Gunlance

[Ruxcy]

Is the G. Lawful boars gunlance better than the artian gunlance? And why if so.

[Randy Butternubs]

It is to the meta crowd. Those trying to min/max everything. It has to do with Ark farming with the Dragon element. The shelling as well. However, mainly just for Ark farming which seems to be the only thing the meta crowd does. Play what you want!

[Terminal Desolation]

Simply put: Yes. And it's objective.

The only benefit the Artian has over the Guardian Arkveld weapon is 3 3* Deco slots, but G Arkveld has 2 3* slots already, so you can fit Artillery 3 (best shelling DPS boost) and one of the Magazine hybrid jewels.

G Arkveld weapon also has "Slightly Strong" shells which boost the shelling damage, and one of the highest raw damage totals of all Gunlances, all of which contribute to the shelling damage.

With my armor skills all active, my shells hit monsters for ~100 damage a shot, usually running closer to 85-90 though since I don't get to proc the Jin Dahaad set boost very often. That's a good bit more than I would be doing with an equivalent Artian weapon, and your booms make up a significant portion of your DPS as a Gunlancer.

No need to waste your time trying to grind the perfect Artian with god rolls for Gunlance. We got a better tool anyway.

[Ruxcy]

Originally posted by Terminal Desolation:

Simply put: Yes. And it's objective.

The only benefit the Artian has over the Guardian Arkveld weapon is 3 3* Deco slots, but G Arkveld has 2 3* slots already, so you can fit Artillery 3 (best shelling DPS boost) and one of the Magazine hybrid jewels.

G Arkveld weapon also has "Slightly Strong" shells which boost the shelling damage, and one of the highest raw damage totals of all Gunlances, all of which contribute to the shelling damage.

With my armor skills all active, my shells hit monsters for ~100 damage a shot, usually running closer to 85-90 though since I don't get to proc the Jin Dahaad set boost very often. That's a good bit more than I would be doing with an equivalent Artian weapon, and your booms make up a significant portion of your DPS as a Gunlancer.

No need to waste your time trying to grind the perfect Artian with god rolls for Gunlance. We got a better tool anyway.

Can shells crit?

[Lair360]

As a vet in G.Lance, what is the purpose for Wide shelling? I understand the Normal and Long. But Wide shelling... uhhh... still confuse till this day.... I am being honest....

[Ruxcy]

Originally posted by Lair360:

As a vet in G.Lance, what is the purpose for Wide shelling? I understand the Normal and Long. But Wide shelling... uhhh... still confuse till this day.... I am being honest....

Wide increases wyverns fire damage I think.

[Gill]

Originally posted by Lair360:

As a vet in G.Lance, what is the purpose for Wide shelling? I understand the Normal and Long. But Wide shelling... uhhh... still confuse till this day.... I am being honest....

It's kinda good for farming small monsters or against large mobile ones who like to move around a lot. Let's you be slightly less precise with your shelling so you can clip them as they run around you.

[Gill]

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

Is the G. Lawful boars gunlance better than the artian gunlance? And why if so.

G. Lawful, get Artillery 3, Load Shell/Guardian (I think it's called) and stack Burst 5 across your armour and enjoy very silly damage numbers.

Slap on a rocksteady mantel at the start of a fight to get a full burst x2 combo, ending each in a Wyvern. Lovely big numbers <3

[Lair360]

Ohhhh... understood. Thanks for the information. Thank you.

[Ruxcy]

Originally posted by Gill:

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

Is the G. Lawful boars gunlance better than the artian gunlance? And why if so.

G. Lawful, get Artillery 3, Load Shell/Guardian (I think it's called) and stack Burst 5 across your armour and enjoy very silly damage numbers.

Slap on a rocksteady mantel at the start of a fight to get a full burst x2 combo, ending each in a Wyvern. Lovely big numbers <3

Alright thanks, but isn't corrupted mantle better?

[Ruxcy]

Originally posted by Gill:

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

Is the G. Lawful boars gunlance better than the artian gunlance? And why if so.

G. Lawful, get Artillery 3, Load Shell/Guardian (I think it's called) and stack Burst 5 across your armour and enjoy very silly damage numbers.

Slap on a rocksteady mantel at the start of a fight to get a full burst x2 combo, ending each in a Wyvern. Lovely big numbers <3

Should I do ebony armor?

[Gill]

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

Originally posted by Gill:

G. Lawful, get Artillery 3, Load Shell/Guardian (I think it's called) and stack Burst 5 across your armour and enjoy very silly damage numbers.

Slap on a rocksteady mantel at the start of a fight to get a full burst x2 combo, ending each in a Wyvern. Lovely big numbers <3

Alright thanks, but isn't corrupted mantle better?

Kinda. The point of the rocksteady in this case is to ensure you get the whole 2x combo off for Burst 5. Whenever you land the combo, burst will activate giving you a massive stat boost. You then Wyvern at the end of the combo (After the stake in the Full Burst combo) and then do the whole thing again.

If the monster knocks you over at any point in that, you're going to take a _substantial_ DPS loss as you have to restart the combo to make sure Burst stays on (So that's a reposition, reload and hoping the monster stays near you). Rocksteady stops you getting knocked down. You still take the full damage though so be cautious around monsters like Gore. Once you've gotten through the combo and the mantel is done, switch to corrupted for aggressive play style, or switch to healing if you're going for a full-break-farm.

[Terminal Desolation]

Originally posted by Lair360:

As a vet in G.Lance, what is the purpose for Wide shelling? I understand the Normal and Long. But Wide shelling... uhhh... still confuse till this day.... I am being honest....

Wyvern's Fire and Wyvernstake Blast both have more damage across the board on Wide. Shelling damage isn't terribly different once you take into account the Magazine gems. If you don't have Magazine gems, the Normal does have a noticeably stronger full burst. Your full burst damage is only slightly lower than a Normal shell Gunlance, but each individual blast is more damage which benefits when you have to turtle and do the "poke boom" strategies. (This is ignoring the raw damage being higher on G Ark vs most other Gunlances, as raw has a major impact on shelling.) Another, more fringe, benefit is your sharpness will tend to decrease a little bit less due to you having fewer shells to fire.

The buffs to Wyvern's Fire and Wyvernstake Blast are very good considering how consistently you can use both of them in Wilds. If this was World, it would be less of a factor, but since those are both now heavily integrated into your most powerful combos, it's significant.

[Illumina]

Lawful Bors is regarded as the best because shells can't crit but now shells are scaled through Raw.

I don't think they scale with sharpness anymore either.

[Gill]

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

Originally posted by Gill:

G. Lawful, get Artillery 3, Load Shell/Guardian (I think it's called) and stack Burst 5 across your armour and enjoy very silly damage numbers.

Slap on a rocksteady mantel at the start of a fight to get a full burst x2 combo, ending each in a Wyvern. Lovely big numbers <3

Should I do ebony armor?

Armour skills are a little bit more subjective depending on what you want to do or accomplish, but I have a mixed set.

Here is my fill build actually:
Head - Ebony Helm B - Counter [2]
Chest - Blango Mail B - Ambush [2]
Arms - Dahaad Shardbracers B - Ambush [2]
Belt - Ebony Coil B - Physique [1] + Counter [2]
Legs - Dahaad Shadgreaves B - Counter [2]
Talisman - Chain Charm II [For burst. No decorations obviously]

Weapon - G Lawful Bors - Focus [1], Artillery [3]. Magazine\Ironwall [3]

This will give you the following skills on the weapon:
Arty 3 (Extra pew pew damage)
Guard 3 (You have a shield, don'tcha!?)
Load Shell 2 (Gives you an extra shot)
Focus 1

And this on Armour:
Agitator 5 (When monster enrages, so do you)
Burst 5 (Incredibly silly stat boost)
Counterstrike 3
Ambush 2
Adaptability 1 (Love this skill!)
Constitution 1

Set skills will be:
Binding Counter 1
And Burst Boost 1 (Are you seeing what I'm going for yet?)

The big play - get an ambush, get rocksteady on, do the full burst combo twice, ending each part with a Wyvern.

I don't _THINK_ this is meta, but damn is it fun :D

[Ruxcy]

Originally posted by Gill:

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

Should I do ebony armor?

Armour skills are a little bit more subjective depending on what you want to do or accomplish, but I have a mixed set.

Here is my fill build actually:
Head - Ebony Helm B - Counter [2]
Chest - Blango Mail B - Ambush [2]
Arms - Dahaad Shardbracers B - Ambush [2]
Belt - Ebony Coil B - Physique [1] + Counter [2]
Legs - Dahaad Shadgreaves B - Counter [2]
Talisman - Chain Charm II [For burst. No decorations obviously]

Weapon - G Lawful Bors - Focus [1], Artillery [3]. Magazine\Ironwall [3]

This will give you the following skills on the weapon:
Arty 3
Guard 3
Load Shell 2
Focus 1

And this on Armour:
Agitator 5
Burst 5
Counterstrike 3
Ambush 2
Adaptability 1 (Love this skill!)
Constitution 1

Set skills will be:
Binding Counter 1
And Burst Boost 1 (Are you seeing what I'm going for yet?)

The big play - get an ambush, get rocksteady on, do the full burst combo twice, ending each part with a Wyvern. I don't _THINK_ this is meta, but damn is it fun :D

Why do people like the jin dahaad armor? Binding Counter doesn't seem too good.