What do you think about Zoh Shia and it's similitarities with Xeno'Jiiva

[Alby]

I feel like that the concept and aesthetic are too similar.
I hope I won't see a Shara Ishvalda revamp in the DLC...

[The Debauchery]

It is Xeno'jiiva with Shara Ishvalda hands already.
Wilds is already World 2.
At least Arkveld is a marginally more interesting flagship than Nergigante, though it already shares the trait of apparently eating its own kind.

The writing staff really couldn't think of anything new so they just did the same thing again.... kinda like Rise did with Portable 3rd.

[Ruxcy]

Originally posted by The Debauchery:

It is Xeno'jiiva with Shara Ishvalda hands already.
Wilds is already World 2.
At least Arkveld is a marginally more interesting flagship than Nergigante, though it already shares the trait of apparently eating its own kind.

The writing staff really couldn't think of anything new so they just did the same thing again.... kinda like Rise did with Portable 3rd.

With the thought of the artificial dragon concept made years ago. People are guessing the devs thought it was a good time to add the concept into a game. So Zoh Shia has alot of similarities to the fatalis variants, Xeno'Jiiva, Shara, and one more I forgot the name of. The devs aren't lazy, and I think you haven't thought about this at all.

[Khergit Horse Archer]

both are just dragons that go boom boom

we nid a more inspired design/theme like a chimera dragon or some shizzz, made of different parts of known mons or something

[Mythily]

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

The devs aren't lazy

They are, in many ways. Don't have to look far either, just starting a new save is enough.

[Ruxcy]

Originally posted by Mythily:

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

The devs aren't lazy

They are, in many ways. Don't have to look far either, just starting a new save is enough.

The guy was saying the devs were lazying in a boss design way. Which they aren't. Other ways We'll have to see if alot of the problems get fixed in TU 1.

[The Debauchery]

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

With the thought of the artificial dragon concept made years ago. People are guessing the devs thought it was a good time to add the concept into a game. So Zoh Shia has alot of similarities to the fatalis variants, Xeno'Jiiva, Shara, and one more I forgot the name of. The devs aren't lazy, and I think you haven't thought about this at all.

What exactly is Zoh Shia supposed to have in common with Fatalis? I mean it doesn't move anything like Fatalis, doesn't stand like Fatalis, doesn't look like Fatalis.... so.... where is the connection? It seems to just be a Xeno'jiiva / Shara Ishvalda combo at the moment.

[Ruxcy]

Originally posted by The Debauchery:

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

With the thought of the artificial dragon concept made years ago. People are guessing the devs thought it was a good time to add the concept into a game. So Zoh Shia has alot of similarities to the fatalis variants, Xeno'Jiiva, Shara, and one more I forgot the name of. The devs aren't lazy, and I think you haven't thought about this at all.

What exactly is Zoh Shia supposed to have in common with Fatalis? I mean it doesn't move anything like Fatalis, doesn't stand like Fatalis, doesn't look like Fatalis.... so.... where is the connection? It seems to just be a Xeno'jiiva / Shara Ishvalda combo at the moment.

It does, Zoh Shia stands up like Fatalis, It has some fire attacks from Fatalis, it also has the red lightning from white fatalis. I've never seen crimson Fatalis so I don't know the attacks from him but people have said he has attacks from Crimson Fatalis. And then of course the similarities from Xeno and Shara. Also he has similarities to another final boss I just forgot the name. It doesn't have to look like Fatalis but he is black and only stands like Fatalis when doing the similar attacks. He walks around like Shara and Xeno

[@%thesock10150alpha49]

When I fought Zho, it literally never transformed. Like, at all. I didn't even know it COULD do that until I saw a YT video a week later.

It's an interesting concept, but it was implemented weird. Hopefully we get a tempered version that actually uses it's mechanics more frequently.

[Rasjel]

dont think its winghands are from shara. i relay cant see this. shares complete wings are just fingers. zoas winghands are way more like magalas (gore ore shagaru)

so my bet would be they took the body of a shaguro magala and mixed in some other monsters.

dont think they mixed in fataly´s stuff. that would be strange.
if they could kill a fataly´s why would they need to build zoa?

or there was some monster that was stronger that a fataly´s

time will tell.

[The Debauchery]

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

It does, Zoh Shia stands up like Fatalis, It has some fire attacks from Fatalis, it also has the red lightning from red fatalis. I've never seen crimson Fatalis so I don't know the attacks from him but people have said he has attacks from Crimson Fatalis.

I've fought him twice. He didn't do anything that looked like anything Fatalis did. And it isn't like Fatty has a monopoly on breathing fire... nor raining fireballs from the sky.... nor exploding crystals with lightning (which was honestly more of a World Alatreon thing).

[Ruxcy]

Originally posted by Rasjel:

dont think its winghands are from shara. i relay cant see this. shares complete wings are just fingers. zoas winghands are way more like magalas (gore ore shagaru)

so my bet would be they took the body of a shaguro magala and mixed in some other monsters.

dont think they mixed in fataly´s stuff. that would be strange.
if they could kill a fataly´s why would they need to build zoa?

or there was some monster that was stronger that a fataly´s

time will tell.

People are saying it's like shara because of the hands and how it sheds off its skin I guess to turn black like shara when the rocks fall off.

[Ruxcy]

Originally posted by The Debauchery:

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

It does, Zoh Shia stands up like Fatalis, It has some fire attacks from Fatalis, it also has the red lightning from red fatalis. I've never seen crimson Fatalis so I don't know the attacks from him but people have said he has attacks from Crimson Fatalis.

I've fought him twice. He didn't do anything that looked like anything Fatalis did. And it isn't like Fatty has a monopoly on breathing fire... nor raining fireballs from the sky.... nor exploding crystals with lightning (which was honestly more of a World Alatreon thing).

Zoh Shia doesn't have all of their attacks just some. Just look up a video or something covering Zoh because the attacks are similar.

[Gigadesu!]

I just wish we could still fight the last boss.
I wanted to do it again...

[Ext3h]

Originally posted by Gigadesu!:

I just wish we could still fight the last boss.
I wanted to do it again...

You can. Help with LR Zho Shia as filter lets you jump into other players fights for the main mission as often as you want.

[PERKLESS WARRIOR]

Originally posted by Mythily:

Originally posted by Ruxcy:

The devs aren't lazy

They are, in many ways. Don't have to look far either, just starting a new save is enough.

I don't understand. The most lazy thing the devs have done so far is use FrameGen as a crutch, and that can easily be attributed to them being rushed. It doesn't take much to tell that Wilds is not a finished game, and in more ways than just optimization.