I hate Alma, and here is why I feel that way.

[Rune]

Feel free to disagree, that's fine. Not trying to insult anyone's waifu. (Unless you like that butt ugly handler from MHWorld, that annoying cook needs a paper bag to cover that ugly face.)

Anyways, Alma is just so annoying. She follows around, never sits at camp like an actual handler. She doesn't gather materials fast enough for me to appreciate her following me around all the time. Also, I'm so sick and tired of her "authorizing" me to hunt a monster. Yeah, I know the technical lore reasons about guild knights and poaching, but holy crap its annoying.

She's a newcomer in a land she's not familiar with, and she's a cultural anthropologist, not a ecologist. There's no way she would know if it's safe to hunt said monster. Not only that, it just comes off as if she owns us, and a little bit condescending IMO.

The whole scene with the wudswuds (love those critters) where they took her stupid little idol, had no importance to the story at all. We would have met with the wudwuds regardless if she owned that idol or not.

[Aoitenshi]

Origineel geplaatst door Oni-Lyrics:

Worldcels will say all of this is why they hate the world handler.

But if you say the exact same thing about Alma they'll be like "Nuu shes the best cutie wholesome hot sexy :3333"

That's just how humans are. Have a cute/sexy girl do something stupid and we'll find it easier to defend her.

On the other hand, if a plain girl falls down in front of me, I'd probably just walk the other way.

Note that the same logic also applies to handsome vs unkempt guy.

[Player Zer01]

tbh the whole "not poaching" aspect is.... a bit hypocritical.... you are poachers. you kill monster over and over to get heir stuff, sometimes leave the carcass, and sell their items in mass bulk.... youre a poacher.

[golden_tongue]

Origineel geplaatst door Viper:

your not the boss. sorry. Your just working for this group...and doing your job. She does a job you cannot do. There not here just to kill monsters.

im sorry that i spent 70 dollars and want to leave the equivalent of a noisy animal back at camp, and i have a noisy animal i like, my palico, and 100% i am the boss because im the one with the big sword, at least my other companions are helpful

[Zu]

The whole authorization thing has always been pretty dumb ever since they tried to expand lore without realizing it would make the universe make even less sense.

In a world where even a low tier monster such as a Bulldrome could wipe an entire village pretty easily, having to wait for authorization because muh poachers is incredibly silly and has always been.

People excuse it because « muh lore » and don’t try to think about it any more than just that.

This entire authorization thing also completly falls apart from the moment that i can go out of my way , in game , to kill every monster i see that aren’t related to the quest im currently doing.

[Zogtar]

Mod Alma into something else if you dislike her. Having the quest board follow me around on the open map is the greatest QoL update the series has seen.

[Budoshi]

ok, yeah i disagree. on all acounts, both on her and on MHW handler.

[Batman]

Origineel geplaatst door golden_tongue:

Origineel geplaatst door Viper:

your not the boss. sorry. Your just working for this group...and doing your job. She does a job you cannot do. There not here just to kill monsters.

im sorry that i spent 70 dollars and want to leave the equivalent of a noisy animal back at camp, and i have a noisy animal i like, my palico, and 100% i am the boss because im the one with the big sword, at least my other companions are helpful

That's like a recruit saying "of course I'm the general because I have the rifle". Usually the weaponed people are not the ones in charge. They're the ones commanded to charge in.

[The Debauchery]

Origineel geplaatst door Rune:

(Unless you like that butt ugly handler from MHWorld, that annoying cook needs a paper bag to cover that ugly face.)

Can be fixed with mods.
World Handler becomes 1000% better with a mod makeover.

[SirusTheMadDJ]

Origineel geplaatst door Player Zer01:

tbh the whole "not poaching" aspect is.... a bit hypocritical.... you are poachers. you kill monster over and over to get heir stuff, sometimes leave the carcass, and sell their items in mass bulk.... youre a poacher.

.....here we go again...

So, the reason why they're called quests, and the hunter ranks and so on with the lore framing, is that you're completing requests from other people. This is more obvious in the previous games where it showed the request, like "Oh no, there's this stinky ape thing sitting on my Valento White Bag, please kill it so that I don't have to double-check the spelling on that dead meme, hunter!".

This doesn't cover just leaving camp and throwing down with something close by, sure, but then you also can literally replay every single quest. So this is more of an example of Story and gameplay separation, but then we're all bumping a thread where the twelve year old called a woman a cook, so I doubt this logic will work, either.

The real reasons are that the Hunter's Guild are regulating what happens. This reason alters per game, but similarly to World, we're in a region that's not fully understood, and only move to act if there's endangerment to life, or if it is seen as necessary. After all, we don't want to overhunt something to extinction, or turn another grasslands into a vast desert. Again...

You're not getting drops from a monster you don't met the required rank for is a gameplay balance thing, but it's covered in the story as "you're wasting the guild resources, supply chain, training and your literal job to go slap something for the sake of making that build you googled off of Twitter without playing the key quests, dingus".

It's only apparent in this game given that the hub is no longer physically separated from the zones, as it's always been. But yeah, outside of key story reasons, there's always been the usual suspects running, pooping and roaring out there, and we've always needed authorisation to act.

After all, we're hired pest control, effectively. It doesn't matter if the "pests" are multi ton enigmas of biology, or the can of raid is a story tall metal paddle posing as a sword, but hey, it's still a job we're paid to do.

As for the thread...

Do I mention that there's been a muppet in every game that's triggered something going south extremely rapidly over something utterly dumb?

[Fae Flame]

1) I love her character... she has a cute personality and I can really relate to her.

2) Hunters are respected, and just like in the real world it takes permits and training to take lives. So it makes sense that you want checks and balances to make sure someone else agrees with you killing the thing before you run off and do it. I really loved this change actually.

3) I don't think she is trying to be condescending, and I think that the English dub does her a great disservice. She has been there for years at this point and personally picked you to lead the expedition into the White Wraith. She really admires and respects your character !

4) I think that her anthropological relic that almost got smashed was purely there for character development, and was never intended to be a story point or pusher. I really felt for her in that moment. It's supposed to be like if you had a collectible or something else expensive you really prize be stolen/taken hostage from you in front of you - I'd be shocked too.

I am not really sure I understand all of the Alma hate. She is the first female character in MH that I LOVE! She is kind and confident when need be. She is a great buffer between the hunter and Nata - it's great that canonically the hunter is super awkward with kids.

I hear most people talking about the 3d models between her and Gemma and that topic really icks me, but to be honest if we were talking about real world women I don't think people would be talking like that so openly and hurtfully so that kind of sucks to see on here too. Not saying that's what you were talking about of course, but I know that's a part of the discourse.

On most of the hunts the extra person tagging along is there for the "seikret resupply". Later in the story Alma is off doing something else and you get stuck with Erik filling in.

Idk, I'd be her bestie so that's my essay on it xD

[TaliHazard]

i hate her face, she seems like the kind of girl who would force me to read a harry potter novel just to date her.

[The Debauchery]

Origineel geplaatst door Fae Flame:

3) I don't think she is trying to be condescending, and I think that the English dub does her a great disservice. She has been there for years at this point and personally picked you to lead the expedition into the White Wraith. She really admires and respects your character !

Gotta call horsesh!t on that last part.
Just to be clear... in EVERY cutscene she makes all the decisions. She not only declares what we're going to do, but what we like or don't like, what is or isn't going to happen... she acts like she speaks on our behalf in all contexts. And when we're going from A to B or on a quest we can't even step away without being chastised and told to go back to her. Our hunter is obviously more knowledgeable in matters of danger, combat, etc than Alma, but we're not allowed to even SUGGEST that we might take another route because it might be quicker, safer, more productive or whatever. We're lower than even a dog to us. We're just playing Alma's accessory, basically.

About the only counterpoint is that frankly our hunter acts the same way when they get to speak for themselves. It was particularly damning after I beat Squidward and the game made my Hunter chastise Werner for bugger knows what stupid reason. He did absolutely nothing wrong but apparently my Hunter was irritated that he helped people by fixing a thing and something we couldn't have predicted happened as an accidental side-effect. I wanted to step in and defend Werner against my own damned hunter... Definitely jarring.

I hear most people talking about the 3d models between her and Gemma and that topic really icks me, but to be honest if we were talking about real world women I don't think people would be talking like that so openly and hurtfully so that kind of sucks to see on here too. Not saying that's what you were talking about of course, but I know that's a part of the discourse.

I reckon Alma looks far better than Gemma (Gemma's hair is an utter crapheap)... but yeah, that is kinda beside the point. Her behaviour is inexcusable, even if she looks cute.

[superdragon9000]

Looking at Alma I think she looks alot like Julia from Tekken 7.

[ꍏꂵꌃꀤꃴꍏ꒒ꍟꈤꉓꍟ]

Origineel geplaatst door Rune:

Feel free to disagree, that's fine. Not trying to insult anyone's waifu. (Unless you like that butt ugly handler from MHWorld, that annoying cook needs a paper bag to cover that ugly face.)

Anyways, Alma is just so annoying. She follows around, never sits at camp like an actual handler. She doesn't gather materials fast enough for me to appreciate her following me around all the time. Also, I'm so sick and tired of her "authorizing" me to hunt a monster. Yeah, I know the technical lore reasons about guild knights and poaching, but holy crap its annoying.

She's a newcomer in a land she's not familiar with, and she's a cultural anthropologist, not a ecologist. There's no way she would know if it's safe to hunt said monster. Not only that, it just comes off as if she owns us, and a little bit condescending IMO.

The whole scene with the wudswuds (love those critters) where they took her stupid little idol, had no importance to the story at all. We would have met with the wudwuds regardless if she owned that idol or not.

I actually agree with you a lot.. I was able to kinda ignore her until I got to High Rank.. Her ***EVERY TIME WITH OUT FAIL*** "A tempered monster! Look at the size of that scar!!" every single monster!! Like damn someone make a mod that sets her voice only to 0.

The does the exact same thing worlds handler does that people hated. "Hunter *WE* have to go deal with this." *YOU* hunt the monster. "Good job Hunter *WE* did it." Like no the hell you didnt. I did it. Just cause you put 2 fire ferns in my pouch doesnt mean youre helping. And dont even get me started on the kid....

I love the hunting part of wilds, I love the food changes, and having the villages gather stuff for me too.. But damn if everything else isnt just annoying as all hell....

[ZeroHero]

People just find anything to complain about these days