weekly for simple cosmetics or something in the mean time it also doesn't help their 'roadmap' is so vague/barren

Yeah it's kind of par for the course for capcom. Strong suspicion for years that capcom simply does not believe in PC gaming and some execs have been actively pushing to make it fail so they can re-focus their entire efforts on console, in straight denial of the numbers their PC releases have generated. LOTS of executive meddling goes on in the "upper crust" of japanese development studios like Nintendo, Capcom, Sega, etc.

They don't really like to release roadmaps because then they'd have to actually follow them even if Mr. 87 year old Ijjisaki-San decides he wants to yank the plug on content 1 day from release because his bowel movement made him slightly irritable that morning.

You can expect a steady rotation of event quests that give you those cosmetics you mentioned, though. Maybe they'll be better about announcing it before hand this time, who knows.