So let's talk about that Erik character . . .

[Walrus Beard]

I saw someone saying this is a trans character. I was immediately suspicious, and I went to look up some English gameplay. Sure enough, the voice in English sounds very feminine. The voice actor is Casey Mongillo, a non-binary who uses they/them pronouns. Based on Casey's voice and appearance, I say this is a biological woman, and she was recruited to voice Erik because of course they have to shove their activism into everything. In Japanese, it is very obvious by the voice that Erik is male. He is a typical Japanese pretty boy. These characters are quite common in Japanese entertainment, and there is no agenda here on the part of the creators. My recommendation is to play this game in Japanese with subtitles. The original Japanese dub will always better capture the intentions of the creators, especially if you know a little bit of Japanese.

Edit: It is clear to me that a lot of people are not actually READING the original post before they comment. Keeping up with this thread is exhausting, and I grow tired of correcting those with low reading comprehension. I am unsubscribing from this discussion. Knock yourselves out.

[Mrrshan68]

Huh, it never even occurred to me that erik could be seen as trans.
The effeminate pretty boy is such an insanely common trope in anime/manga that i never saw him as anything other than male.
Heck often the japanese voice artist for pretty boys will be female, so his voice also seemed to be normal for the trope.

Sounds to me like people are just seeing a pattern where there isnt one.

[Casval Zem Daikun]

Varagonax の投稿を引用：

I know they aren't reading this but I hope they do.

Even if the game has NB or Trans VAs, that does NOT immediately equate to woke rep. EVEN IF THERE IS REP, why does it bother you so much? Who cares THAT much about these things? Games arent bad because they have alphabet mafia characters, they are bad because producers limited the time spent on games, the writers are low in quality, the team leads do not lead effectively.

In any case, not every game has to be about you or for you. Let other people see themselves in video games, you've had the butchers cut of every game for decades. Its time to let other people have the same experiences we love. Not everything is made for you, and that is ok. You wouldnt ♥♥♥♥♥ because a car company released a car you dont like, you just wouldnt get that car. Why are video games any different.

I'm more curious why you need to "see yourself" in a game.
Does this mean I shouldn't play games with a female protag since I'm not female?

[Zarvera]

I don't use english dub so i have no clue what's this whole transformer nonsense here is about.

[Hanki]

Let's talk about how much of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ loser you are instead yes?

[Mythily]

Look what I'm going to do
Erika.
See what they did?

[Menagerie]

Kobi Blade の投稿を引用：

Because in 2025, it is a crime to release content that doesn't have a transgender character.

I've seen this stated a lot, but nobody will ever show me the actual law and I keep seeing a lot of games without trans characters come out. Could someone let me know the actual legal statute where someone goes through criminal prosecution for not including a trans character in a game?

[Nolo Contendere]

sleepiest dhampir の投稿を引用：

@mods need to close this topic

Agreed. Guess I’ll jump on the grenade and say something deeply insulting and you can report me. Maybe that’ll get the mods’ attention and they’ll see the dumpster fire of a thread.


Will “go back to your hamster of a wife you elderberry smelling ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥” suffice as a reportable insult?

[Mythily]

Menagerie の投稿を引用：

I've seen this stated a lot, but nobody will ever show me the actual law and I keep seeing a lot of games without trans characters come out. Could someone let me know the actual legal statute where someone goes through criminal prosecution for not including a trans character in a game?

It's only if they make a contract with lets say Sweet Baby Inc. as example. They have to put in woke content and get paid by the corp for doing so. I don't know how much it actually is, but it seems like its worth it based on a number of releases already (DA veilguard, Avowed)
There's one rumor going around that capcom made deals with ESG, haven't looked into that much and I also don't know how different it is from DEI.

[Rex Aurora]

don't care, looks female enough.

[Fluffy Monster Thing]

Menagerie の投稿を引用：

Kobi Blade の投稿を引用：

Because in 2025, it is a crime to release content that doesn't have a transgender character.

I've seen this stated a lot, but nobody will ever show me the actual law and I keep seeing a lot of games without trans characters come out. Could someone let me know the actual legal statute where someone goes through criminal prosecution for not including a trans character in a game?

Nobody has actually listened to Erik's japanese VA where they just sound like a regular soft spoken guy too. Also there's zero confirmation that Erik is trans. Also the VA industry just has lots of NB/Trans people in it because hey guess what? Trans people do lots of voice training in general to pass in society as who they want to be, so they just wind up being naturally pretty good voice actors in general.

[Menagerie]

Mythily の投稿を引用：

Menagerie の投稿を引用：

I've seen this stated a lot, but nobody will ever show me the actual law and I keep seeing a lot of games without trans characters come out. Could someone let me know the actual legal statute where someone goes through criminal prosecution for not including a trans character in a game?

It's only if they make a contract with lets say Sweet Baby Inc. as example. They have to put in woke content and get paid by the corp for doing so. I don't know how much it actually is, but it seems like its worth it based on a number of releases already (DA veilguard, Avowed)

Sweet Baby Inc. is a consulting firm that consults on narrative design. Nobody hires a consulting firm with a contract that says they have to take that firm's suggestions. That's not how consulting works.

I get that people are upset but, regardless of if I agree with anyone, could we at least try to give realistic arguments?

[Fluffy Monster Thing]

Menagerie の投稿を引用：

Mythily の投稿を引用：

It's only if they make a contract with lets say Sweet Baby Inc. as example. They have to put in woke content and get paid by the corp for doing so. I don't know how much it actually is, but it seems like its worth it based on a number of releases already (DA veilguard, Avowed)

Sweet Baby Inc. is a consulting firm that consults on narrative design. Nobody hires a consulting firm with a contract that says they have to take that firm's suggestions. That's not how consulting works.

I get that people are upset but, regardless of if I agree with anyone, could we at least try to give realistic arguments?

Bro just spat alt-right buzzword salad hoping for a reaction.

[Velber]

Nolo Contendere の投稿を引用：

sleepiest dhampir の投稿を引用：

@mods need to close this topic

Agreed. Guess I’ll jump on the grenade and say something deeply insulting and you can report me. Maybe that’ll get the mods’ attention and they’ll see the dumpster fire of a thread.


Will “go back to your hamster of a wife you elderberry smelling ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥” suffice as a reportable insult?

no
you have to use a different kind of curse word...
like....♥♥♥♥♥cat
but without the cat
or "Catch yoU Next Tuesday"

[Velber]

Menagerie の投稿を引用：

Mythily の投稿を引用：

It's only if they make a contract with lets say Sweet Baby Inc. as example. They have to put in woke content and get paid by the corp for doing so. I don't know how much it actually is, but it seems like its worth it based on a number of releases already (DA veilguard, Avowed)

Sweet Baby Inc. is a consulting firm that consults on narrative design. Nobody hires a consulting firm with a contract that says they have to take that firm's suggestions. That's not how consulting works.

I get that people are upset but, regardless of if I agree with anyone, could we at least try to give realistic arguments?

nah consulting firms cant force things on a company the company decides, otherwise the credit card transfer is getting cancelled =)

[Menagerie]

Fluffy Monster Thing の投稿を引用：

Menagerie の投稿を引用：

I've seen this stated a lot, but nobody will ever show me the actual law and I keep seeing a lot of games without trans characters come out. Could someone let me know the actual legal statute where someone goes through criminal prosecution for not including a trans character in a game?

Nobody has actually listened to Erik's japanese VA where they just sound like a regular soft spoken guy too. Also there's zero confirmation that Erik is trans. Also the VA industry just has lots of NB/Trans people in it because hey guess what? Trans people do lots of voice training in general to pass in society as who they want to be, so they just wind up being naturally pretty good voice actors in general.

Never thought of Erik as trans. We joked about him being a femboy and that's mostly because of the character design, not the voice. Wouldn't have had any idea about the VA except for this thread, and I never saw anything in the game that brought up the idea.

I'm just tired of the weird arguments that have no basis in reality. It sounds like people are going to start blaming the lizard people Illuminati next.