What minimum CPU is enough to run the game without bottlenecking

[milk]

The question is only fo AMD users.
So, I've got r5 5600g (with RTX 3060 12gb and it fine as I understood) and it's not enough to play with stable 60 fps without using FG. I'd like to update my CPU, but any AM5 with x3d cash is a bit expensive just to buy it for one game (I don't care about new games, this one is the only game I was waiting for)
Do you know what amd CPU on AM4 would be better, maybe you're using one right now.
I know, it is silly to upgrade just to play one game but I think I'll spend lots of hours in Wilds.

[DDENN]

Publicado originalmente por Níðhöggr:

5700x3D or 5800x3D if your motherboard is compatible. You wll gain in any games thanks to the 3D V cache.

check this spreadsheet and compare results with people with same GPU but better CPU: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kvCL6cRc8BZf5hkXQwSKiStXLoQm3vB8J8NKCRh6nLY/htmlview#

x3d not recommend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqYAHT8XCtI

[Khergit Horse Archer]

Publicado originalmente por DDENN:

Publicado originalmente por Níðhöggr:

5700x3D or 5800x3D if your motherboard is compatible. You wll gain in any games thanks to the 3D V cache.

check this spreadsheet and compare results with people with same GPU but better CPU: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1kvCL6cRc8BZf5hkXQwSKiStXLoQm3vB8J8NKCRh6nLY/htmlview#

x3d not recommend
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqYAHT8XCtI

das cuz the gpu is the limiting factor its still better than non-x3d

3080/ti is not that stronk anymoar and i shud know cuz im using 1

[这真是地狱]

Publicado originalmente por Khergit Horse Archer:

Publicado originalmente por 这真是地狱:

Its not expensive for performance, if you have second graphics card (integrated will be enough). It take the load off from your main GPU for frame gen, and use for it the second card (but it should be connected to monitor, and game should be in any "border" mode).

idk how you and the other guy is testing this but from my experience it looks the same to me but i can see artifacts like shimmering much worst around the hud elements as well as corners of the screens from LS.

as for actual fps difference i can't really tell them apart tbh

In some cases it works not good. For example, if you have only one GPU, and the load on it is close to the maximum in game. Or if you have some old integrated graphics card, that cant generate new frames, because too hard for it. In my case, I have i7-12650H and "3060 Laptop", and program works great. If i generate from 30, or 45 - it looks like 60 (with some little artifacts, but it looks fine, at all) or 90 (that looks perfect). And with gamepad it will be great expiriense.

[milk]

Publicado originalmente por Little Strawberry:

Doesn't exist, because the game was designed for "Processor: Intel® Core™ i5-10400 or Intel® Core™ i3-12100 or AMD Ryzen™ 5 3600", aimed at 30 FPS (60 FPS with FG). The recommended specs are in almost all cases the dev test platforms, so this was calculated. The actual bottleneck is the engine, which was never improved despite Capcom knowing how bad it was on DD2 (and still is because it hasn't been patched). I think they were aiming for above 18 fps during fights in their optimization process, but that's it. Throwing better hardware at it won't fix it in the next 8 years either.

You know, it seems to be true

[Sky Is Green]

x3d cache (or equivalent) is basically your only answer if you want to keep it simple.

The more advanced answer is; do your homework. You can't expect to buy pieces of hardware, mash it together and expect it to just work. The very idea is extremely moronic.

[Nonexistinghero]

I'd say 5800X. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and ah... performance is pretty terrible. Even with my 3080 Ti I can't get 1440p or 4K with 60 fps using DLSS with 'mostly high' settings. My brother has a 5800X and the same GPU.

Thing is CPU's are currently too expensive. If I'm upgrading, I'm not upgrading to the next minimum unless I can get it for really cheap. Which means I will also need a new mobo alongside a new CPU when I do upgrade. So that's gonna cost me about €500. Though my first priority is buying a new TV. So I'll likely be stuck with this for another 6 months.

If I see a 5800X drop to like €100 or so I'll probably get one as an in-between upgrade, but otherwise I'm better off just waiting for a proper upgrade. That said, it is disappointing that the game seems to be so CPU heavy. I don't think it was necessary to do that. I could even run Wukong just fine at mostly 60 fps in 4K with DLSS and that game looks way better graphically.

[The Real Fragamemnon]

Just go play on console.

[Khergit Horse Archer]

Publicado originalmente por Nonexistinghero:

I'd say 5800X. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and ah... performance is pretty terrible. Even with my 3080 Ti I can't get 1440p or 4K with 60 fps using DLSS with 'mostly high' settings. My brother has a 5800X and the same GPU.

Thing is CPU's are currently too expensive. If I'm upgrading, I'm not upgrading to the next minimum unless I can get it for really cheap. Which means I will also need a new mobo alongside a new CPU when I do upgrade. So that's gonna cost me about €500. Though my first priority is buying a new TV. So I'll likely be stuck with this for another 6 months.

If I see a 5800X drop to like €100 or so I'll probably get one as an in-between upgrade, but otherwise I'm better off just waiting for a proper upgrade. That said, it is disappointing that the game seems to be so CPU heavy. I don't think it was necessary to do that. I could even run Wukong just fine at mostly 60 fps in 4K with DLSS and that game looks way better graphically.

bruh cpus are fairly cheap just get a b650m and ryzen 7500f or 7400f off aliexpress ezpz less than 300usd total lmao, maybe with ram just add another 100

its only the gpu that is the issue here.

[ΛΞL™⚡]

That CPU doesn't exist yet check back in 5 years.

[Lyuze]

Publicado originalmente por Nonexistinghero:

I'd say 5800X. I have a Ryzen 5 3600 and ah... performance is pretty terrible. Even with my 3080 Ti I can't get 1440p or 4K with 60 fps using DLSS with 'mostly high' settings. My brother has a 5800X and the same GPU.

Thing is CPU's are currently too expensive. If I'm upgrading, I'm not upgrading to the next minimum unless I can get it for really cheap. Which means I will also need a new mobo alongside a new CPU when I do upgrade. So that's gonna cost me about €500. Though my first priority is buying a new TV. So I'll likely be stuck with this for another 6 months.

If I see a 5800X drop to like €100 or so I'll probably get one as an in-between upgrade, but otherwise I'm better off just waiting for a proper upgrade. That said, it is disappointing that the game seems to be so CPU heavy. I don't think it was necessary to do that. I could even run Wukong just fine at mostly 60 fps in 4K with DLSS and that game looks way better graphically.

tons of decent amd cpus are on sale, a lot of them for more than a hundred dollars off (including the 7700x, which i am using to run this game with good performance), and mobos for them can be found for like a hundred bucks. Shouldnt cost you more than 375 or so to upgrade rn with that combo, closer to 300 if you go for a 7600x

EDIT: my bad, should have specified, im seeing these sales on amazon. Not sure if theyre happening elsewhere

[Nonexistinghero]

Being on sale and being a good price are 2 completely different things. And no I'm not getting a 7600x, I already said in my post I'm not gonna go for a low-end upgrade. I would go for a minor upgrade if it's cheap enough, €200 is not cheap for something I don't intend to use for more than a year or so. Any worthwhile CPU that will last me the next 5 years will cost me €350+ for the CPU alone and requires a €150 or so mobo. On top of that I need to upgrade my RAM as well (the only thing I upgraded in my rig so far are the SSD and GPU, the rest is from when I built it back in like 2019).

And if I need to spend that kind of money, I need to prioritize things. A new TV comes first.

[Lyuze]

Publicado originalmente por Nonexistinghero:

Being on sale and being a good price are 2 completely different things. And no I'm not getting a 7600x, I already said in my post I'm not gonna go for a low-end upgrade. I would go for a minor upgrade if it's cheap enough, €200 is not cheap for something I don't intend to use for more than a year or so. Any worthwhile CPU that will last me the next 5 years will cost me €350+ for the CPU alone and requires a €150 or so mobo. On top of that I need to upgrade my RAM as well (the only thing I upgraded in my rig so far are the SSD and GPU, the rest is from when I built it back in like 2019).

And if I need to spend that kind of money, I need to prioritize things. A new TV comes first.

the 7700x will *absolutely* last you longer than a single year lol. Hell, it benches around double the performance of your current cpu, and only around 10-12% lower than the 9800x3d in passmark, and around 15% lower in pcmark.

And as i said before, it does not require a 150 eur mobo, you can find am5 mobos for 100 or so. Hell, i got my 7700x and mobo together with a 32gb ddr5 ram bundle new for 400 about a year and a half ago by just looking for deals rather than sitting around complaining about prices being high. And i only looked on one website for those prices, i am 100% sure better deals can be found elsewhere.

Not saying "go out and buy one RIGHT NOW", if you gotta get a tv then you gotta get a tv, but if your idea is that you have to spend 500 eur and up on a cpu thatll last you some years, thats just not true

[Viper]

Running it with an I7 8700K with about 65% utilization.

[Nonexistinghero]

Publicado originalmente por Lyuze:

Publicado originalmente por Nonexistinghero:

Being on sale and being a good price are 2 completely different things. And no I'm not getting a 7600x, I already said in my post I'm not gonna go for a low-end upgrade. I would go for a minor upgrade if it's cheap enough, €200 is not cheap for something I don't intend to use for more than a year or so. Any worthwhile CPU that will last me the next 5 years will cost me €350+ for the CPU alone and requires a €150 or so mobo. On top of that I need to upgrade my RAM as well (the only thing I upgraded in my rig so far are the SSD and GPU, the rest is from when I built it back in like 2019).

And if I need to spend that kind of money, I need to prioritize things. A new TV comes first.

the 7700x will *absolutely* last you longer than a single year lol. Hell, it benches around double the performance of your current cpu, and only around 10-12% lower than the 9800x3d in passmark, and around 15% lower in pcmark.

And as i said before, it does not require a 150 eur mobo, you can find am5 mobos for 100 or so. Hell, i got my 7700x and mobo together with a 32gb ddr5 ram bundle new for 400 about a year and a half ago by just looking for deals rather than sitting around complaining about prices being high. And i only looked on one website for those prices, i am 100% sure better deals can be found elsewhere.

Not saying "go out and buy one RIGHT NOW", if you gotta get a tv then you gotta get a tv, but if your idea is that you have to spend 500 eur and up on a cpu thatll last you some years, thats just not true

Yeah it is true. For one thing, games have been getting a lot more CPU-bound recently. And my current TV can only play 4K up to 60 fps, which a ryzen 3600 still does fine for most games. But my new TV would go up to 120 or 144. A low budget CPU isn't gonna cut it for the next 5-6 years this time around. Also prices in Europe are generally a good bit higher than in the US (not always, but definitely when it comes to PC hardware for most part).

[VIC1OUSTHREAT]

you are bottlenecked, the game is poorly optimised.