So, RE-Engine truly can't do open worlds

[pRaX]

Performance wise, it's gonna be Dogma 2 all over again.

"This game is expected to run at 1080p / 60 fps (with Frame Generation enabled) under the "Medium" graphics setting.

Sad times we live in. Neither game's visuals and tech warrant this.

PS: I overshoot the requirements by alot. It's not the point.

[Keldric Usugi]

Yeah, RE Engine wasn't designed with this kind of scope in mind - and Capcom isn't going to wait until the REX engine is complete to ship Wilds. World suffered the same issue, since the RE engine wasn't ready in time for that game to be made in it, either, so it used the MT Framework engine (I believe).

That fact is a majority of why the specs are so high, I'd be willing to bet. I'm not looking forward to performance at launch, but at the very least, they have experience with this kind of thing from Rise and Dragon's Dogma 2. Things should be smoother than Dragon's Dogma 2's launch, at the very least. Hopefully.

[kampfer91]

Supposedly there is RE2 engine that will will work for open world game , unfortunately it is not ready yet when Wild start its development.

[Bucherebis]

Biggest problem will be CPU. They're again just asking for a 3600x, but we all know what happened to Dragon's Dogma 2.

I have a feeling the performance will be worse than DD2. My only hope is that, by being a different team, they may know how to work better with the engine than DD team, but the terrible requeriments just scream "poor optimization".

[zero]

i am curious where people are getting the idea its open world from.

its been instanced based arenas the whole time, why would it change now?

like, at best its gonna be a Guiding Lands situation where you stay longer for Reasons:tm: but thats still not really open world.

[pRaX]

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i am curious where people are getting the idea its open world from.

its been instanced based arenas the whole time, why would it change now?

like, at best its gonna be a Guiding Lands situation where you stay longer for Reasons:tm: but thats still not really open world.

Okay. Then it's not open world. Just big maps. Happy? What now?
Performance will still be the same and so does the point.

[zero]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh zero:

i am curious where people are getting the idea its open world from.

its been instanced based arenas the whole time, why would it change now?

like, at best its gonna be a Guiding Lands situation where you stay longer for Reasons:tm: but thats still not really open world.

Okay. Then it's not open world. Just big maps. Happy? What now?
Performance will still be the same and so does the point.

we had big maps in worlds, again, what is the concern?

i have concerns over the settings too, but the people here are missing 2 points:

its not open world, first and foremost, or at least was never announced as such, and not shown as such either.

and secondly: the performance issues of dd2 come from a physic engine that is checking for every single npc rendered, which causes major issues in the towns, but not in the open world itself.

wilds, to anything they have shown, does not appear to have any need for a physics engine like that, it doesn't need to check for gravity and object fall speed constantly for every creature in the area.

i get some of the concern due to the specs they revealed, but its not a DD2 situation just yet, from what they have shown.

[pRaX]

World isn't using the RE-Engine. That's the difference. Pretty important.
But you can keep on hampering about me mentioning "open world" as much as you like.

What I've seen in the shown footage is Domga 2's city performance in every single video.
In combination with what I quoted in OP, it ended up being confirmation.

[zero]

Diposting pertama kali oleh pRaX:

World isn't using the RE-Engine. That's the difference. Pretty important.
But you can keep on hampering about me mentioning "open world" as much as you like.

What I've seen in the shown footage is Domga 2's city performance in every single video.
In combination with what I quoted in OP, it ended up being confirmation.

i mean ive clearly not seen w/e footage you are seeing so i'd like to ask for it then

[pRaX]

Diposting pertama kali oleh zero:

Diposting pertama kali oleh pRaX:

World isn't using the RE-Engine. That's the difference. Pretty important.
But you can keep on hampering about me mentioning "open world" as much as you like.

What I've seen in the shown footage is Domga 2's city performance in every single video.
In combination with what I quoted in OP, it ended up being confirmation.

i mean ive clearly not seen w/e footage you are seeing so i'd like to ask for it then

Every single released footage. If you can't see it, then you're blind to it.
Either on purpose / willful ignorance or you're physically incapable, with the latter not being your fault.

[zero]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh zero:

i mean ive clearly not seen w/e footage you are seeing so i'd like to ask for it then

Every single released footage. If you can't see it, then you're blind to it.
Either on purpose / willful ignorance or you're physically incapable, with the latter not being your fault.

ah, so much about nothing then,gotcha.

sorry if you genuinely believe that from any of the gameplay reveals and dont actually want to provide an example then i realize this is just complaining for the sake of complaining for you, good luck with that

[pRaX]

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Diposting pertama kali oleh pRaX:

Every single released footage. If you can't see it, then you're blind to it.
Either on purpose / willful ignorance or you're physically incapable, with the latter not being your fault.

ah, so much about nothing then,gotcha.

sorry if you genuinely believe that from any of the gameplay reveals and dont actually want to provide an example then i realize this is just complaining for the sake of complaining for you, good luck with that

I just told you that it's in every single video. Even the short weapon showcases.
There is nothing else I can provide you with.
I'm trying my very best to stay cordial with you but you are trying your damnest to make it very challenging.

[zero]

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ah, so much about nothing then,gotcha.

sorry if you genuinely believe that from any of the gameplay reveals and dont actually want to provide an example then i realize this is just complaining for the sake of complaining for you, good luck with that

I just told you that it's in every single video. Even the short weapon showcases.
There is nothing else I can provide you with.
I'm trying my very best to stay cordial with you but you are trying your damnest to make it very challenging.

and if you are claiming its in every video, and i have watched most of them, then clearly you are seeing something im not, can you provide an example and timestamp?

you haven't provided me with anything, you haven't even told me what you are seeing that you are concerned about in any of the videos.

also: as for being "cordial"

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Diposting pertama kali oleh zero:

i am curious where people are getting the idea its open world from.

its been instanced based arenas the whole time, why would it change now?

like, at best its gonna be a Guiding Lands situation where you stay longer for Reasons:tm: but thats still not really open world.

Okay. Then it's not open world. Just big maps. Happy? What now?
Performance will still be the same and so does the point.

you haven't been from the start, i don't really care though, i cant stop you from your own actions.

[pRaX]

Diposting pertama kali oleh zero:

Diposting pertama kali oleh pRaX:

I just told you that it's in every single video. Even the short weapon showcases.
There is nothing else I can provide you with.
I'm trying my very best to stay cordial with you but you are trying your damnest to make it very challenging.

and if you are claiming its in every video, and i have watched most of them, then clearly you are seeing something im not, can you provide an example and timestamp?

you haven't provided me with anything, you haven't even told me what you are seeing that you are concerned about in any of the videos.

I was talking about performance. I don't know how this escaped you.
There is nothing I can provide you with if you can't see that the game is running at 30 FPS tops, or even lower in certain scenes, in all the curated PR footage.
The TGS live footage is one of the only 60fps recordings, I assume it's played on a PC, and the framerate is all over the place there aswell. It's better, but it's the Dogma 2 kind of better. In empty areas it's fine, for the most part at least. As soon as it's not empty anymore, it goes haywire.

I said I'm trying my best to stay cordial. My best is not the best in the world. If I wasn't trying, our conversation would look very different.
And don't give me this "you haven't been from the start". You've came in here with a certain, let's call it attitude, yourself aswell.

[zero]

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and if you are claiming its in every video, and i have watched most of them, then clearly you are seeing something im not, can you provide an example and timestamp?

you haven't provided me with anything, you haven't even told me what you are seeing that you are concerned about in any of the videos.

I was talking about performance. I don't know how this escaped you.
There is nothing I can provide you with if you can't see that the game is running at 30 FPS tops, or even lower in certain scenes, in all the curated PR footage.
The TGS live footage is one of the only 60fps recordings, I assume it's played on a PC, and the framerate is all over the place there aswell. It's better, but it's the Dogma 2 kind of better. In empty areas it's fine, for the most part at least. As soon as it's not empty anymore, it goes haywire.

i am aware you are talking about performance, what im not aware of is what you have seen in any of the videos (of which you do not provide still) that shows concern in that regard.

like genuinely, just provide the video if you're seeing it.

[pRaX]

https://www.youtube.com/@monsterhunter/videos
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zt1skrcOxxw
I dunno why you keep asking for it when I said multiple times that it's all footage.
I'm not giving you timestamps or anything. Not here to spoon feed you.