Extreme Bad Optimization

[Berserk89IT]

I don't understand how you can launch a game in this state, even with a 5080 you can't make it run well. I'm speechless, I ask the developers to intervene immediately, it's almost unplayable. I've never seen textures as bad as these, it looks like a PS3 game.

[2D神]

My guess is Capcom need to released this by fiscal year. It's clear it need like another 6 months or so in the oven.

[Arestris]

Strange ... 120+ FPS on Ultra, with Raytracing and Highres texture pack ... I do something wrong *ROFL*

[Romano338]

They do it because people will buy and then be boned. It works every game.

[This PC]

what's your definition of "run well" ?

I run it super stable with a 4070ti at 1440p without frame gen
https://youtu.be/WYVTs1rfkSw?si=pg8UKEDtdU2Hv-E-
this is before I updated my directstorage DLL's, runs even better now x_x

[Ettanin]

Originally posted by Berserk89IT:

I don't understand how you can launch a game in this state, even with a 5080 you can't make it run well. I'm speechless, I ask the developers to intervene immediately, it's almost unplayable. I've never seen textures as bad as these, it looks like a PS3 game.

If you don't have any of the following:
Intel 11th gen (12th gen and up doesn't support AVX512)
AMD Zen 4 or 5
You're out of luck no matter how good your GPU is.

The game's engine uses AVX512 instructions which isn't supported on recent end-user Intel CPUs and therefore needs emulation via software, which results in degraded performance.

[This PC]

Originally posted by Ettanin:

Originally posted by Berserk89IT:

I don't understand how you can launch a game in this state, even with a 5080 you can't make it run well. I'm speechless, I ask the developers to intervene immediately, it's almost unplayable. I've never seen textures as bad as these, it looks like a PS3 game.

If you don't have any of the following:
Intel 11th gen (12th gen and up doesn't support AVX512)
AMD Zen 4 or 5
You're out of luck no matter how good your GPU is.

The game's engine uses AVX512 instructions which isn't supported on recent end-user Intel CPUs and therefore needs emulation via software, which results in degraded performance.

that's interesting info, can you cite source ?

[Ettanin]

Originally posted by This PC:

Originally posted by Ettanin:

If you don't have any of the following:
Intel 11th gen (12th gen and up doesn't support AVX512)
AMD Zen 4 or 5
You're out of luck no matter how good your GPU is.

The game's engine uses AVX512 instructions which isn't supported on recent end-user Intel CPUs and therefore needs emulation via software, which results in degraded performance.

that's interesting info, can you cite source ?

Ettanin@Ettanin_Dus /cygdrive/c/Program Files (x86)/Steam/steamapps/common/MonsterHunterWildsBenchmark
$ objdump -d MonsterHunterWilds.exe | grep %zmm0
14008f8ac: 62 f1 b1 c0 e4 84 ab vpmulhuw 0x6bf48144(%rbx,%r21,4),%zmm25,%zmm0{bad}
1401b3f9e: f3 48 62 fe e1 c3 97 repz rex.W vfmsubadd132p{bad} (%r16),%zmm19,%zmm0{%k3}{z}
1401eca75: 62 99 fd dd 59 b4 66 vmulpd 0x41ec25cc(%r30,%r12,2){1to8},%zmm0,%zmm6{%k5}{z}
140387c0e: 62 b2 b3 c1 52 43 9e vp4dpws{bad}d -0x620(%rbx),%zmm25,%zmm0{%k1}{z}
1404c74b2: 62 1a fd 3c 11 ca vpsravw {rd-bad},%zmm26,%zmm0,%zmm9{%k4}
1406804cc: 62 b2 b5 c8 0b c2 vpmulhrsw %zmm18,%zmm9,%zmm0{bad}
140718df3: 62 ba 1b c2 da 85 b8 vsm4rnds4 0x176364b8(%r21),%zmm28,%zmm0{%k2}{z}
14074deef: 62 e1 7d bc ef d0 vpxord {rd-bad},%zmm0,%zmm0,%zmm18{%k4}{z}
1407b78bb: 62 aa 79 db 66 85 95 vpblendmb -0x7908fc6b(%r21){1to16},%zmm0,%zmm16{%k3}{z}
1407b849b: 62 d1 11 dd ec 06 vpaddsb (%r14){1to16},%zmm13,%zmm0{%k5}{z}
1408cdcd6: 62 bd 20 4f 5d 45 3c vminph 0xf00(%r21),%zmm11,%zmm0{%k7}
1408dfa63: 62 e6 7d cb ac d0 vfnmadd213ph %zmm0,%zmm0,%zmm18{%k3}{z}
1409f8cbf: 42 62 f2 57 4d 51 f8 rex.X vpdpbssds %zmm0,%zmm5,%zmm7{%k5}
140c4b6ee: 62 a2 79 59 aa 1c 98 vfmsub213ps (%rax,%r27,4){1to16},%zmm0,%zmm19{%k1}
140c8659c: 62 fd fb c9 1b 56 af vcvt2p{bad}2hf8s -0x1440(%r22),%zmm0,%zmm2{%k1}{z}
140d9bf02: 62 d6 e8 5c ac 85 98 vfnmadd213{bad} -0x123a2568(%r13){1to32},%zmm2,%zmm0{%k4}
140fad32f: 62 f2 a5 d9 df 06 vaesdeclast (%rsi){1to8},%zmm11,%zmm0{%k1}{z}/(bad)
1410047bf: 62 ab 7d 5a 03 0f 98 valignd $0x98,(%r23){1to16},%zmm0,%zmm17{%k2}
14110ecaa: 62 b2 f9 4d 11 6e 2e vpsravw 0xb80(%rsi),%zmm0,%zmm5{%k5}
141219dad: 62 b9 51 c3 69 47 b7 vpunpckhwd -0x1240(%r23),%zmm21,%zmm0{%k3}{z}
141282b75: 62 ba 65 5c 45 80 f1 vpsrlvd -0x69cbef0f(%r16){1to16},%zmm3,%zmm0{%k4}
1414378d7: 62 7d 79 5f 58 73 ee vaddbf16 -0x24(%r19){1to32},%zmm0,%zmm14{%k7}
1414ef904: 62 92 39 df ba 45 39 vfmsub231ps 0xe4(%r13){1to16},%zmm8,%zmm0{%k7}{z}
1415cecfc: 62 d1 19 d8 e5 43 0a vpmulhw 0x28(%r11){1to16},%zmm12,%zmm0{bad}
1417fa9d4: 62 71 24 47 54 c8 vandps %zmm0,%zmm27,%zmm9{%k7}
141842124: 62 91 05 49 f1 82 13 vpsllw 0x6deb8213(%r10),%zmm15,%zmm0{%k1}
1418e2268: 62 d2 f9 58 45 72 42 vpsrlvq 0x210(%r10){1to8},%zmm0,%zmm6
1418ef86b: 62 b3 79 dc 38 3f 98 vinserti32x4 $0x98,(%rdi){bad},%zmm0,%zmm7{%k4}{z}
1418f712e: 62 91 54 d7 5d c1 vminps {sae},%zmm25,%zmm21,%zmm0{%k7}{z}
14199e7de: 62 b9 f9 5c 60 b8 61 vpunpcklbw -0x1bc24e9f(%r16){1to8},%zmm0,%zmm7{%k4}
141a8ef1c: 62 4a fd d9 3f 1b vpmaxuq (%r27){1to8},%zmm0,%zmm27{%k1}{z}
141ad9c02: 62 91 e5 d2 69 85 14 vpunpckhwd 0x55535814(%r13){1to8},%zmm19,%zmm0{%k2}{z}
141c9f316: 62 eb 79 c9 0f 28 d2 vpalignr $0xd2,(%r16),%zmm0,%zmm21{%k1}{z}
141d87266: 62 fe fd 49 97 7d 2b vfmsubadd132p{bad} 0xac0(%r21),%zmm0,%zmm7{%k1}
141d9bf69: 4d 62 f3 cd fc 71 f8 rex.WRB vpshldq {rz-bad},$0xd0,%zmm0,%zmm6,%zmm7{%k4}{z}
141e393f3: 48 62 fa 2c fc d2 c4 rex.W vpdpwuud {rz-bad},%zmm4,%zmm10,%zmm0{%k4}{z}
141e676e7: 62 d5 7d 4f 5d 8e 49 vminbf16 0x5502d349(%r14),%zmm0,%zmm1{%k7}
141fc2d7f: 62 d9 81 57 d4 01 vpaddq (%r25){1to8},%zmm31,%zmm0{%k7}
14201bf0d: 62 99 78 c2 5e 06 vdivps (%r30),%zmm16,%zmm0{%k2}{z}
142244535: 62 dd 7c 5c 5c 10 vsubph (%r24){1to32},%zmm0,%zmm2{%k4}
1422e101d: 62 62 9d c0 73 d8 vpshrdvq %zmm0,%zmm28,%zmm27{bad}
1422f2720: 62 51 fd d9 67 b2 2b vpackuswb 0x6686322b(%r10){1to8},%zmm0,%zmm14{%k1}{z}
1425b0d12: 41 62 66 78 ce 98 4c rex.B vfmadd132bf16 0x1680(%rbp,%r19,2),%zmm0,%zmm25{%k6}{z}
1425cb7db: 62 39 fd dd d8 b5 1a vpsubusb 0x76b6a61a(%r21){1to8},%zmm0,%zmm14{%k5}{z}
1427997e9: 4b 62 e1 a5 97 df d0 rex.WXB vpandnq {rn-bad},%zmm0,%zmm27,%zmm18{%k7}{z}
14287c74f: 62 ed fc 99 5e d3 vdivp{bad} {rn-sae},%zmm3,%zmm0,%zmm18{%k1}{z}
14293078f: 62 f3 7d df 1e 06 a0 vpcmpud $0xa0,(%rsi){1to16},%zmm0,%k0{%k7}{z}/(bad)
1429d8939: 62 7a 7d fd 39 f6 vpminsd {rz-bad},%zmm6,%zmm0,%zmm14{%k5}{z}
142ae7a61: 62 4d fb c8 1b 12 vcvt2p{bad}2hf8s (%r26),%zmm0,%zmm26{bad}
142b05151: 62 d9 59 53 dc 80 35 vpaddusb -0x67b80fcb(%r24){1to16},%zmm20,%zmm0{%k3}
14a72674e: 62 d2 fb ce 68 43 78 vp2intersectq 0x1e00(%r11),%zmm0,%k0{%k6}{z}/(bad)
14a7d81fe: 4d 62 3e f9 4a 9e 12 rex.WRB vfnmsub132p{bad} (%r18),%zmm0,%zmm10{%k2}
14a81ee2c: 62 62 f9 ce de 87 10 vaesdec -0x6b0a20f0(%rdi),%zmm0,%zmm24{%k6}{z}/(bad)
14aafda47: 62 b9 fd da 6c 92 10 vpunpcklqdq 0x313c1e10(%r18){1to8},%zmm0,%zmm2{%k2}{z}
14b79750a: 62 2a 79 5e 0b 80 fe vpmulhrsw 0x1b6ffdfe(%r16){1to16},%zmm0,%zmm24{%k6}
14b843996: 62 b2 ed 49 66 06 vpblendmw (%rsi),%zmm2,%zmm0{%k1}
14b9e9e45: 62 b6 19 c3 9c 03 vfnmadd132ph (%rbx),%zmm28,%zmm0{%k3}{z}
14ba8ec57: 62 da dd 53 28 07 vpmuldq (%r31){1to8},%zmm20,%zmm0{%k3}
14bcea0ec: 62 9e 55 c5 ba 05 95 vfmsub231ph 0xe49a095(%rip),%zmm21,%zmm0{%k5}{z} # 0x15a18418b
14bcf1262: 62 b3 c5 c1 71 40 ae vpshldq $0x19,-0x1480(%rax),%zmm23,%zmm0{%k1}{z}
14c03828a: 62 9a 31 c5 df 86 89 vaesdeclast 0x2a2a9e89(%r30),%zmm25,%zmm0{%k5}{z}/(bad)
14c0f3aa4: 62 f9 dd 5b 60 07 vpunpcklbw (%r23){1to8},%zmm4,%zmm0{%k3}
14c12026b: d5 0b 62 a6 fc ce b8 {rex2 0xb} vfmadd231{bad} -0x1f00(%rbp),%zmm0,%zmm21{%k6}{z}
14c1443cd: 62 91 7d df f2 42 75 vpslld 0x750(%r10){bad},%zmm0,%zmm0{%k7}{z}
14c2aaba6: 62 42 fd c9 dd 52 b6 vaesenclast -0x1280(%r10),%zmm0,%zmm26{%k1}{z}/(bad)
14c41f01a: f3 62 81 fd 49 da ed repz vpminub %zmm29,%zmm0,%zmm21{%k1}
14c4e27a8: 62 f2 fd cf 9c ee vfnmadd132pd %zmm6,%zmm0,%zmm5{%k7}{z}
14c51fd77: 62 f1 55 d6 dc c5 vpaddusb {ru-bad},%zmm5,%zmm21,%zmm0{%k6}{z}
14c55cbf6: 62 e2 05 c2 b6 d8 vfmaddsub231ps %zmm0,%zmm31,%zmm19{%k2}{z}
14c62e4fa: 62 b5 f0 5d 5f 07 vmaxp{bad} (%rdi){1to32},%zmm1,%zmm0{%k5}
14c8100e0: 62 32 7d 3c b7 c5 vfmsubadd231ps {rd-sae},%zmm21,%zmm0,%zmm8{%k4}
14cc3cc8a: 62 f6 8d c5 b6 05 8b vfmaddsub231p{bad} -0x17b3fa75(%rip),%zmm30,%zmm0{%k5}{z} # 0x1350fd21f
14cc4513a: 62 92 fd 5c 3b b3 89 vpminuq -0x26dd7e77(%r11){1to8},%zmm0,%zmm6{%k4}
14cc4999c: 62 b1 fd dc eb 1d 5e vporq 0x40ba6a5e(%rip){1to8},%zmm0,%zmm3{%k4}{z} # 0x18d7f0404
14cd6ac65: 62 fd 89 c8 5f 44 fa vmax{bad} -0x1c40(%r18,%r23,8),%zmm14,%zmm0{bad}
14ce9b1a9: 62 3e 79 da 2c 27 vscalefph (%r23){1to32},%zmm0,%zmm12{%k2}{z}
14d173576: 62 2e fa 4d 56 1c 43 vfmaddcp{bad} (%r19,%r24,2),%zmm0,%zmm27{%k5}
14d2ab14e: 62 7a fd 5f 97 43 1b vfmsubadd132pd 0xd8(%r19){1to8},%zmm0,%zmm8{%k7}
14d2f373c: 62 0a 7d 5b 76 29 vpermi2d (%r25){1to16},%zmm0,%zmm29{%k3}
1513201e1: 62 32 79 5f a6 ae 52 vfmaddsub213ps 0x5406b452(%rsi){1to16},%zmm0,%zmm13{%k7}
152465b2c: d5 17 62 c9 7c 4c 5e {rex2 0x17} vdivps 0x50931497(%r29),%zmm0,%zmm23{%k4}
152555375: 62 de f9 4a b8 0a vfmadd231p{bad} (%r26),%zmm0,%zmm1{%k2}
1525c09bb: 62 e9 25 77 fa e0 vpsubd {rz-bad},%zmm0,%zmm27,%zmm20{%k7}
1525d115d: 62 d2 0d c4 53 02 vpdpwssds (%r10),%zmm30,%zmm0{%k4}{z}

https://stackoverflow.com/questions/52008788/dynamically-determining-where-a-rogue-avx-512-instruction-is-executing

Anything that uses zmm0 is AVX512.

[Klisk]

Originally posted by Ettanin:

Originally posted by Berserk89IT:

I don't understand how you can launch a game in this state, even with a 5080 you can't make it run well. I'm speechless, I ask the developers to intervene immediately, it's almost unplayable. I've never seen textures as bad as these, it looks like a PS3 game.

If you don't have any of the following:
Intel 11th gen (12th gen and up doesn't support AVX512)
AMD Zen 4 or 5
You're out of luck no matter how good your GPU is.

The game's engine uses AVX512 instructions which isn't supported on recent end-user Intel CPUs and therefore needs emulation via software, which results in degraded performance.

It's random, honestly.

I have a Ryzen 7 7700x. 32gb ram. RX 3070 GPU. Pretty good stuff.

I'm getting like 38fps on the lowest preset with frame generation on. 1080p.

It's not just about specs. The game just sort of works for some people and doesn't for others.

[Resalius...]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHdLKoK52YI&t=864s

I got a 4090 and i wait until it runs better....
He got a 9800x3d and a 4090 (4k)
Native: 40-50FPS
DLSS isnt rly better with good FPS drops

[beussta]

Originally posted by Arestris:

Strange ... 120+ FPS on Ultra, with Raytracing and Highres texture pack ... I do something wrong *ROFL*

same for me with a 7800x3D and a ROG STRIX 4080 SUPER but the game is still pretty ugly, lot of random drop of FPS, and the colours are so dull, textures are lame... lot of games are more beautifull and dont need so much ressources

[This PC]

Originally posted by Ettanin:

...

checks out, thanks for your time friend!

[This PC]

Originally posted by Resalius...:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHdLKoK52YI&t=864s

I got a 4090 and i wait until it runs better....
He got a 9800x3d and a 4090 (4k)
Native: 40-50FPS
DLSS isnt rly better with good FPS drops

updating my directstorage DLL's in the game folder fixed framedrops for me
am running up to 70fps at 1440p on a 4070ti super and a 5600x, am cpu bottlenecking, if I uncap fps my whole computer slows down except the game lol.

[DaddiesLoad]

It runs great on a 4090, not sure how you're struggling with a 5080

[Ettanin]

Originally posted by DaddiesLoad:

It runs great on a 4090, not sure how you're struggling with a 5080

Probably Intel CPU, see above why

[Orca]

Originally posted by This PC:

what's your definition of "run well" ?

I run it super stable with a 4070ti at 1440p without frame gen
https://youtu.be/WYVTs1rfkSw?si=pg8UKEDtdU2Hv-E-
this is before I updated my directstorage DLL's, runs even better now x_x

That frame time graph is atrocious considering your gpu is not maxing out at all