[ RESOLVED ] - Improved performance with new CPU + GPU, looking to optimize

[noaokami]

Originally posted by noaokami:

This will be sort of an update to this thread here, as I've finally received the new CPU + GPU based on the suggestions from the comments and I wanted to share how well they performed.

My new current build:
Motherboard: MSI X570-A PRO (MS-7C37)
CPU: AMD Ryzen 7 5700X <-- was hoping to get the 5800X3D but couldn't get my hands on one, had to settle
GPU: AMD Radeon RX 6800
Memory: 32 GB
Running the game on a 1TB SSD (not my HDD)

And here is my result when running the game on High settings, with Frame Generation and AMD Native AA turned on. [i.imgur.com]

Mind you, I ran it on Ultra too, and the performance was pretty similar. I turned it down a notch to try getting just a few more crumbs of FPS.

Of course, it wasn't perfect, but it was a serious improvement from what I had before. I'm satisfied. However, I will note that while the cutscenes looked smooth, the moment it transitioned to the gameplay section there was a significant drop in frames - particularly when the weather clears and you're on the Seikret walking in the grass. My FPS went from 70+ to the 30-40 range.

This is definitely a letdown, as the majority of our experience with this game will be in those areas, and I'm wondering what setting changes could possibly mitigate that without sacrificing too much quality.

I also noticed that if I wasn't running AMD Native AA, the hair/textures looked so crunchy it was almost unbearable. Like, "jesus christ, even World looked better than that," unbearable. I'm not sure why.

What's working for you guys?

Managed to push my PC as far as I think it can go, thank you to those who commented with suggestions. Here is a screenshot of my benchmark result now, after implementing the changes.[i.imgur.com] Figured I'd add it in case anyone else in a situation like mine needs an answer.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

But you didn t even grab 5700x3d or didnt order online?
,,,,,,,

[noaokami]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

But you didn t even grab 5700x3d or didnt order online?
,,,,,,,

Tried to. couldn't get my hands on one, simple as that.
I am currently trying to work with what I have now.

[Kiririn]

Originally posted by noaokami:

particularly when the weather clears and you're on the Seikret walking in the grass. My FPS went from 70+ to the 30-40 range.

This is definitely a letdown, as the majority of our experience with this game will be in those areas, and I'm wondering what setting changes could possibly mitigate that without sacrificing too much quality.

I also noticed that if I wasn't running AMD Native AA, the hair/textures looked so crunchy it was almost unbearable. Like, "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, World looked better than that," unbearable. I'm not sure why.

You were getting in the 30-40 range with frame gen? That doesn't sound right with your hardware. Are you sure? I would expect that from your hardware with frame gen off considering the state of this game.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by noaokami:

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

But you didn t even grab 5700x3d or didnt order online?
,,,,,,,

Tried to. couldn't get my hands on one, simple as that.
I am currently trying to work with what I have now.

Then you should of gone AM5...

Right now you wasted alot of money

[Ame-kun]

yeah, the DLSS seems kind of off to me... I don't even really know what it does, to be fair, but...

[Kelden]

Native AA is too demanding, even my 4080S doesnt enjoy DLAA in this game, DLSSQ looks pretty much the same and it gives me 10-20fps xtra, so try that. Raytracing you dont need in this game, as this game is not "shiny".

But still, that fps seems VERY low for those specs

[Kelden]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by noaokami:

Tried to. couldn't get my hands on one, simple as that.
I am currently trying to work with what I have now.

Then you should of gone AM5...

Right now you wasted alot of money

Bro....not true. AM4 is more than capable, my wife's PC is an AM4, but she has the 5800X3D, and she ran the benchmark with 100fps just fint at High DLSSQ at 1600p(we both us Ultrawides). She also uses a 4070Ti S.

So no, AM4 is not a waste of money.

[Kelden]

Originally posted by Ame-kun:

yeah, the DLSS seems kind of off to me... I don't even really know what it does, to be fair, but...

Simple answer is, it scales the resolution down, and then back up to match your native resolution. So if you play on 4K, and use one of the DLSS settings, it shows you 1080p scaled up to 4K, and the results are not always pleasant. It depends on the game, engine and developers how serious they are taking their jobs.

I will never go below DLSS quality in any game, because lower than that, you will start to see it.

[GamingWithSilvertail]

Originally posted by Palikai:

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Then you should of gone AM5...

Right now you wasted alot of money

Bro....not true. AM4 is more than capable, my wife's PC is an AM4, but she has the 5800X3D, and she ran the benchmark with 100fps just fint at High DLSSQ at 1600p(we both us Ultrawides). She also uses a 4070Ti S.

So no, AM4 is not a waste of money.

Only if x3d..... He upgraded from only a 3700x to only a 5700x. Should read whole posts...

[RotGoblin]

That is definitely underperforming.

First off, move to driver 25.2.1 (not the magic bullet but it helps)

What is your RAM speed and did you set the XMP/DOCP profile in the Bios?

Also have you installed the Chipset driver?

-edit- and did you use DDU to fully remove the Nvidia drivers? When swapping between Nvidia/Radeon/Intel GPU's you should DDU the old drivers away.

https://www.guru3d.com/download/display-driver-uninstaller-download

Instructions and dowload on that page. Basically, it will ask you to reboot into safe mode, and for best results unplug/disable your internet whilst you DDU to prevent Windows from messing it up and trying to install their own driver.

[Kelden]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by Palikai:

Bro....not true. AM4 is more than capable, my wife's PC is an AM4, but she has the 5800X3D, and she ran the benchmark with 100fps just fint at High DLSSQ at 1600p(we both us Ultrawides). She also uses a 4070Ti S.

So no, AM4 is not a waste of money.

Only if x3d..... He upgraded from only a 3700x to only a 5700x. Should read whole posts...

Oh i saw it, but he isnt SOL yet, getting a 5800X3D is still possible for him. AM4 systems are nearing their end of support, that is true, but it still runs games just fine.

OP, if i were you, i'd REALLY try to hunt down a cheap X3D CPU for the AM4 MB's. 5700 or preferably the 5800.

I dont know much about the AMD GPU's, ive always been team green as i dont like AMD's interfaces and scaling tech, but is the 6800 a mid GPU?

[noaokami]

Originally posted by Kiririn:

Originally posted by noaokami:

particularly when the weather clears and you're on the Seikret walking in the grass. My FPS went from 70+ to the 30-40 range.

This is definitely a letdown, as the majority of our experience with this game will be in those areas, and I'm wondering what setting changes could possibly mitigate that without sacrificing too much quality.

I also noticed that if I wasn't running AMD Native AA, the hair/textures looked so crunchy it was almost unbearable. Like, "♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, World looked better than that," unbearable. I'm not sure why.

You were getting in the 30-40 range with frame gen? That doesn't sound right with your hardware. Are you sure? I would expect that from your hardware with frame gen off considering the state of this game.

Just ran another benchmark, it's more like 38-45. that's acceptable to me, but again, kind of a letdown. I was surprised, I thought the new GPU would be able to handle it considering how strong it is.

I'm really hoping that Capcom either pushes out an optimization patch or the community fixes it themselves, because if my 6800 struggled to render a bunch of grass and multiple smaller monsters, I can't imagine it's going to handle some of the flashier monster fights well.

[noaokami]

Originally posted by GamingWithSilvertail:

Originally posted by Palikai:

Bro....not true. AM4 is more than capable, my wife's PC is an AM4, but she has the 5800X3D, and she ran the benchmark with 100fps just fint at High DLSSQ at 1600p(we both us Ultrawides). She also uses a 4070Ti S.

So no, AM4 is not a waste of money.

Only if x3d..... He upgraded from only a 3700x to only a 5700x. Should read whole posts...

Please do not assume I didn't read the comments in my own thread. I did. I took what everyone said into account, but I have a limited budget and limited time. Believe me, I wanted the X3D, particularly the 5800X3D and not the 5700X3D, but I took what I could get.

And it's not like I think it's performing bad, either, I think it's doing pretty well considering the scale of this game. I was just wondering how I could improve upon it settings-wise.

[Kelden]

Originally posted by noaokami:

Originally posted by Kiririn:

You were getting in the 30-40 range with frame gen? That doesn't sound right with your hardware. Are you sure? I would expect that from your hardware with frame gen off considering the state of this game.

Just ran another benchmark, it's more like 38-45. that's acceptable to me, but again, kind of a letdown. I was surprised, I thought the new GPU would be able to handle it considering how strong it is.

I'm really hoping that Capcom either pushes out an optimization patch or the community fixes it themselves, because if my 6800 struggled to render a bunch of grass and multiple smaller monsters, I can't imagine it's going to handle some of the flashier monster fights well.

Nonono....that is not acceptable mate. If thats WITH framegen, the game will feel HORRIBLE, it means your base is below 30fps, using framegen then is not advicable.

Did you install drivers for everything? Did you check bios if XMP and ReBar is turned on? Theres things you can do, playing it like that is something i wouldnt even do to my worst enemy.

[Kiririn]

Originally posted by noaokami:

Originally posted by Kiririn:

You were getting in the 30-40 range with frame gen? That doesn't sound right with your hardware. Are you sure? I would expect that from your hardware with frame gen off considering the state of this game.

Just ran another benchmark, it's more like 38-45. that's acceptable to me, but again, kind of a letdown. I was surprised, I thought the new GPU would be able to handle it considering how strong it is.

I'm really hoping that Capcom either pushes out an optimization patch or the community fixes it themselves, because if my 6800 struggled to render a bunch of grass and multiple smaller monsters, I can't imagine it's going to handle some of the flashier monster fights well.

That's shame, but yeah, Capcom dropped the ball big on this game's optimization. A 5700x/6800 combo should be able to handle this at 1080p. It's ridiculous that it can't.