Switch Axe thoughts topic

[Omega prime clearance]

so they gave it a useless counter.......great.......amazing

I'm not happy.

this new counter in axe mode is so unpractical it might as well not exist , meanwhile LS basically plays itself, has the best features and once again it's the best weapon in the game and puts the game in EZ mode

in Rise they actually fixed which was always the biggest problem with SA , LACK OF DEFENCE, and with the elemental burst counter you could stand your ground against incoming attacks and you weren't forced to run away every time a monster did anything

but now all that is gone, because they gave SA a useless counter so it's back to square one

it really shows to me that the Wilds team has no idea what they're doing with SA... they really don't.


as a SA main I'm NOT happy here.

[Nonexistinghero]

No, he's not talking about the offset upswing. He's talking about the forward + B/Circle attack, which used to be forward + Y/triangle in previous games. It covers less distance than in World and Rise and reaches lower as well. Though the lunge you're talking about is also a downgrade in terms of reach.

I think the counter in sword mode is pretty terrible. I have no idea how to get it to work consistently. Half the time my character either puts her weapon away or does the regular Y/triangle attack. Making it a 2 button combination where one of the buttons puts the weapons away if slightly mistimed is just poor design. And I feel like that was done on purpose by someone who very well knew it was bad and still decided to do it because he hates the people who use the weapon.

[Eppie]

I use the counter (circle+triangle in axe) constantly, its sick when you time it right. Skill issue?

[Nonexistinghero]

That's an offset, not a counter. Only sword mode has a counter. I specifically mentioned that, you would know that if you read the post.

[Caramel_Clown]

Originally posted by TeaVice:

I wanted to learn the Swaxe but the design of it discouraged me from using the axe mode, which is what I want in a Switch "AXE" weapon, because I love Axes.
But no, they actively encourage you to switch to the sword mode instead for higher damage.

So anyways, I'm sticking to SnS.

Key word is switch here I think, not specifically an axe. It's a weapon that requires switching forms. Otherwise it'd just be...an axe. On the plus side there's an sns with axe, and at least one or two hammers. So you can cosplay.

[Dreams of Fury]

Dude the axe-mode off-set is stupid easy to use if you know the monsters, the counter in sword mode even easier....

Go play hammer and try to use its offset intentionally, then go back to swaxe, you wont complain again, trust me.

I say that as a hammer main that picked up the swaxe today out of boredom and now I'm highly considering it being my main for the rest of the game including master rank.

[Memento Vivere]

It's easy enough to do an offset attack with the axe if you know patterns of monsters. And it's an easy way to gain a lot of energy for blade mode. Dunno what you're talking about.

[palacentes]

Originally posted by Nonexistinghero:

No, he's not talking about the offset upswing. He's talking about the forward + B/Circle attack, which used to be forward + Y/triangle in previous games. It covers less distance than in World and Rise and reaches lower as well. Though the lunge you're talking about is also a downgrade in terms of reach.

I think the counter in sword mode is pretty terrible. I have no idea how to get it to work consistently. Half the time my character either puts her weapon away or does the regular Y/triangle attack. Making it a 2 button combination where one of the buttons puts the weapons away if slightly mistimed is just poor design. And I feel like that was done on purpose by someone who very well knew it was bad and still decided to do it because he hates the people who use the weapon.

sword counter is easy. the timing is when the hunter moves the sword and seems to block with it. Its very soon. Almost a moment of impact thing, as if you are perfect blocking. But slightly earlier. If its timed with the slash, thats a fail. That slash is just some small damage incase you miss the counter, so its not a complete waste.

axe offset is prepare in advance or prepare ahead. You prob have to dodge if you are reacting to an attack that is already in motion.

sword is more reactive, the right time is much sooner. Its possible to shift to it if the monster is dumping a slow slam. Tho its not like dual blade perfect dodge kind of instant.

This one, the counter isnt for dmg. They are more of ultility and preparing the way for unbridled slash. Switch axe feels like a charge blade kind of.... its excellent imo.

I just wish they buffed wild strikes and made it become a super axe move. At least the wild strikes into sword mode combo feels stronger and seems to be buffed by rapid morph now.

[Mr Smiley]

I think it's in the best state it's ever been in. I'm spending way more time in sword mode - thanks trigger + Y

[Treyen]

SA is good. This isn't a shooter or some ♥♥♥♥ anyway. Weapons do not need to be balanced against each other.

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by llc123:

ls was never the best weapon you complete idiot

Was easy mode in world and rise... could mount and heal in world so didn't get dismounted.

Still not the best as always hbg is best

[Scipo0419]

Originally posted by Dreams of Fury:

Dude the axe-mode off-set is stupid easy to use if you know the monsters, the counter in sword mode even easier....

Go play hammer and try to use its offset intentionally, then go back to swaxe, you wont complain again, trust me.

I say that as a hammer main that picked up the swaxe today out of boredom and now I'm highly considering it being my main for the rest of the game including master rank.

The only issue I have with the Sword Counter is that it being tied to RT has caused me to morph instead of counter. It's not a consistent problem, but I've carted because of it.

[hainami]

SwagAxe has two counters. Uprising Swing will knock the monster down and allow for a free followup or a massive charge to sword mode(hard to time for beginners), and another one in Sword mode that negates all damage and gives you a MASSIVE damage hit (almost instant and can be used anytime in a combo), and can combo into other moves.

So if that's not enough defensive moves for you, I don't know what else to tell you. I've been literally wombo combo juggling most monsters around. Even Arkveld's claws can be smacked back.

[The Fraudulent One]

Originally posted by llc123:

ls was never the best weapon you complete idiot

Yeah people need to realize that LS has never once ever better better then Bowgun lol

[vonbolt21]

Originally posted by Fallschirmjäger:

I think it's in the best state it's ever been in. I'm spending way more time in sword mode - thanks trigger + Y

The best state switch axe has ever been in was frontier.

[IGull]

Originally posted by Dreams of Fury:

Dude the axe-mode off-set is stupid easy to use if you know the monsters, the counter in sword mode even easier....

Go play hammer and try to use its offset intentionally, then go back to swaxe, you wont complain again, trust me.

I say that as a hammer main that picked up the swaxe today out of boredom and now I'm highly considering it being my main for the rest of the game including master rank.

Okay to be fair I main Switch Axe and I still have an easier time using Hammer's offset than Switch Axe's lmao.