Monster Hunter Wilds

Monster Hunter Wilds

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The fact people are defending the public build of the beta is ridiculous
Im actually debating not getting a mh game at launch for once the ps5 and Xbox versions run bad pc is even worse if the later build is better than make that the public build if this is the build they want to show the public that's a scary sign a company wants to show as close to the product as possible and sell the product this clearly does the opposite and the fact they don't say the latest build isn't definitely stable also worrying too capcom has been lazy with recent games and this looks like to be one of them I'm hoping I'm wrong but until I can be proven wrong that launch build even on console will run stable i refuse to purchase it. And again a lot of cool stuff here just feels off too hit detection wise as well. Hope it all gets fixed btw I play on ps5 made post on pc to see their views since they have it worst
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Capybarasan Dec 5, 2024 @ 4:31am 
Originally posted by Goblin:
Originally posted by Capybarasan:

It's more to do with when the bad weather comes along. When that happens, colour disappears and it all looks brown and grey and washed out. It's actually quite a horrible effect which wouldn't be that bad if it didn't happen so damn much. I remember playing the beta rarely ever fighting under the nice bright sun. The storms are far too frequent.

That's the Fallow season. It's intentionally miserable.

Seasons were massively sped up for the beta, so people with only a short time to play got to experience them, should be different in the full release.

But that also means longer times in each season, including the fallow.

I get that it's intentionally miserable. They should just not do is so often because it is miserable, it makes the game look horrible. I hope you're right though and it becomes more infrequent on release.
Nebby Dec 8, 2024 @ 3:56am 
So one thing to point out. This isn't just a public build. It is a beta. It is intentionally showing off a worse off version of the game to allow the players to wiggle their way around and find out any kinks and issues. Afterall, a small team alone cant find EVERY issue, so get 500k players to do it. Never underestimate how fast a player can find bugs. Also this could be moreso a way to stress test servers to make sure they can run optimally at all times.
Sure you may not be happy with how it turned out, but thats normal for a beta, its not supposed to be polished and well rounded. In fact I don't expect it to be absolutely perfect day 1 either. I think it will be a very big difference in quality between beta and launch, but there'd still be issues a day 1 patch would need to solve
del_bosque_dol Dec 8, 2024 @ 4:36am 
MHWilds will not run as smooth as MHW and MHRise for a various reasons, but the main reason is not just about the optimization but your gears are getting aged.

I also suspect that day 1 patch will solve the problems. People get real about not only GPU but also CPU. You need to upgrade for WQHD or 4K gaming.
D. Flame Dec 8, 2024 @ 5:01am 
Originally posted by del_bosque_dol:
MHWilds will not run as smooth as MHW and MHRise for a various reasons, but the main reason is not just about the optimization but your gears are getting aged.

I also suspect that day 1 patch will solve the problems. People get real about not only GPU but also CPU. You need to upgrade for WQHD or 4K gaming.
The issue is that Wilds does not look significantly better than MHW in any way, but the performance is insanely worse. Age of equipment has nothing to do with that.
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KoboldMage Dec 8, 2024 @ 5:51am 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by del_bosque_dol:
MHWilds will not run as smooth as MHW and MHRise for a various reasons, but the main reason is not just about the optimization but your gears are getting aged.

I also suspect that day 1 patch will solve the problems. People get real about not only GPU but also CPU. You need to upgrade for WQHD or 4K gaming.
The issue is that Wilds does not look significantly better than MHW in any way, but the performance is insanely worse. Age of equipment has nothing to do with that.
Could you share some clips or screenshots to illustrate why you feel this way?
From what I've seen, Wilds does look significantly better than World.

Compare the Wildspire Waste trailer with what we saw of the Windward Plains a few months ago.
Or, for some actual gameplay comparisons, have a look at this video in the Ancient Forest in World, and compare it to this footage from the Scarlet Forest in Wilds
You can tell the tree leaves at the start of the World video are just a flat images moving around. Compare that to the trees in Wilds, which look so much more believable. Look at how much more foliage there is on the floor. Look at how much more detail there is in the terrain.
Last edited by KoboldMage; Dec 8, 2024 @ 5:55am
D. Flame Dec 8, 2024 @ 5:55am 
Originally posted by KoboldMage:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
The issue is that Wilds does not look significantly better than MHW in any way, but the performance is insanely worse. Age of equipment has nothing to do with that.
Could you share some clips or screenshots to illustrate why you feel this way?
From what I've seen, Wilds does look significantly better than World.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3359855800
KoboldMage Dec 8, 2024 @ 6:22am 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by KoboldMage:
Could you share some clips or screenshots to illustrate why you feel this way?
From what I've seen, Wilds does look significantly better than World.
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3359855800
From what I can see around all the combo information, the World clip has less foliage than Wilds, and the Wilds clip is in a desert. Not to mention the PNG World has on the floor to make it look like there's foliage and rocks on the ground, to avoid having to actually model it.
You can see your weapon digging furrows in the sand in Wilds, and it kicks up particles in the process. You've got cloth physics. The shadows are much better defined.

There's clearly a lot more definition in Wilds, even with what looks like rather aggressive upscaling in the Wilds clip.
D. Flame Dec 8, 2024 @ 6:44am 
Originally posted by KoboldMage:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3359855800
From what I can see around all the combo information, the World clip has less foliage than Wilds, and the Wilds clip is in a desert. Not to mention the PNG World has on the floor to make it look like there's foliage and rocks on the ground, to avoid having to actually model it.
You can see your weapon digging furrows in the sand in Wilds, and it kicks up particles in the process. You've got cloth physics. The shadows are much better defined.

There's clearly a lot more definition in Wilds, even with what looks like rather aggressive upscaling in the Wilds clip.
You are talking about technicalities. They are minor differences visually, but massive costs to performance. The Wilds clip looks blurrier because it is relying on DLSS JUST to hit 60FPS @1080p, and MHW still has like 111% more FPS.
KoboldMage Dec 8, 2024 @ 7:23am 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by KoboldMage:
From what I can see around all the combo information, the World clip has less foliage than Wilds, and the Wilds clip is in a desert. Not to mention the PNG World has on the floor to make it look like there's foliage and rocks on the ground, to avoid having to actually model it.
You can see your weapon digging furrows in the sand in Wilds, and it kicks up particles in the process. You've got cloth physics. The shadows are much better defined.

There's clearly a lot more definition in Wilds, even with what looks like rather aggressive upscaling in the Wilds clip.
You are talking about technicalities. They are minor differences visually, but massive costs to performance. The Wilds clip looks blurrier because it is relying on DLSS JUST to hit 60FPS @1080p, and MHW still has like 111% more FPS.
I disagree. Just compare the two forested areas. Wilds has considerably more detail than World.
If you don't think the graphical improvements Wilds has over World are worth the hit to performance, fair enough, but that's a very different discussion than "Wilds does not look significantly better than World".

Anecdotally, performance has improved since the OBT on PS5, and PC will supposedly see similar improvements:
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/monster-hunter-wilds-is-running-better-in-recent-console-previews-and-the-game-director-says-the-pc-version-will-see-the-same-level-of-framerate-improvement/
Hopefully we'll get a demo before release so we can actually measure performance ourselves, without having to rely on people eyeballing things.
D. Flame Dec 8, 2024 @ 7:29am 
Originally posted by KoboldMage:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
You are talking about technicalities. They are minor differences visually, but massive costs to performance. The Wilds clip looks blurrier because it is relying on DLSS JUST to hit 60FPS @1080p, and MHW still has like 111% more FPS.
I disagree. Just compare the two forested areas. Wilds has considerably more detail than World.
If you don't think the graphical improvements Wilds has over World are worth the hit to performance, fair enough, but that's a very different discussion than "Wilds does not look significantly better than World".

Anecdotally, performance has improved since the OBT on PS5, and PC will supposedly see similar improvements:
https://www.pcgamer.com/games/rpg/monster-hunter-wilds-is-running-better-in-recent-console-previews-and-the-game-director-says-the-pc-version-will-see-the-same-level-of-framerate-improvement/
Hopefully we'll get a demo before release so we can actually measure performance ourselves, without having to rely on people eyeballing things.
Cool, you're still wrong, but if you are happy with it, then I am happy for you. I am not able to similarly delude myself, sadly.

And I never trust game "journalists" on matters of judgement. They are extremely biased and kowtow to publishers because they rely on said publishers to feed them. It is a massive conflict of interest.

If they want people to believe the game is performing better now, then they need to prove it with a demo. The article's judgement is less than useless.
Antitonius Dec 8, 2024 @ 8:04am 
Can we stop making excuses?
Monster Hunter Wilds DEMO does in fact look significantly better than World in a bunch of situations. It does however SUFFER from the same cheap antialiasing and upscaling methods most recent titles tend to rely on, and their effects butcher the final image quality.
If the full build's base performance doesn't catch up to run properly without relying on them, then the game will indeed look no much better than World for half the performance.

I would also like to address the supposed "bad and miserable" effects of the weather cycle.. This is a matter of art direction, and it is very much welcome since it shows a level of extra care on aesthetics many titles seem to miss nowadays. Bringing it up in a discussion around performance and graphics is pointless.
KoboldMage Dec 8, 2024 @ 8:21am 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Cool, you're still wrong, but if you are happy with it, then I am happy for you. I am not able to similarly delude myself, sadly.
Have you even bothered to look at the videos I linked, or are you basing your entire opinion on your upscaled OBT experience? Because it really seems like the latter.

Originally posted by D. Flame:
And I never trust game "journalists" on matters of judgement. They are extremely biased and kowtow to publishers because they rely on said publishers to feed them. It is a massive conflict of interest.

If they want people to believe the game is performing better now, then they need to prove it with a demo. The article's judgement is less than useless.
Yes, thank you for the media literacy 101. I hoped you'd understand I wasn't saying to implicitly trust what they said, owing to my use of the word "anecdotally" right at the start, and the sentence I left below the link talking about how it would be better for us to measure performance ourselves with an actual demo, instead of relying on anecdotal reports of performance.

My point was that Capcom said they were going to improve the performance following the OBT, and we now have anecdotes claiming that performance has improved. Ergo, the released game will likely perform better than the OBT did. Do you need me to repeat how it would be better for us to have a demo to measure it ourselves?

Yes, game journalists have reason to exaggerate things. But you can use your common sense and take what they have to say with a pinch of salt. More so when the same author wrote about the OBT's performance problems last month.
Again, just in case you missed it, take it with a pinch of salt, use your common sense. Maybe they're exaggerating, but there'd need to be some truth for them to exaggerate in the first place.
D. Flame Dec 8, 2024 @ 8:37am 
Originally posted by KoboldMage:
Have you even bothered to look at the videos I linked, or are you basing your entire opinion on your upscaled OBT experience? Because it really seems like the latter.
I may have overlooked them. I only saw you like a game "journalist" article, and like I said, it is worse than worthless, so I will not be clicking it.

If you posted different video links, then I did in fact miss them, so if you could post them in reply to this post, then I will take a look.
KoboldMage Dec 8, 2024 @ 9:14am 
Originally posted by D. Flame:
Originally posted by KoboldMage:
Have you even bothered to look at the videos I linked, or are you basing your entire opinion on your upscaled OBT experience? Because it really seems like the latter.
I may have overlooked them. I only saw you like a game "journalist" article, and like I said, it is worse than worthless, so I will not be clicking it.

If you posted different video links, then I did in fact miss them, so if you could post them in reply to this post, then I will take a look.
I've been embedding them with URL tags. I can understand it looking like I just underlined things at random though 😄
Originally posted by KoboldMage:
Trailers:
Wildspire Wastes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULqY6yXn2S4&t=10s
Windward Plains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq_XkPyAjyE&t=144s

Gameplay:
Ancient Forest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K5PfaRHMFg
Scarlet Forest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znhltdmNy3A&t=120s
D. Flame Dec 8, 2024 @ 9:28am 
Originally posted by KoboldMage:
Originally posted by D. Flame:
I may have overlooked them. I only saw you like a game "journalist" article, and like I said, it is worse than worthless, so I will not be clicking it.

If you posted different video links, then I did in fact miss them, so if you could post them in reply to this post, then I will take a look.
I've been embedding them with URL tags. I can understand it looking like I just underlined things at random though 😄
Originally posted by KoboldMage:
Trailers:
Wildspire Wastes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULqY6yXn2S4&t=10s
Windward Plains: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nq_XkPyAjyE&t=144s

Gameplay:
Ancient Forest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_K5PfaRHMFg
Scarlet Forest: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znhltdmNy3A&t=120s
Cool.

After watching some of those videos I think you are missing the point.

I am not saying that Wilds doesn't look ever-so-slightly better; it does. I am simply saying that a 5 to 10% increase in visuals isn't worth 111% worse performance.

This already looks great:
https://youtu.be/O3R9tbA2buI?si=SHVRVHDq4OXJLtiZ

The uplift from MHWI to MHWds is minimal, and it isn't worth the blur, stutter, and drop to 60 FPS with DLSS vs MHWI running at around 130 FPS on the same hardware with no upscaler needed at all.

Like in your video of gameplay of the scarlet forest, there aren't even splashes showing up as the mount dashes through the water.
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