How is that there are literally just 3 persons in this forum advocating in favor of the armors "gender unlock?"

[[Poang] MR.S1CK]

Like the title says, in every post talking about the "gender unlock" matter, there are always (and only) the same three or four persons defending Capcom choice to include this kind of content in Wilds.

It makes believe that maybe this decision isn't really supported by the majority of the player base which instead simply asked for just more armor style customization with more specific designs both for male and female armors.

[𝓇𝒾𝓃𝒶𝒶𝒶𝒶𝒶]

The so-called silent majority is as real as the modern audience. Everyone has an opinion and has picked a hill to die on. You can lie to others, but you cannot lie to yourself.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Fika eredeti hozzászólása:

The so-called silent majority is as real as the modern audience. Everyone has an opinion and has picked a hill to die on. You can lie to others, but you cannot lie to yourself.

I mean I'm willing to have my mind changed, and it has happened even. But I admit it's rare lol

The only real problem I dislike about "the silent majority" point is when it's used to dismiss claims, especially if you attempt to speak for the silent. We have no idea what they would say either direction, or if they even would care if we could get their opinions.

[GrimAtrament]

speak for yourself and not for others.
claiming to be the "silent majority." is nothing more then egotism.

[parent child bowl]

KingOfFriedChicken eredeti hozzászólása:

parent child bowl eredeti hozzászólása:

The truth is that the vast majority of people doesn't give a crap. Just like with 95% of things that are being discussed in Steam forums. We are a very loud minority.

I mean to be fair there could be a large majority who agrees with either side of the small but louder minority, but we will never know unless it irritates them to the point of putting in effort. It could even be a 50/50 split, who knows :aushrug:

The silent majority just isn't bothered enough to make it heard, if they decide "games woke" they simply won't buy it and move on, or they won't care and will buy it. This also means it won't be reflected in sales, like for all we know there's a hypothetical 20 million people won't buy it on that premise but they will never buy it or tell us so it could remain with positive reviews 🤣 that's the rub with being silent though, it has a draw back.

You should generally assume that the silent majority doesn't give a crap. That's how we got to where we are. That's how we got microtransactions, lootboxes, "advanced access", P2W, official RMT, FOMO bait etc.. Video games are booming. And that's not because of the few hundred people talking on the forums.

If the silent majority gave a crap, gaming would come with a lot less garbage practices.

[KingOfFriedChicken]

parent child bowl eredeti hozzászólása:

You should generally assume that the silent majority doesn't give a crap. That's how we got to where we are. That's how we got microtransactions, lootboxes, "advanced access", P2W, official RMT, FOMO bait etc.. Video games are booming. And that's not because of the few hundred people talking on the forums.

If the silent majority gave a crap, gaming would come with a lot less garbage practices.

Alas this is likely the most true, and I imagine (but would never state it as fact or say i speak for them) a lot of them share my opinion of "not caring" I don't interact cuz I care though. Sometimes I'm just bored

It can be hard to muster up concerns for some stuff in games, especially until it effects us or those we know because a lot of us have literally ALOT going on in real life. We don't wanna add onto it all.

I remember when loot boxes first came I was very much of the eh who cares, never say anything mindset. Then my friend became addicted to them in overwatch, he had 100s of hours in that game... he never played a single match, he simply became addicted to the idea of collecting skins for a game he wasn't playing at all... we kept asking him why, when he didn't like the game play. Eventually it kicked in, but 100s of dollars after. Thankfully he didn't go to Ham and become a life savings story.

[Soren]

Pretty sure there are more than just 3 people liking the decision. I am certainly in favour of the decision too.

[[Poang] MR.S1CK]

ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣ eredeti hozzászólása:

Poang MR.S1CK eredeti hozzászólása:

Like I said many times, it could have been done better than this

why? its already perfect right now, the only thing people wanted were more choices and thats exactly what we're getting.
would you have been fine with it if they did the exact same change but instead silently renamed them to alpha / beta sets instead of outright stating "we can wear both gender's armour now"?

And just because i didnt quote your whole message doesnt mean i missed it, i just ignored it because the localisation team is a completely separate group from the development team, and i figured people would realise that. my mistake

People wanted more choice? True

People asked for crossdressing? False

This is just an example:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/6761670113856141570/

Crossdressing was mentiones but just as a joke.


Capcom should've made it clear that they did it for centering the ESG score, it would have been less insulting for people intelligence.

The reason many people are saying the crossgender armor thing is woke is exactly because the localization team is part of Capcom, hence they speak for the whole company.

P.s.: don't select part of messages only because they fit your narrative.

[ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣]

Poang MR.S1CK eredeti hozzászólása:

ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣ eredeti hozzászólása:

People wanted more choice? True

People asked for crossdressing? False

This is just an example:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/6761670113856141570/

Crossdressing was mentiones but just as a joke.

??
the only people i see in that post is people asking for more fashion options from the start of the game, including more skimpy armour for men... and not a single comment there looks like a joke to me

maybe you should find some better examples LOL

and what the hell are you talking about "the localisation team speaks for the whole company"? you've convinced me of nothing except how little you know about MH's development

[KingOfFriedChicken]

Poang MR.S1CK eredeti hozzászólása:

ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣ eredeti hozzászólása:

why? its already perfect right now, the only thing people wanted were more choices and thats exactly what we're getting.
would you have been fine with it if they did the exact same change but instead silently renamed them to alpha / beta sets instead of outright stating "we can wear both gender's armour now"?

And just because i didnt quote your whole message doesnt mean i missed it, i just ignored it because the localisation team is a completely separate group from the development team, and i figured people would realise that. my mistake

People wanted more choice? True

People asked for crossdressing? False

This is just an example:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/6761670113856141570/

Crossdressing was mentiones but just as a joke.


Capcom should've made it clear that they did it for centering the ESG score, it would have been less insulting for people intelligence.

The reason many people are saying the crossgender armor thing is woke is exactly because the localization team is part of Capcom, hence they speak for the whole company.

P.s.: don't select part of messages only because they fit your narrative.

What makes it "cross dressing" battle "skirts" are not new you know lol there are both Pteruges and periskelis like historically, now they aren't generally plated. Other cultures also has men in "skirts" like kilts, or tartan, even the hakama.

Perhaps you just need a perspective shift, stop considering clothing tied to a gender. Fun fact in ye old ages heels we worn by men and big fluffy hair pieces and makeup 🤣

[KoboldMage]

Poang MR.S1CK eredeti hozzászólása:

ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣ eredeti hozzászólása:

why? its already perfect right now, the only thing people wanted were more choices and thats exactly what we're getting.
would you have been fine with it if they did the exact same change but instead silently renamed them to alpha / beta sets instead of outright stating "we can wear both gender's armour now"?

And just because i didnt quote your whole message doesnt mean i missed it, i just ignored it because the localisation team is a completely separate group from the development team, and i figured people would realise that. my mistake

People wanted more choice? True

People asked for crossdressing? False

This is just an example:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/6761670113856141570/

Crossdressing was mentiones but just as a joke.


Capcom should've made it clear that they did it for centering the ESG score, it would have been less insulting for people intelligence.

The reason many people are saying the crossgender armor thing is woke is exactly because the localization team is part of Capcom, hence they speak for the whole company.

P.s.: don't select part of messages only because they fit your narrative.

Have you heard of Occam's razor before?

I think it's more likely that removing the gender lock on armour was just the easiest way to give everyone more armour options. This way, everyone can pick between the closed and open helmet options that used to be gender locked. If you'd rather have the cowboy hat and plague doctor mask from the Girros set than the goggles and facemask, you can.
You could spend a full days work going through all the armour sets in world picking out pieces that probably shouldn't have been gender locked in the first place.

What do you think the alternative is here? That someone goes through each piece of each armour set and decides what's acceptable for everyone to use, and what should stay gender locked?

[Soul]

Poang MR.S1CK eredeti hozzászólása:

It makes believe that maybe this decision isn't really supported by the majority of the player base

how bout you check reddit where people who talk about armor gender unlock is meet with thousands of likes and answers agreeing it should be that way,stop looking at steam forums lmao

[[Poang] MR.S1CK]

ᔑᓭ∴ᔑリ⊣ eredeti hozzászólása:

Poang MR.S1CK eredeti hozzászólása:

People wanted more choice? True

People asked for crossdressing? False

This is just an example:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/6761670113856141570/

Crossdressing was mentiones but just as a joke.

??
the only people i see in that post is people asking for more fashion options from the start of the game, including more skimpy armour for men... and not a single comment there looks like a joke to me

maybe you should find some better examples LOL

and what the hell are you talking about "the localisation team speaks for the whole company"? you've convinced me of nothing except how little you know about MH's development

Only one person was asking for a "male bikini" and it was clearly a joke.


I also said that the whole situation is "sus" because of the ESG score Capcom needs to meet and contemporarily of what the localization team wrote on X, stop cut away parts from the quotes, please.

[[Poang] MR.S1CK]

KingOfFriedChicken eredeti hozzászólása:

Poang MR.S1CK eredeti hozzászólása:

People wanted more choice? True

People asked for crossdressing? False

This is just an example:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/6761670113856141570/

Crossdressing was mentiones but just as a joke.


Capcom should've made it clear that they did it for centering the ESG score, it would have been less insulting for people intelligence.

The reason many people are saying the crossgender armor thing is woke is exactly because the localization team is part of Capcom, hence they speak for the whole company.

P.s.: don't select part of messages only because they fit your narrative.

What makes it "cross dressing" battle "skirts" are not new you know lol there are both Pteruges and periskelis like historically, now they aren't generally plated. Other cultures also has men in "skirts" like kilts, or tartan, even the hakama.

Perhaps you just need a perspective shift, stop considering clothing tied to a gender. Fun fact in ye old ages heels we worn by men and big fluffy hair pieces and makeup 🤣

You are talking about history but Monster Hunter is not set in an historical setting, is a complete fantasy world, from this point of view, your theory is not valid.

Also, since the creators and designers of the series have always had creativity freedom, why they never thought of implementing the crossdressing never before in the series? Why they choosed to do so only now?

[[Poang] MR.S1CK]

KoboldMage eredeti hozzászólása:

Poang MR.S1CK eredeti hozzászólása:

People wanted more choice? True

People asked for crossdressing? False

This is just an example:

https://steamcommunity.com/app/2246340/discussions/0/6761670113856141570/

Crossdressing was mentiones but just as a joke.


Capcom should've made it clear that they did it for centering the ESG score, it would have been less insulting for people intelligence.

The reason many people are saying the crossgender armor thing is woke is exactly because the localization team is part of Capcom, hence they speak for the whole company.

P.s.: don't select part of messages only because they fit your narrative.

Have you heard of Occam's razor before?

I think it's more likely that removing the gender lock on armour was just the easiest way to give everyone more armour options. This way, everyone can pick between the closed and open helmet options that used to be gender locked. If you'd rather have the cowboy hat and plague doctor mask from the Girros set than the goggles and facemask, you can.
You could spend a full days work going through all the armour sets in world picking out pieces that probably shouldn't have been gender locked in the first place.

What do you think the alternative is here? That someone goes through each piece of each armour set and decides what's acceptable for everyone to use, and what should stay gender locked?

Occam's razor doesn't have nothing to do with design choices.

If you told me they had to apply this principle to save on hardware resources and make the game engine more efficient, I would've said that I agree with you but we are talking about a kind of "resources" that don't need to be "limited" or "simplified" because there are hardware restrictions, also because nowadays storages have huge capacities in the terabytes order.

It wouldn't have required too much space or hardware resources to give players more creative choice instead of limiting the customization to only unlock the armors, also because Capcom is not a small developer, it's a giant one and it has all the economical resources to make as many content as possible.

[KoboldMage]

Poang MR.S1CK eredeti hozzászólása:

KoboldMage eredeti hozzászólása:

Have you heard of Occam's razor before?

I think it's more likely that removing the gender lock on armour was just the easiest way to give everyone more armour options. This way, everyone can pick between the closed and open helmet options that used to be gender locked. If you'd rather have the cowboy hat and plague doctor mask from the Girros set than the goggles and facemask, you can.
You could spend a full days work going through all the armour sets in world picking out pieces that probably shouldn't have been gender locked in the first place.

What do you think the alternative is here? That someone goes through each piece of each armour set and decides what's acceptable for everyone to use, and what should stay gender locked?

Occam's razor doesn't have nothing to do with design choices.

If you told me they had to apply this principle to save on hardware resources and make the game engine more efficient, I would've said that I agree with you but we are talking about a kind of "resources" that don't need to be "limited" or "simplified" because there are hardware restrictions, also because nowadays storages have huge capacities in the terabytes order.

It wouldn't have required too much space or hardware resources to give players more creative choice instead of limiting the customization to only unlock the armors, also because Capcom is not a small developer, it's a giant one and it has all the economical resources to make as many content as possible.

Occam's razor has everything to do with speculation around design choices.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Occam%27s_razor

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Popularly, the principle is sometimes paraphrased as "The simplest explanation is usually the best one."

I guarantee whatever conspiracy theory you've built up in your head is a more complicated
explanation than "This is an easy way to give players more choice"

Aside from that, you should already know from World and Rise that Capcom do add extra armours to the games. Have you seen something that says they won't be doing that for Wilds?

edit: You've also conveniently ignored my point about parts of armour sets not really needing to be gender locked