Thoughts on this vs Rise/Sunbreak so far?

[Ghostface]

Obviously Rise/Sunbreak has more content than Wilds right now, but quality wise, which would you guys say is of higher quality, or more enjoyable to you so far? Currently playing through Rise/Sunbreak rn, and played up to 2hrs of Wilds so far, but keeping it at 2hrs for now in case I decide to refund due to performance crap lol.

Thanks for any responses :)

[Wingnut Mcmoomoo]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von McFuzz:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wingnut Mcmoomoo:

So wait... you don't think FU, 3U, 4U, and GU are real content... that is the wildest monster hunter take I've ever heard (those games are what sunbreak and iceborn were since we used to have the buy the entire games twice instead of main game and dlc)

They are whole games and not DLC for existing games 😎
I've made my terrible take and I'm sticking with it lol

no they aren't whole games... literally they aren't... they are games where they slapped a dlc onto then resold at full price. so according to you every single version that has a G rank isn't real which is crazy

[Ghostface]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nyxtus:

People here despise Sunbreak (I'm a fan of Sunbreak despite its flaws) but what I can tell you in Sunbreak has infinitely better build variety and weapon balance.

Wilds also gave half the weapons iFrames and Counters so I don't buy that argument. Wilds is doing a lot of what was bad with Sunbreak all over again but nobody is complaining about it like they did with Sunbreak.

I’m actually curious, why did people dislike Sunbreak? A lot of the YouTube reviews I watched or reviews I read kept talking about how Sunbreak might be one of the best Master Rank expansions of all time. Then I look on Steam and it has “Mixed” reviews, which confuses me.

Keep in mind I’ve only ever really played through World base game all the way, and dabbled in Iceborne a little, but never finished it or got to endgame, in truth I don’t even know what Monster Hunter Endgame consists of.

[Roon72]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von zeroRiver_1st:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Roon72:

I do not have this game yet. My PC needs a bit of an upgrade to run it on the lowest settings apparently. From what I have been reading it looks like NOT buying it on launch is actually the smart thing to do. I guess I will wait until after the big update in April.

giving two extra Monsters and a gathering hub is not what I would consider a "big update"

Well, I consider a Big Update something that smooths out all your Launch Day Bugs and beef up the difficulty of the monsters, which is what the April Patch is supposed to be doing.

[Housetek]

Worlds > Rise > wilds for me.
This game has no challenge and you can ignore 90% of the mechanics for crafting. If you wanna really maximize a build you can, its there.... but do you have to? no, you can just make a Artisan 6 weapon and have some rarity 6-7 armor and beat everything in this game no problem.

[Varaziel]

so far i enjoyed rise much more than wilds, also the characters werent so incredibly annoying in rise

[Ghostface]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Roon72:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von zeroRiver_1st:

giving two extra Monsters and a gathering hub is not what I would consider a "big update"

Well, I consider a Big Update something that smooths out all your Launch Day Bugs and beef up the difficulty of the monsters, which is what the April Patch is supposed to be doing.

They’re going to up the difficulty? If that’s the case that’s a huge complaint I’ve been seeing repeated numerous times solved right there.

Honestly I can put up with shoddy performance to a certain extent, but if the game is a cakewalk I just lose interest SUPER fast.

[Deathbit]

Sunbreak was really good... also World and Wilds are not the mainline entry. Why they could not get multiplayer right.

This game has made me appreciate Sunbreak a whole lot more.

[NeutroDevice]

To me Wilds is more fun gameplay-wise, but that's because of the updated weapons, in all other aspects Wilds is quite bland, even in the music aspect, somehow. I don't remember a single theme that has captured me, even the "grill meat song" was made bland and I have no idea when to time it right for a well-done steak.

[Roon72]

I can't play World. I hate what they did to Alatreon. Used to love hunting Alatreon, I hate it in World. That cursed Escaton Judgement and the fact you can't switch elemental weapons to match the element weakness. I'm sorry but I cannot play Dark Souls level difficulty games. I DO NOT enjoy it. That and no melee function for the Bow. You know, that move where you can swipe at the monster like a melee weapon in a swinging motion. Now Rise/Sunbreak I DO enjoy.

[McFuzz]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wingnut Mcmoomoo:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von McFuzz:

They are whole games and not DLC for existing games 😎
I've made my terrible take and I'm sticking with it lol

no they aren't whole games... literally they aren't... they are games where they slapped a dlc onto then resold at full price. so according to you every single version that has a G rank isn't real which is crazy

Yeah but you can go to the shop and buy Tri ultimate without buying Tri, same goes for 4U and 4 😎

Can't buy sunbreak at the shop without Rise. DLC's not even real lol

[Roon72]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von McFuzz:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Wingnut Mcmoomoo:

no they aren't whole games... literally they aren't... they are games where they slapped a dlc onto then resold at full price. so according to you every single version that has a G rank isn't real which is crazy

Yeah but you can go to the shop and buy Tri ultimate without buying Tri, same goes for 4U and 4 😎

Can't buy sunbreak at the shop without Rise. DLC's not even real lol

Same thing goes for Monster Hunter World and Iceborne. This isn't new.

[NukaSpaceBreak]

Rise is super fun. I actually like it more than world because it feels more like a Monster Hunter game to me. For those who state it's not one of the "main line" games, Rise felt closer to MHFU than World ever did. Only issue I had with Rise was farming for end game in sunbreak, but overall it's fun and quite challenging in the later hunts

[Nyxtus]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Ghostface:

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Nyxtus:

People here despise Sunbreak (I'm a fan of Sunbreak despite its flaws) but what I can tell you in Sunbreak has infinitely better build variety and weapon balance.

Wilds also gave half the weapons iFrames and Counters so I don't buy that argument. Wilds is doing a lot of what was bad with Sunbreak all over again but nobody is complaining about it like they did with Sunbreak.

I’m actually curious, why did people dislike Sunbreak? A lot of the YouTube reviews I watched or reviews I read kept talking about how Sunbreak might be one of the best Master Rank expansions of all time. Then I look on Steam and it has “Mixed” reviews, which confuses me.

Keep in mind I’ve only ever really played through World base game all the way, and dabbled in Iceborne a little, but never finished it or got to endgame, in truth I don’t even know what Monster Hunter Endgame consists of.

I'm going to sound reductive on some of this but I promise some of the reasoning is really, really mundane.

The genuine dislike comes from how the game launched. It was seriously unfinished, lacking content, and made some of the same mistakes as Wilds with the rampage weapons. Speaking of rampages, they're horrible. Apexes... exist, there was, and is, zero reason to fight them. They don't have unique gear. The story wasn't finished and had to be added in title updates. The base game was pretty horrible.

Sunbreak fixed everything. Sunbreak legitimately took what was one of the worst monster hunter games and made it, to me, the best.

I think a lot of people had their opinions formed during the vanilla game, and that's fair. I also genuinely think there's a circle-jerk against the game because it's cool to hate on it, and the game kind of looks like ♥♥♥♥ visually. Going from world which is gorgeous and has such gravity and a living ecosystem to Rise which, to be honest, has a pretty dead and boring ecosystem also helped them frame their opinions on the game.

It's a fast-paced, much more arcadey monster hunter with less focus on immersion and world building and more focus on build variety, weapon variety, fights and difficulty (when you get to the endgame, it's really easy until that point). A lot of people who claim it's so easy you don't even need to try didn't bother to get to the endgame of Sunbreak and based their opinions on early G-Rank, which is easy if you use the tools they give you in the form of silkbinds and switch skills / wirebug recovery.

[MajinSoul]

I like Rise (both base Rise and Sunbreak) a lot more tbh.

[ikko]

Monster Hunter Series has always been all about what comes after 'G Rank' arrives.