I'm confused on what people consider "unoptimized" on new games.

[tehga]

In my opinion, an "optimized" game would hit the target FPS the game was designed for, with everything set to "ultra" on the highest end card that exists on the day of release. If you have old hardware you should have to set settings down to match the age of your hardware. It seems like a lot of people with years-old hardware are angry that a game that came out today doesn't run at full settings on their old PC.

[ƬᗩԲԲվ]

When they recommend frame gen for 60 fps it's safe to say it's unoptimized.

[Dae]

"It's your hardware! not the very clearly un-optimised game thread #43521.

[Archgod]

Game requires you either bruteforce it to run properly at 60fps or use framegen.

[ChubbiChibbai]

Originally posted by tehga:

In my opinion, an "optimized" game would hit the target FPS the game was designed for, with everything set to "ultra" on the highest end card that exists on the day of release. If you have old hardware you should have to set settings down to match the age of your hardware. It seems like a lot of people with years-old hardware are angry that a game that came out today doesn't run at full settings on their old PC.

To people on steam unoptimised is when their budget tier ##060 or ##070 card with low VRAM can't run a modern game with everything on max, raytracing turned on, no upscaling and they can't hit 120fps at 4K.

To everyone else that understands how to configure in game settings and get the best out of their specific hardware setup - almost all games are fine.

[Shield]

The rabble with their 30 series computers (might as well have integrated these days...) will always be angry when their dated hardware fails them. They'll use words they don't really understand like "unoptimized."

Anything to avoid getting a job and buying a better machine.

[Kiririn]

Originally posted by ChubbiChibbai:

Originally posted by tehga:

In my opinion, an "optimized" game would hit the target FPS the game was designed for, with everything set to "ultra" on the highest end card that exists on the day of release. If you have old hardware you should have to set settings down to match the age of your hardware. It seems like a lot of people with years-old hardware are angry that a game that came out today doesn't run at full settings on their old PC.

To people on steam unoptimised is when their budget tier ##060 or ##070 card with low VRAM can't run a modern game with everything on max, raytracing turned on, no upscaling and they can't hit 120fps at 4K.

To everyone else that understands how to configure in game settings and get the best out of their specific hardware setup - almost all games are fine.

Strawmaning's final boss.

[ƬᗩԲԲվ]

Originally posted by ChubbiChibbai:

To people on steam unoptimised is when their budget tier ##060 or ##070 card with low VRAM can't run a modern game with everything on max, raytracing turned on, no upscaling and they can't hit 120fps at 4K.

To everyone else that understands how to configure in game settings and get the best out of their specific hardware setup - almost all games are fine.

"Additional Notes: SSD required. This game is expected to run at 1080p / 60 fps (with Frame Generation enabled) under the "Medium" graphics setting. DirectStorage supported." That's under recommended specs.

Frame gen to hit 60fps is actually abysmal and you won't find another games recommended specs that say that. Nvidia didn't make frame gen for 30-> 60.

[Wine-dark sea]

Originally posted by ƬᗩԲԲվ:

When they recommend frame gen for 60 fps it's safe to say it's unoptimized.

According to the official website, it is intended that FG and upscaling to be used in order to achieve 2160p/60fps even for the recommended specs for "Ultra" settings, which makes it even worse.

[tfa]

Originally posted by ChubbiChibbai:

Originally posted by tehga:

In my opinion, an "optimized" game would hit the target FPS the game was designed for, with everything set to "ultra" on the highest end card that exists on the day of release. If you have old hardware you should have to set settings down to match the age of your hardware. It seems like a lot of people with years-old hardware are angry that a game that came out today doesn't run at full settings on their old PC.

To people on steam unoptimised is when their budget tier ##060 or ##070 card with low VRAM can't run a modern game with everything on max, raytracing turned on, no upscaling and they can't hit 120fps at 4K.

To everyone else that understands how to configure in game settings and get the best out of their specific hardware setup - almost all games are fine.

Where have you seen a 4060 owner expecting 4k 120 fps on modern games?

[JayKaye]

How about when it is literally the worst running game on the market today.

[Archgod]

Originally posted by Shield:

The rabble with their 30 series computers (might as well have integrated these days...) will always be angry when their dated hardware fails them. They'll use words they don't really understand like "unoptimized."

Anything to avoid getting a job and buying a better machine.

Worst bait I've ever seen this week and I have twitter where all the blue checks live.

[JudgeTy]

Originally posted by ƬᗩԲԲվ:

When they recommend frame gen for 60 fps it's safe to say it's unoptimized.

But its not. i5 11th gen + 4080 super + ultra settings = 72. 4-5th ranked card.

CPU heavy game? I'm using a cpu from 2021. 4 year old CPU. Mid range i5.

4k hdr oled viewing. Full HDR enabled.

72 without framegen or dlss. Add 3-5 fps with DLSS max resolution based. Ray Tracing takes 3 fps (in the demo). I think the game runs good.

This is on "unoptimized" drivers for Nvidia. The wilds driver has not been released by Nvidia, also wilds didn't have any newer 5x to "optimize" for in development.

AMD have about 20% better framerate on the last year cards to now.

[ƬᗩԲԲվ]

Originally posted by JudgeTy:

But its not. i5 11th gen + 4080 super + ultra settings = 72. 4-5th ranked card.

CPU heavy game? I'm using a cpu from 2021. 4 year old CPU. Mid range i5.

4k hdr oled viewing. Full HDR enabled.

72 without framegen or dlss. Add 3-5 fps with DLSS max resolution based. Ray Tracing takes 3 fps (in the demo).

This is on unoptimized drivers for Nvidia. The wilds driver has not been released by Nvidia, also wilds didn't have any newer 5x to optimize for in development.

You're in 4k so you won't be CPU bound nearly as much.

That's great it runs to your liking. But that doesn't make it optimized. The vast majority of users won't be on a 4080S or higher.

[Havok]

Originally posted by Shield:

The rabble with their 30 series computers (might as well have integrated these days...) will always be angry when their dated hardware fails them. They'll use words they don't really understand like "unoptimized."

Anything to avoid getting a job and buying a better machine.

30 series is hardly outdated. People still run on 10 series cards my dude.

I ran the benchmark at 1440p on a 3080TI and had over 60 FPS, which is all I really need to enjoy a game like this. I would go get a 4090 but.. oh right.. Nvidia cut the supply, and there isn't a single store in my area that has any 50 series cards, with the only stock being 4060s.

[Luckyxray]

its optimized enough if my pc can at least run low settings without losing frames
remember cyberpunk that game ran like ass in the start but now it runs on most things