Gamers we caused this problem.

[Rager]

We have been too nice and welcoming to "dad gamers" people who feel like they shouldn't invest time into games because they don’t have enough of it. In the old days, gamers managed their time better, even with jobs and kids. They still found ways to game. Games could be grindy and still felt fun to play.

Now, we've turned a blind eye to cash shops that speed up progression in games. We justify it by saying, “Well, people with limited time should be able to enjoy games too.” And look at what we've gotten in return low-effort, poorly designed games catering to players who don’t have much time to play. The quality of games has dropped so much that even beloved franchises are no longer what they used to be.

This is our fault for being too welcoming. Instead, we should have drawn a line and said, “These types of games aren’t for you.” Instead, we’ve rewarded developers for making games worse to accommodate dad gamers. This is a problem developers with no skill or passion are being rewarded by these casual players who are happy with mediocre, watered-down experiences. Meanwhile, the rest of us are stuck with subpar games, all because we wanted to share the joy of gaming with others.

We let this happen, and now we’re paying dearly for it.

[djcarey]

Originally posted by Rager:

Originally posted by djcarey:

You can always say no though... even to this, its not like you're forced.

Not enough people say no that is the issue.

I mean they coerce, Intimidate, twist facts into you saying "yes" & everybody is just an enabler letting it happen and hardly nobody says "NO" "thats in the wrong" they all just sponges & simple.. LOL

[Evilgenius]

Originally posted by Rager:

Nah, but we need to start dog piling people online, and just make people feel like they are not welcome. Start booting people from groups that clearly are these types of people. (as in they don't have a basic understanding of builds or whatever.) and just start making them not want to voice out in a community so the feedback and developers can't hear them. That will be a good first step.

Ah, you are a meta gamer, that explains you being insufferable.

News flash, your type of gamer is despised by the majority for ruining most multiplayer games. Good luck trying to boot people out, my money is on you getting booted.

[MoXy]

So by that logic, if im a fan of the series and the performance is atrocious you tell me to skip the game, just live your life and move on? So do you blame us who bought this game and having fun with it? I mean i get it the performance is absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but you can't force casual gamers to not enjoy the game just because they have godlike pc just bruteforcing the game optimization.

[Evilgenius]

Originally posted by Rager:

Gaming addiction is the problem. People crave that escapism. Even if it means accepting slop.

Sadly too many dad gamers mix in with it.

Dad gamer just means person with a life outside of gaming, bit contradictory to your first point of them being addicts...

[Rager]

Originally posted by Evilgenius:

Originally posted by Rager:

Gaming addiction is the problem. People crave that escapism. Even if it means accepting slop.

Sadly too many dad gamers mix in with it.

Dad gamer just means person with a life outside of gaming, bit contradictory to your first point of them being addicts...

Nah, dad gamers are the unskilled people who use I got a life as a excuse to be bad at games or not willing to grind. Plenty of older dad gamers made time and manage time better and still was able to be good at games.


The dad gamers of today use I don't got time as a excuse to waste everyone time in video games when they join your team.

[Rager]

Originally posted by MoXy:

So by that logic, if im a fan of the series and the performance is atrocious you tell me to skip the game, just live your life and move on? So do you blame us who bought this game and having fun with it? I mean i get it the performance is absolute ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ but you can't force casual gamers to not enjoy the game just because they have godlike pc just bruteforcing the game optimization.

Even if the game ran well. That is one of MANY problems this game has. The core system of this game is bad, and this feels like a story driven game not a monster hunter game.

[Evilgenius]

Originally posted by Rager:

Nah, dad gamers are the unskilled people who use I got a life as a excuse to be bad at games or not willing to grind. Plenty of older dad gamers made time and manage time better and still was able to be good at games.


The dad gamers of today use I don't got time as a excuse to waste everyone time in video games when they join your team.

You are such a stereotype, it is pretty sad.

[MoXy]

Originally posted by Evilgenius:

Originally posted by Rager:

Nah, dad gamers are the unskilled people who use I got a life as a excuse to be bad at games or not willing to grind. Plenty of older dad gamers made time and manage time better and still was able to be good at games.


The dad gamers of today use I don't got time as a excuse to waste everyone time in video games when they join your team.

You are such a stereotype, it is pretty sad.

Last time i know people gaming to have fun, is it mandatory to be really good at the game? i don't think so.

[VoiD]

Originally posted by Rager:

Originally posted by Evilgenius:

Maybe you should take that as you being wrong.

Gaming addiction is the problem. People crave that escapism. Even if it means accepting slop.

Sadly too many dad gamers mix in with it.

All "addictions" that don't involve chemicals are pure ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, and no, dopamine doesn't count, it's just an excuse to milk money off ignorant people.

There is no such thing as a gaming "addict", compulsive behavior maybe, but no addiction, you'll never have withdrawal symptoms by not playing a game.

[Evilgenius]

Originally posted by MoXy:

Last time i know people gaming to have fun, is it mandatory to be really good at the game? i don't think so.

And you are right, this is always what gaming was and is about, it is just a tiny section of ultra autists that think they are true gamers.

[Rager]

Originally posted by MoXy:

Originally posted by Evilgenius:

You are such a stereotype, it is pretty sad.

Last time i know people gaming to have fun, is it mandatory to be really good at the game? i don't think so.

Like all things it depends.

If you are grouping with other players. It is respectful to at least be decent enough to understand your class, have a ok build and want to make the goal easier instead of harder.

In a single player game by yourself who cares?

My point was this, This slop we get as games, that is so brain dead easy that we have a mobile auto run now to the monster because for some reason developers think we don't even have time for that. Has lead to one of the worse monster hunters ever.

[MithrilGrizzly]

People with limited time should be able to enjoy games. That being said, not every game is made for everyone and not every game should cater to everyone.

Shoehorning certain people into the term "Dad gamer" is a pretty stupid thing to do for no good reason, there are many dads and other people with limited time that kick ass despite limited time, whereas there are people with more time on their hands who need the immediate dopamine rush of instant gratification. It's these people who seek instant gratification that certain companies seek to take advantage of.

Also, how pathetic do you have to be to start gate keeping and, as you say, "dog piling" on people. People like you are the reason that people who play games are treated with contempt. Gate-keeping accomplishes nothing other than making you look like an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

[Evilgenius]

Originally posted by Rager:

My point was this, This slop we get as games, that is so brain dead easy that we have a mobile auto run now to the monster because for some reason developers think we don't even have time for that. Has lead to one of the worse monster hunters ever.

You don't have to use the auto run if you don't want to, outside of the few story missions you are free to move where ever you want. You would know this if you actually played the game, but you don't and are just ignorant.

[Rager]

Originally posted by MithrilGrizzly:

People with limited time should be able to enjoy games. That being said, not every game is made for everyone and not every game should cater to everyone.

Shoehorning certain people into the term "Dad gamer" is a pretty stupid thing to do for no good reason, there are many dads and other people with limited time that kick ass despite limited time, whereas there are people with more time on their hands who need the immediate dopamine rush of instant gratification. It's these people who seek instant gratification that certain companies seek to take advantage of.

Also, how pathetic do you have to be to start gate keeping and, as you say, "dog piling" on people. People like you are the reason that people who play games are treated with contempt. Gate-keeping accomplishes nothing other than making you look like an ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

The dad gamers I am talking about are the ones that use I have a life as a excuse for these types of games. It is not for the dad gamer who enjoys grindy games who gets better and manage time.


We all know the type of person i am talking about.

[Rager]

Originally posted by Evilgenius:

Originally posted by Rager:

My point was this, This slop we get as games, that is so brain dead easy that we have a mobile auto run now to the monster because for some reason developers think we don't even have time for that. Has lead to one of the worse monster hunters ever.

You don't have to use the auto run if you don't want to, outside of the few story missions you are free to move where ever you want. You would know this if you actually played the game, but you don't and are just ignorant.

The fact that it is in the game enough to irk me because the game was balanced around it in mind.


I could do the fights naked also for it to be harder but guess what? That does not fix the foundation or core issue of the game.