Insect Glaive feels horrible

[ADarkRaccoon]

Hello~!
I'm an Insect Glaive since MHW, MHWI and then I moved into MHXX and I loved it in those 3 games~!
I was wondering... Is it just me or does the IG in Wilds feel... Terribly slow and boring to play?

Is the gameplay loop getting all the juices then doing the "Greatsword Finisher" then doing it again and again since the other moves are slow?

[Scipo0419]

It feels amazing to me, personally, but mileage may vary.

Just tested it (both combos in focus mode + Bone Glaive 2) : Strong Descending Slash into Strong Rising Spiral did ~170 Damage.

Strong Rising Slash + Tornado Slash + Strong Rising Slash + Tornado Slash (looped it once because it was about the same time to execute) did ~270 damage

Based on this, the Strong Descending Slash into Rising Spiral is a good finisher, but your bread and butter should still be the Tornado Slash loop

[ParadeOfFools]

Walking speed without white buff feels atrocious and feels bad with it. The built in muscle memory for slight movement and max ranging my poke feels bad atm. The weapon was my main and everything about it feels off. The whole charging aspect feels awful too, but that could change with more playtime. I feel slow and sluggish.

[Iggi]

You need to learn to abuse the piercing Kinsect: Harvest Extract move that sends your little insect through the whole Monster, and no I'm not talking about the move where you destroy a wound. On an X-box controller you hold RT, then hold Y, your insect will start to chirp and your glaive will glow white, aim it, and let it go. If you're good with your aiming it'll hit all three spots and bring you back your 3 colors. If not just try again until you get them all, or just hit Y again to send it out for the spots you missed.

Once I learned this move, it's been so much easier to play. You can also go into focus mode and just hit your Y or Strong Rising Slash Combo, it'll hit the enemy and send out your kinsect at the same time while marking the target, so it'll just buzz around it constantly damaging it, can recall it whenever you like to gain the buff.

https://youtu.be/3t30jkiLeNw

This is what I'm talking about. You can see in the top left corner, the kinsect spreads its wings to allow for extraction of 3 buffs at once. If aimed correctly, you'll get all three, although in battle this is much harder to do, I usually get 2 then I have to aim for the third one manually, it's been much faster though and I'm getting better at it.

[Xerastraza]

I am loving Insect glaive is all i use.
And i was a Insect glaive user in worlds.

I find it MUCH improved now to be honest.

[Sigs]

insert 'always has been' meme

[AskmeaboutJesus]

I think this is the best it has ever felt tbh

[StarExile]

Yeah, i have like 3k uses of Glaive in previous games.
In this game, for now, Glaive is too slow, extract gathering is tedious coz you need all 3 colors in order to perform.
"Big damage" moves using all 3 extracts on hit, so you need gather them again with a slow awss insect, yeah wounds restore all 3 extracts, but this is unrealistic to have wounded monster all the time.
But i think there is deco crystal or some set bonus for wounds, but i dont know..Another thing Holding Buttons for most usefull stuff is anoying af.

Ima a Long Sword main for now, untill they change something.

*Lol farming clowns in these forums is a speedrun. :D

[Iggi]

Автор сообщения: Scipo0419

Strong Rising Slash + Tornado Slash + Strong Rising Slash + Tornado Slash (looped it once because it was about the same time to execute) did ~270 damage

Based on this, the Strong Descending Slash into Rising Spiral is a good finisher, but your bread and butter should still be the Tornado Slash loop

I use Strong Rising Slash + Strong Descending Slash + Strong Rising Slash + Strong Descending Slash, assuming the enemy is knocked down of course, does a lot more damage, and it chains fast. Using Strong Rising Slash + Tornado Slash has a bit of a delay in between, doesn't feel good, also does less damage for the animation and wait time involved.

The key is to hold down your B button (on x-box controller) down while you're doing the Strong Rising Slash, let it go at the end, then immediately hold it again, and do another Strong Rising Slash, just repeat this.

Of course if your buffs are about to fall off, Rising Spiral Slash should be used to finish it off and get 1 or 2 buffs back.

[Catpuppy]

I also think that Insect Glaive feels better than ever before.

[★ Moonlight ★]

Im not sure what you mean by slow?
It's EXTREMELY aggressive.
Don't focus so much on getting triple buff, you can finish it by attacking in focus mode. You just need red to do the charge

[Scipo0419]

Автор сообщения: Iggi

Автор сообщения: Scipo0419

Strong Rising Slash + Tornado Slash + Strong Rising Slash + Tornado Slash (looped it once because it was about the same time to execute) did ~270 damage

Based on this, the Strong Descending Slash into Rising Spiral is a good finisher, but your bread and butter should still be the Tornado Slash loop

I use Strong Rising Slash + Strong Descending Slash + Strong Rising Slash + Strong Descending Slash, assuming the enemy is knocked down of course, does a lot more damage, and it chains fast. Using Strong Rising Slash + Tornado Slash has a bit of a delay in between, doesn't feel good, also does less damage for the animation and wait time involved.

The key is to hold down your B button (on x-box controller) down while you're doing the Strong Rising Slash, let it go at the end, then immediately hold it again, and do another Strong Rising Slash, just repeat this.

Of course if your buffs are about to fall off, Rising Spiral Slash should be used to finish it off and get 1 or 2 buffs back.

I didn't even test that. But you're absolutely right. Rising Spiral is definitely a finisher move rather than something to weave into every combo.

Edit: this seems to relegate Tornado Slash to a poke move rather than a large opening move. That's sick. I can't wait to play this weapon more. I'm focusing on SnS and SA for the story.

[StarExile]

Автор сообщения: Iggi

You need to learn to abuse the piercing Kinsect: Harvest Extract move that sends your little insect through the whole Monster, and no I'm not talking about the move where you destroy a wound. On an X-box controller you hold RT, then hold Y, your insect will start to chirp and your glaive will glow white, aim it, and let it go. If you're good with your aiming it'll hit all three spots and bring you back your 3 colors. If not just try again until you get them all, or just hit Y again to send it out for the spots you missed.

Once I learned this move, it's been so much easier to play. You can also go into focus mode and just hit your Y or Strong Rising Slash Combo, it'll hit the enemy and send out your kinsect at the same time while marking the target, so it'll just buzz around it constantly damaging it, can recall it whenever you like to gain the buff.

https://youtu.be/3t30jkiLeNw

This is what I'm talking about. You can see in the top left corner, the kinsect spreads its wings to allow for extraction of 3 buffs at once. If aimed correctly, you'll get all three, although in battle this is much harder to do, I usually get 2 then I have to aim for the third one manually, it's been much faster though and I'm getting better at it.

Well yeah, the thing is that like iam standing 1m away from monsters face, im aiming right at his face, sending bug to extract red...But god daym monster moving faster that my Lvl. 6 Speed insect cant reach mf even from that distance lol :D

Prolly iam playing Glaive with World style in mind. I just found out, that in Focus Mode if you aim Up, you can constanly attack even from distance and the insect performing attacks will be able to collect extracts from all parts it touches - mb this is the way.

But holding buttons is something i dont want to do for hours i play, it alreay hurts lol :D

I`ll try tips, other guys posted, usefull info

[AskmeaboutJesus]

Автор сообщения: Iggi

You need to learn to abuse the piercing Kinsect: Harvest Extract move that sends your little insect through the whole Monster, and no I'm not talking about the move where you destroy a wound. On an X-box controller you hold RT, then hold Y, your insect will start to chirp and your glaive will glow white, aim it, and let it go. If you're good with your aiming it'll hit all three spots and bring you back your 3 colors. If not just try again until you get them all, or just hit Y again to send it out for the spots you missed.

Once I learned this move, it's been so much easier to play. You can also go into focus mode and just hit your Y or Strong Rising Slash Combo, it'll hit the enemy and send out your kinsect at the same time while marking the target, so it'll just buzz around it constantly damaging it, can recall it whenever you like to gain the buff.

https://youtu.be/3t30jkiLeNw

This is what I'm talking about. You can see in the top left corner, the kinsect spreads its wings to allow for extraction of 3 buffs at once. If aimed correctly, you'll get all three, although in battle this is much harder to do, I usually get 2 then I have to aim for the third one manually, it's been much faster though and I'm getting better at it.

Goat. Thank you for the info.

[The Debauchery]

I don't even know. I've not got to a point in the story where I can freely experiment yet.

But I loved Insect Glaive in MHGU and MHWI. The changes in Rise seriously put me off the weapon though. I basically quit Insect Glaive entirely in Rise because they moved all the controls around to make room for the Wirebug controls.... so I've kinda been put off trying it since.

To be totally fair though, I've literally used NO OTHER WEAPON besides Bow in Wilds so far.

[Scipo0419]

Автор сообщения: StarExile

Автор сообщения: Iggi

You need to learn to abuse the piercing Kinsect: Harvest Extract move that sends your little insect through the whole Monster, and no I'm not talking about the move where you destroy a wound. On an X-box controller you hold RT, then hold Y, your insect will start to chirp and your glaive will glow white, aim it, and let it go. If you're good with your aiming it'll hit all three spots and bring you back your 3 colors. If not just try again until you get them all, or just hit Y again to send it out for the spots you missed.

Once I learned this move, it's been so much easier to play. You can also go into focus mode and just hit your Y or Strong Rising Slash Combo, it'll hit the enemy and send out your kinsect at the same time while marking the target, so it'll just buzz around it constantly damaging it, can recall it whenever you like to gain the buff.

https://youtu.be/3t30jkiLeNw

This is what I'm talking about. You can see in the top left corner, the kinsect spreads its wings to allow for extraction of 3 buffs at once. If aimed correctly, you'll get all three, although in battle this is much harder to do, I usually get 2 then I have to aim for the third one manually, it's been much faster though and I'm getting better at it.

Well yeah, the thing is that like iam standing 1m away from monsters face, im aiming right at his face, sending bug to extract red...But god daym monster moving faster that my Lvl. 6 Speed insect cant reach mf even from that distance lol :D

Prolly iam playing Glaive with World style in mind. I just found out, that in Focus Mode if you aim Up, you can constanly attack even from distance and the insect performing attacks will be able to collect extracts from all parts it touches - mb this is the way.

But holding buttons is something i dont want to do for hours i play, it alreay hurts lol :D

I`ll try tips, other guys posted, usefull info :mhwgood:

So turn on toggle Focus Mode? It's goated for IG and really good for everything else.