Where is my beloved canteen?!?

[sfebtyler]

The canteen was a staple of this series! Now I just get rations? Such a cop out.

[Khergit Horse Archer]

i dun even care aboot da buffs i jus wan da social aspect cuz its funni eating wit randoes

[Tustle]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Herr Schadenfreude:

I really like this take on it, but I am still annoyed that after 180 hours in game, I still have to go on gathering missions to get FOOD. How is there no in game mechanic for me to establish some kind of food farm at this point? I cannot farm ingredients, I cannot grind meal vouchers outside of special event quests, I literally have to run around with my gathering gear on to get the special nodes, then HOPE that someone is trading for my ingredients.

It's a garbage replacement for the cantine system.

at this point then I'm not sure how I have a surplus of ingredients, rations aside. You...are collecting everything you see when you're out gathering I hope, in addition to trading everything you can for Additional ingredients? Because some resource nodes give Finishing Touch ingredients when gathered from, and with a gathering set on they give multiple units of that ingredient: pretty sure say the Might and Adamant Seeds have a chance of giving Wild Seed Oil for instance, Honey nodes will obviously have Eastern Honey on them, and Herb nodes will sometimes have Wild Herbs.

It does annoy the piss out of me that Wyvern Eggs apparently don't yield consumable eggs though. Apparently they just reward 50 Guild/Research Points.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Herr Schadenfreude:

This. I literally have like 25million zenny. Why can't I hire a full time chef?

I imagine Meowscular Chef took one look at the Windward Plains from afar, said "You'll get dust in my kitchens!" then left with a meowscular huff.

[Razaah !!!!]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tustle:

If I didn't know any better this is the Monster Hunter team and their crazy attention to detail, but instead of wildlife, or animations, it's in supplies. Unlike Astera, we're going to uncharted lands with no established, or stable, food supply chain from the Guild. So while the Guild can supply us with the basic rations, it's on us to source local goods/ingredients to make them tastier.

I like the supposed lore reason but gameplay wise its just tedious.

Lorewise we already established connections with different tribes that sometimes invite us to a cookout which we can now order in at the grand hub

-but-

why arent we cutting out the middle man and just buy in the ingredients from those tribes since we are more established now ?
Have our palicos learn from them so they can apply it to the canteen.

The vouchers apparently dont even count for people in your private lobby anymore which is a huge downgrade.
You'd think sharing resources amongst hunters would be encouraged.

Anyway. The idea might be sound but i find the execution lacking. Introducing tedium in the food mechanics while making other aspects of the game more "modern streamlined" feels like a step back.

But thats just my opinion.

[Tustle]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Razaah !!!!:

why arent we cutting out the middle man and just buy in the ingredients from those tribes since we are more established now ?

Another lorewise reason, who's existence nobody will relish: they're tribes that do everything by trade, not currency. Our millions and bazillions of zenny be useless to them.

and the reason they do any gathering for us at all is because we also cull the more violent local megafauna for them, making another thing we're trading with them.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Razaah !!!!:

The vouchers apparently dont even count for people in your private lobby anymore which is a huge downgrade.
You'd think sharing resources amongst hunters would be encouraged.

and this too is probably the equivalent of a tribe going "Hey! They only gave us one of the special vouchers and now we're sending them five meals!" or something, not to say this isn't also malarkey.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Razaah !!!!:

Anyway. The idea might be sound but i find the execution lacking. Introducing tedium in the food mechanics while making other aspects of the game more "modern streamlined" feels like a step back.

That all said and to reiterate, while I don't personally find it too much a bother, I still agree.

[Razaah !!!!]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Tustle:

Another lorewise reason, who's existence nobody will relish: they're tribes that do everything by trade, not currency. Our millions and bazillions of zenny be useless to them.

Yes i should have clarified.

We as the hunter from almas unit are somewhat of a glorified and heavily armed, also crazy, boy/girlscout.

We have staked out a lot of valuable ingredients that we must have reported on at base camp or at least alma has.

Yes we still collect stuff to trade for individual things and it makes perfect sense to trade for fancy food stuffs up until the point the guild put that grand hub in action.

Our cats and other more gathering focused units should be ALL over the collection of trade in items for necessities like food and basic supplies to ensure the entire operation can continue.

Its not a one man show. If we really wanna bring lore into this then the guild is just straight up pushing all of their work onto a single hunter.


Eh. Its still early in the game so maybe things get adjusted better. Im still upset over the vouchers not being valid for a hunting party because thats what they should be valid for.
"Hey those hunters formed a 4 man squad and would like to voucher some meals in to get rid of the monsters we cant beat ourselves"

Its not like they pay us in zennies since as you said they exclusively deal in trade and have never interacted with a zenny based faction before.

[Tustle]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Razaah !!!!:

We as the hunter from almas unit are somewhat of a glorified and heavily armed, also crazy, boy/girlscout.

We have staked out a lot of valuable ingredients that we must have reported on at base camp or at least alma has.

Yes we still collect stuff to trade for individual things and it makes perfect sense to trade for fancy food stuffs up until the point the guild put that grand hub in action.

Our cats and other more gathering focused units should be ALL over the collection of trade in items for necessities like food and basic supplies to ensure the entire operation can continue.

Its not a one man show. If we really wanna bring lore into this then the guild is just straight up pushing all of their work onto a single hunter.

An excellent point, wtf The Guild. I can imagine ingredient supplies are limited by how fast the settlements can produce them, but even getting the basic ingredients trade-automated by the Guild ought to be no problem. They can send teams out to gather things the tribes want to trade for, then we can buy the limited amounts of ingredients they acquired with zenns or points.

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Razaah !!!!:

Eh. Its still early in the game so maybe things get adjusted better. Im still upset over the vouchers not being valid for a hunting party because thats what they should be valid for.
"Hey those hunters formed a 4 man squad and would like to voucher some meals in to get rid of the monsters we cant beat ourselves"

Its not like they pay us in zennies since as you said they exclusively deal in trade and have never interacted with a zenny based faction before.

Also fair, and yeah, maybe Ingredient Exchange comes along later. Or they're staggering the release of such a hypothetical system for 'realism.' Again.

[outtops]

Ursprünglich geschrieben von Rhyagelle:

There are a lot of things from prior titles, such as World, that really should have been in this game.

1) Canteens
2) Research
3) Room (to decorate with captured endemic life etc)
4) Decorations

I mean, they have to. That's a fundamental function of mh

[RobeRonin]

I remember in the beta thinking that the cat food shop was gonna b e some epic store to buy food ingredients and then it just gave me ration made me super sad lol

[Forte]

Yeah, it's pathetic they removed something as basic as the canteen. And you can't even buy your food with points or money. Just idiotic. Can't make the monsters too hard, better make you grind for tickets and ingredients.

[wololo]

I hope they bring back the canteen with the kitty chefs and I hope they do _not_ bring back the egg delivery quests...