Trans characters in game

[elq]

Just got to the jungle part. There's literally a "woman" named Erik who goes by he/him pronouns. Wtf is this trash? I'm sure there will be even more of this nonsense when the story progresses further.

[Charlemagne]

Publicado originalmente por elq:

Publicado originalmente por Avatar of Prince Cera:

How do we know what gender you actually are without you getting your chromosomes tested?

We don't. Why should you know what gender am I? Again, how does that relate to the fact that it is defined by chromosomes? We aren't debating about my gender if you couldn't notice, but about the biological fact of how it's determined.

Is troglodyte the answer?

[Mr2Thumbs]

Publicado originalmente por Oku:

Publicado originalmente por elq:

Yes, I did say that chromosomes determine gender, because they do. You giving examples of people who think they're gender is something else than what is determined by their chromosomes does not really prove anything. It's like me saying "Hey, this man has X and Y chromosomes, but he paints his nails, so now chromosomes dont determine the gender anymore!"

You can have XY chromosomes but have hormonal insensitivities that cause you to develop a functional uterus and you'd never know you had XY chromosomes unless you specifically got tested to see what chromosomes you have. Same with the reverse. The Olympics used to test for chromosomes until so many men who had fathered children were found to have XX chromosomes that they stopped because it was causing problems.

The reason science started referring to sex in humans as bimodal instead of binary isn't because of "gender ideology" or "wokeness", it's because the human body is so complex that basic ♥♥♥♥ you teach children (shocker) isn't the entire story.

So no, chromosomes don't determine gender. They influence biological makeup but are simple one piece of a much larger, more complex puzzle than you're comfortable wrapping your head around.

Exactly what I've been trying to say. These people have never taken a science class after sixth grade and it shows. We learned about intersex and chromosomal abnormalities in high school.

[Dude]

Publicado originalmente por Charlemagne:

Publicado originalmente por Dude:

ad hominem the losers last resort

I mean, you haven't answered a single person's question and repeatedly insulted others with personal attacks that were of the 3rd grade level. At least that comment is 5th to 6th grade material. I know its foreign, but its clear you capped in the 3rd.

i said your numbers are wrong and proved it (look it up youself if you want too) the argument was already over and you were wrong.

what i did is called "rubing salt in someones wound"

you really fail at everything

[Aiyus]

tfw femboy makes "men" question their sexuality.

[Freak4Leeks]

This is priceless.

[elq]

Publicado originalmente por Oku:

Publicado originalmente por elq:

Yes, I did say that chromosomes determine gender, because they do. You giving examples of people who think they're gender is something else than what is determined by their chromosomes does not really prove anything. It's like me saying "Hey, this man has X and Y chromosomes, but he paints his nails, so now chromosomes dont determine the gender anymore!"

You can have XY chromosomes but have hormonal insensitivities that cause you to develop a functional uterus and you'd never know you had XY chromosomes unless you specifically got tested to see what chromosomes you have. Same with the reverse. The Olympics used to test for chromosomes until so many men who had fathered children were found to have XX chromosomes that they stopped because it was causing problems.

The reason science started referring to sex in humans as bimodal instead of binary isn't because of "gender ideology" or "wokeness", it's because the human body is so complex that basic ♥♥♥♥ you teach children (shocker) isn't the entire story.

So no, chromosomes don't determine gender. They influence biological makeup but are simple one piece of a much larger, more complex puzzle than you're comfortable wrapping your head around.

Care to list me a couple male olympics who were tested for XX chromosomes? The policy regarding chromosome testing wasn't changed due to "men having XX chromosomes" but because of the stupid gender policies you defend.

[Googledebunker]

Just wait until OP figures out that on average men have 40 picograms per milliliter of estrogen in their system with only 75 picograms of testosterone per milliliter.

[elq]

Publicado originalmente por Avatar of Prince Cera:

Just wait until OP figures out that on average men have 40 picograms per milliliter of estrogen in their system with only 75 picograms of testosterone per milliliter.

Wow, another reply that has nothing to do with anything thats being debated! Keep em coming.

[Googledebunker]

Publicado originalmente por elq:

Publicado originalmente por Avatar of Prince Cera:

How do we know what gender you actually are without you getting your chromosomes tested?

We don't. Why should you know what gender am I? Again, how does that relate to the fact that it is defined by chromosomes? We aren't debating about my gender if you couldn't notice, but about the biological fact of how it's determined.

Why does it matter what a transgender persons chromosomes are? Seems pretty hypocritical to hold them to a higher standard over something that you don't seem to care about.

You might be XX and not even know it.

[Corvus Tenebris]

Publicado originalmente por elq:

Publicado originalmente por Oku:

You can have XY chromosomes but have hormonal insensitivities that cause you to develop a functional uterus and you'd never know you had XY chromosomes unless you specifically got tested to see what chromosomes you have. Same with the reverse. The Olympics used to test for chromosomes until so many men who had fathered children were found to have XX chromosomes that they stopped because it was causing problems.

The reason science started referring to sex in humans as bimodal instead of binary isn't because of "gender ideology" or "wokeness", it's because the human body is so complex that basic ♥♥♥♥ you teach children (shocker) isn't the entire story.

So no, chromosomes don't determine gender. They influence biological makeup but are simple one piece of a much larger, more complex puzzle than you're comfortable wrapping your head around.

Care to list me a couple male olympics who were tested for XX chromosomes? The policy regarding chromosome testing wasn't changed due to "men having XX chromosomes" but because of the stupid gender policies you defend.

Then you agree, gender isn't determined by chromosomes. How could you know a "male" athlete is "male" unless you knew his chromosomes if that's how you determine gender?

Try not to short circuit on this one.

[dan]

Publicado originalmente por Mr2Thumbs:

Publicado originalmente por CrewsAider:

nah ! i say chop off all the bits our gender studies professors tell us to.
Sir, Mam... Xirs I don't know what you are trying to prove but we ain't rolling like that.

You see.... the modus operandi for the screeching far left ideologically compromised regarding THIS game is like this:

- it's not woke / it is so what?
- you called it WOKE so you identified identity politics inserted -> proceeds to name calling
- has the "mouse icon",is invested in the game so fallacy of sunken costs: I MUST DEFEND PRODUCT! PRODUCT CATERS TO ME
- brings up 2021 talking points: "yeah and how does that AFFECT YOU" ,"rainbow people just want to exist"
- tried and failed gaslighting: it's not happening /it is and that's a good thing

We adapted to these old tactics. And calling out for censorship, calling us names and associating US ALL that do not fall in line with your dead ideology to an Austrian painter...NO LONGER WORKS.
Learn new tricks!

No, I associate you with an Austrian painter because you vote for people who throw up Austrian painter salutes and cheer when they do them.

Um there is literally an ongoing genocide in Palestine RIGHT NOW and you're fighting culture wars on videogame forums and calling people "n*zis"? Nice priorities

[Poadiup]

damn based

[Corvus Tenebris]

Publicado originalmente por dan:

Publicado originalmente por Mr2Thumbs:

No, I associate you with an Austrian painter because you vote for people who throw up Austrian painter salutes and cheer when they do them.

Um there is literally an ongoing genocide in Palestine RIGHT NOW and you're fighting culture wars on videogame forums and calling people "n*zis"? Nice priorities

The Nazis went after queer people first too. It's an apt comparison.

[Oku]

Publicado originalmente por elq:

Publicado originalmente por Oku:

You can have XY chromosomes but have hormonal insensitivities that cause you to develop a functional uterus and you'd never know you had XY chromosomes unless you specifically got tested to see what chromosomes you have. Same with the reverse. The Olympics used to test for chromosomes until so many men who had fathered children were found to have XX chromosomes that they stopped because it was causing problems.

The reason science started referring to sex in humans as bimodal instead of binary isn't because of "gender ideology" or "wokeness", it's because the human body is so complex that basic ♥♥♥♥ you teach children (shocker) isn't the entire story.

So no, chromosomes don't determine gender. They influence biological makeup but are simple one piece of a much larger, more complex puzzle than you're comfortable wrapping your head around.

Care to list me a couple male olympics who were tested for XX chromosomes? The policy regarding chromosome testing wasn't changed due to "men having XX chromosomes" but because of the stupid gender policies you defend.

Sure but you're going to have to pay me for my time. I don't get dragged down the "provide a bulleted list of every single thing that has ever existed that supports the proven fact I'm claiming is a lie or it's not real" rabbit hole without compensation.

[Sakura Futaba]

bait used to be believable