They really gave Longsword a "do 500 damage" button

[Wren]

Talking about the R2 finish at the end of Healmbreaker.

What were they even thinking with this? They saw how people basically broke the game with LS in World, and decided to break it even more?

Wild choice

[fynx]

Първоначално публикувано от Talos:

Someone skipped Sunbreak lol. Longsword is a fair bit worse in this game than it was in SB.

And it was below average in SB.

[Wren]

Първоначално публикувано от SolviteSekai:

I dead ass reinstalled MHGU on my switch

♥♥♥♥ capcom they can have 15 dollars when wildbreak goes on sale.

I'm playing Frontier lol

Wilds doesn't even have tonfas? weak ass game

[Talos]

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Първоначално публикувано от Talos:

Someone skipped Sunbreak lol. Longsword is a fair bit worse in this game than it was in SB.

And it was below average in SB.

No other weapon in the game has an instant counter that takes 0 setup like LS has. The special sheathe finisher is a 5k damage combo that you can fire off every 30 seconds, but guess what, THATS NOT EVEN THE STRONGEST PLAYSTYLE. Harvest moon gives Lai slash and Helmsplitter ADDITIONAL HITS. Longsword is hilariously good in sunbreak man what are you smoking.

Should also note, you get super armor that can only be interrupted with a pin while you are using the special sheathe finisher. The game encourages you to hop right up into the squishiest hitzone you can find and unleash hell with 0 consequence for your actions.

[Komarimaru]

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Sorry, not using longsword. Ahem... You've not been using Focus Mode at all?

You're mocking LS being easy, it's been easy forever. Yet, don't know how to use Focus Mode? That's what's funny.

Again. Why would me not knowing the extremely specific use case of "doing a 180° mid-combo with the GS using focus mode" give you the impression I have never used it

Because it's not specific. It aims EVERY melee weapon, every single possible combo, Gunlance, Greatsword, Lance, Switch Axe, Charge Blade.

Every single weapon was made easy just due to Focus alone.

[Wren]

Първоначално публикувано от KingOfFriedChicken:

Първоначално публикувано от Wren:

that's. not how you play GL lmao

Y+B, Smash, Burst Shell is the base combo for GL

sweep + Y to wyvernspike or whatever it's called is another

and the new burst combo I can't remember off the top of my head that uses both shells and the spike

If you're just spamming B over and over just play dual blades. you'll get significantly higher DPS

Of course it isn't but I have a weapon that has 50 damage no matter how I fire it 🤣 so if I wanted to break the game I can just spamm B and I will output rapid 50 damage numbers. I just play normal cuz I like the new combo with explosives built in so I prefer not to cheese lol

pressing B over and over isn't "cheese"

Words mean things

"cheese" isn't "button mashing" it's "doing something unintended by the devs to make the game easier"

shelling is intended. therefore it isn't cheese. it's also ♥♥♥♥ DPS to just spam shell

[:bestgamerchina#1最好的中國]

Първоначално публикувано от Wingnut Mcmoomoo:

so you know even hunting horn has a very spammable 300 damage button they can literally fire on rotation if they want and that is easier to hit, and hammer has the second biggest hit in the game... every weapon got some crazy tools because the fights are going to be more crazy.

Rise showed us this lol

u nub he talks about finisher about helmbreak u noob, u press R/backmous or RT and u do aimbot damage to monster and recover 1 bar of charge u so nub cannot even into how nub u are u nub

[Wren]

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Again. Why would me not knowing the extremely specific use case of "doing a 180° mid-combo with the GS using focus mode" give you the impression I have never used it

Because it's not specific. It aims EVERY melee weapon, every single possible combo, Gunlance, Greatsword, Lance, Switch Axe, Charge Blade.

Every single weapon was made easy just due to Focus alone.

good to know. I just won't use it except to break wounds out of respect for myself, then

[HoneyDrake]

Първоначално публикувано от Wingnut Mcmoomoo:

EVERY monster hunter is easy. Even the first one can be made easy.

Yes, but this locks me out of weapon choices. I am not interested in picking up any LS at all, because it becomes a joke of a game.
I should be allowed to enjoy the game to a reasonable degree when I pick a weapon.
I don't care about ranged weapons, because of their nature being the way they are, and at the end of the day they should be allowed to solo content, too, but no melee weapon should be a "do this simple combo and spam those finishers 24/7 and ignore core game mechanics". That's not "gaming" in any form.

Right now I am looking at MH getting some of the best updates and upgrades, as a game. Hitboxes, telegraphing moves, etc. improved by a decent chunk compared to previous installments.
But they have also given players more and more tools to become godly.

Seriously: if we go back to MH2/3 regarding player mechanics, but have all the other game improvements, the game would actually be better than it is right now. Less dynamic? Sure, but it will feel like a more traditional MH title by miles.

[Wren]

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Първоначално публикувано от Wingnut Mcmoomoo:

so you know even hunting horn has a very spammable 300 damage button they can literally fire on rotation if they want and that is easier to hit, and hammer has the second biggest hit in the game... every weapon got some crazy tools because the fights are going to be more crazy.

Rise showed us this lol

u nub he talks about finisher about helmbreak u noob, u press R/backmous or RT and u do aimbot damage to monster and recover 1 bar of charge u so nub cannot even into how nub u are u nub

who's this lost, screeching toddler

I know you're agreeing with me but it's making me feel like I'm wrong by association just due to how you type

[Komarimaru]

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Because it's not specific. It aims EVERY melee weapon, every single possible combo, Gunlance, Greatsword, Lance, Switch Axe, Charge Blade.

Every single weapon was made easy just due to Focus alone.

good to know. I just won't use it except to break wounds out of respect for myself, then

Ya, let's not use a game design feature as intended, bravo.

Makes me wonder what you consider a skill based weapon, since never knew about focus at all. Though, you're not far into the game it seems, so won't matter you won't get much farther.

[SolviteSekai]

Първоначално публикувано от Talos:

Someone skipped Sunbreak lol. Longsword is a fair bit worse in this game than it was in SB.

No it absolutely is not lmfap

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Първоначално публикувано от Wren:

Първоначално публикувано от KingOfFriedChicken:

Of course it isn't but I have a weapon that has 50 damage no matter how I fire it 🤣 so if I wanted to break the game I can just spamm B and I will output rapid 50 damage numbers. I just play normal cuz I like the new combo with explosives built in so I prefer not to cheese lol

pressing B over and over isn't "cheese"

Words mean things

"cheese" isn't "button mashing" it's "doing something unintended by the devs to make the game easier"

shelling is intended. therefore it isn't cheese. it's also ♥♥♥♥ DPS to just spam shell

I doubt rapidly shelling out 100 damage is highly intended. But regardless I consider it cheese a day boring do I don't do it with that specific weapon lol

[Wren]

Първоначално публикувано от Komarimaru:

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good to know. I just won't use it except to break wounds out of respect for myself, then

Ya, let's not use a game design feature as intended, bravo.

Makes me wonder what you consider a skill based weapon, since never knew about focus at all. Though, you're not far into the game it seems, so won't matter you won't get much farther.

a skill based weapon is to turn the game off and play SMW kaizo or something

I'm not looking for skill-based, I'm looking for brain-off fun. LS as it is now is more like an autoclicker

[Wild]

Which is funny because once people start doing speedruns and comparing times, longsword are always middle of the pack or lower.

[Wren]

Първоначално публикувано от KingOfFriedChicken:

Първоначално публикувано от Wren:

pressing B over and over isn't "cheese"

Words mean things

"cheese" isn't "button mashing" it's "doing something unintended by the devs to make the game easier"

shelling is intended. therefore it isn't cheese. it's also ♥♥♥♥ DPS to just spam shell

I doubt rapidly shelling out 100 damage is highly intended. But regardless I consider it cheese a day boring do I don't do it with that specific weapon lol

you really think the base B button action of the weapon isn't intended by devs.

jfc my IQ isn't low enough for this hellscape of a forum