Why is bow damage so low?

[lilkillpappy]

I noticed in other Monster Hunter games as well, that the bow seems to have the lowest damage output. I personally find it the most alluring weapon and always want to use it, but it sucks. Am I doing something wrong or does the bow just suck?

[Nihrahk]

Messaggio originale di AuraFlash:

Bow is literally the BEST weapon in Wilds atm. To be good you need to master distance so you're doing full damage as well as paying attention to your Coatings. Wound breaking does SOOO much damage and this thing can create SOOO many wounds on a monster BY ITSELF. If you think the bow's damage is low, you're not using it correctly.

Let's not forget about that focus attack it got. You literally become Magick Archer from Dragon's Dogma and will target any wounds and tracers on a monster, if you got a good amount of wounds/tracers, that's a lot of damage.

Oh, and speaking of tracers, those things are straight up insane. You don't even need to aim at the monster, because they will home in on the tracers. Bow is OP, and anyone calling it bad clearly don't know how to use it at all.

Bow isn't my type of weapon at all. In fact, I always sucked at using it, but even someone like me can see it's just straight up busted. I even used a LR bow against a HR Rompopolo at one point, and it got deleted. Sure, Rompopolo isn't the strongest monster, but the fact that a LR weapon can take out a HR monster without much effort speaks volumes.

[The Debauchery]

Messaggio originale di Nihrahk:

Bow isn't my type of weapon at all. In fact, I always sucked at using it, but even someone like me can see it's just straight up busted. I even used a LR bow against a HR Rompopolo at one point, and it got deleted. Sure, Rompopolo isn't the strongest monster, but the fact that a LR weapon can take out a HR monster without much effort speaks volumes.

Earlier on I went on a double hunt SOS with a Tempered Gravios and a Guardian Doshaguma. The Tempered Gravios was marked as my first / main monster... but when I got there I found nobody else was around. Apparently they were all fighting the Guardian Doshaguma on another floor. I had my Water Bow with Pierce Coatings... so I decided to fight the Gravios.
I soloed the Gravios down and Captured it... all before the others could deal with the Guardosh.... THEN I ran down and capped that too.
Can definitely confirm that Bow is insanely powerful... doubly so if it is a Water Bow with Pierce Coatings against Gravios (basically the most unbalanced match-up ever).

[Nihrahk]

Messaggio originale di The Debauchery:

Messaggio originale di Nihrahk:

Bow isn't my type of weapon at all. In fact, I always sucked at using it, but even someone like me can see it's just straight up busted. I even used a LR bow against a HR Rompopolo at one point, and it got deleted. Sure, Rompopolo isn't the strongest monster, but the fact that a LR weapon can take out a HR monster without much effort speaks volumes.

Earlier on I went on a double hunt SOS with a Tempered Gravios and a Guardian Doshaguma. The Tempered Gravios was marked as my first / main monster... but when I got there I found nobody else was around. Apparently they were all fighting the Guardian Doshaguma on another floor. I had my Water Bow with Pierce Coatings... so I decided to fight the Gravios.
I soloed the Gravios down and Captured it... all before the others could deal with the Guardosh.... THEN I ran down and capped that too.
Can definitely confirm that Bow is insanely powerful... doubly so if it is a Water Bow with Pierce Coatings against Gravios (basically the most unbalanced match-up ever).

I feel sorry for that Gravios. You just bullied the poor thing.

[Anxiety.exe]

Messaggio originale di Metsuro:

Messaggio originale di Lynsis:

the ranged weapons will usually have the lower dmg cause you're trading the dmg for the safety of ranged combat.

thew bow is medium ranged you sit mostly like 10 feet away, just outside of tail spin attacks. its weird to say the trade off for range is the difference between doing 10 damage with a bow, and 2000 damage with a greatsword

People need to understand that monster hunter range works as follows:
Close range = Right up in the monster's grundle
Long range = within smelling distance of close range

But my take on bow is my same take on Dual blades. Having safe dodges and hitting a lot is the main source of damage. But if you know your elements, and how to build properly around your playstyle and weapon, then those many small hits become many medium hits.
Pair that with survivability from the dodges, and reliably landing your skills, and it can be better than a greatsword which can easily get smacked while preparing a massive hit.

[Soren]

Messaggio originale di The Debauchery:

Can definitely confirm that Bow is insanely powerful... doubly so if it is a Water Bow with Pierce Coatings against Gravios (basically the most unbalanced match-up ever).

Eh, I heard elemental damage does not apply to wings or the head. So it probably has a good match up with piercing coating specifically. But piercing coating only has synergy with select monsters like Gravios and Uth Duna. Otherwise power coating is adding way more damage on average I'd think.

[dgresevfan]

Messaggio originale di Soren:

Messaggio originale di The Debauchery:

Can definitely confirm that Bow is insanely powerful... doubly so if it is a Water Bow with Pierce Coatings against Gravios (basically the most unbalanced match-up ever).

Eh, I heard elemental damage does not apply to wings or the head. So it probably has a good match up with piercing coating specifically. But piercing coating only has synergy with select monsters like Gravios and Uth Duna. Otherwise power coating is adding way more damage on average I'd think.

How about blast coating? Anything it won't work against?

[Informality]

Messaggio originale di dgresevfan:

Messaggio originale di Soren:

Eh, I heard elemental damage does not apply to wings or the head. So it probably has a good match up with piercing coating specifically. But piercing coating only has synergy with select monsters like Gravios and Uth Duna. Otherwise power coating is adding way more damage on average I'd think.

How about blast coating? Anything it won't work against?

If you look at your Monster guide, you can see what types and damage work best against which monsters as well as which ones they don't work with at all

[dgresevfan]

Messaggio originale di Informality:

Messaggio originale di dgresevfan:

How about blast coating? Anything it won't work against?

If you look at your Monster guide, you can see what types and damage work best against which monsters as well as which ones they don't work with at all

Only when you've found that information against the monster. I was wondering about those I haven't encountered yet.

Also, how does monster research even work now? There are no monster tracks to find unlike in World.

[Niwoh]

Messaggio originale di Asher:

Messaggio originale di Lynsis:

the ranged weapons will usually have the lower dmg cause you're trading the dmg for the safety of ranged combat.

Nothing safe about having to stand at arms length to the target to even do optimal damage. Bows have always sucked period. No sane person will ever just main a bow.

Bro, bows have always been a very popular speedrun weapon and for good reason, they just keep getting stronger and stronger and wilds is no different and also yes, being able to stand a little bit further away than melee weapons actually does make bow a whole lot safer, you can generally position yourself in such a way that a monster cannot hit you without moving first, while still being within critical distance.

[Fraktal]

Yes bow sucks so hard

https://youtu.be/DWrsq1w6Ygg?si=fv6aloaT8Ae5W6cC

[Smokey]

Messaggio originale di Niwoh:

Messaggio originale di Asher:

Nothing safe about having to stand at arms length to the target to even do optimal damage. Bows have always sucked period. No sane person will ever just main a bow.

Bro, bows have always been a very popular speedrun weapon and for good reason, they just keep getting stronger and stronger and wilds is no different and also yes, being able to stand a little bit further away than melee weapons actually does make bow a whole lot safer, you can generally position yourself in such a way that a monster cannot hit you without moving first, while still being within critical distance.

You can anticipate moves much better,you have a much better view of the entire scene and the move he's about to make. Damage is easier negated when you can actually see whats about to happen. Bow feels much better to play with as in world I feel where I got often locked into an animation and couldnt change aim direction anymore neither. The auto lock with tracers also feels really good.

[Sadacchi]

Messaggio originale di Asher:

Nothing safe about having to stand at arms length to the target to even do optimal damage. Bows have always sucked period. No sane person will ever just main a bow.

That's some DSP-caliber logic. Don't need to be " at arms length " to do optimal damage, so stop using close range coatings. The continuous damage from arc shot to apply tracers, then abusing focus strike targets all tracers applied from arc shot when there are no weak points to abuse.

Using Tracers with thousand dragons is good too. I am finding myself out DPSing people I'm playing with especially as I can keep DPS up on the move and have very little downtime. Saying bows suck only proves how bad your are at the game.

[This PC]

am curious to see what people have to say about this - I've played LBG for a long time, started as support on mhfu but learned how to damage with them with time, and well, I was underwhelmed by them on world and switched to duals, now am playing LBG and I get the feeling it's rather op ? What's the general feeling on LBG's ?

[Lamiosa]

You are doing something wrong @OP. You can do some heavy damage from afar with dragon piercer, if the boss does not focus you. If you are close, you can do some normal shots and do evasion with sidestepts, for a larger evasion do a flying swallow shot after that. On top of that you can easily do some focus fire on weakspots, without having to get close to wounds.

[Carnatux]

using my power shot and hitting for like 30-40 on weak spots 3 to 5 times per shot is nice and can be done in rapid succession and with discerning dodge getting hit isn't even an issue it just empowers us even more!