for the republic, part 2, brotherhood elimination.

[Jeruzalem]

is there a way not to eliminate the brotherhood and still complete this quest?

[Hugemetalfan]

yes, you can be friends with brotherhood and then ask the to help the NCR.

[Jeruzalem]

well, im friends with them, but i dont got any option of them helping the ncr. ive had veronica with me the whole time, did her missions, not really proved a high success. i also replaced their elder with hardin. those maybe not allowing me to ask them to fight along the ncr?

[richardharvey200]

Then redo the quest w/o Vern , you should get the option then .

[Mauno]

Keeping McNamara as Elder allows you to forge a truce between the Mojave BoS and the NCR.

Veronica's presence doesn't change anything, only the Elder choice.

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Killing them all is a good way to get some renewable cash, but not really worth it unless you're going Legion or House, since both require their erasure from the wasteland.

[Jeruzalem]

darnit, ive changed the elder so i cant make them fight with eachother. i dont want to shoot them too, the brotherhood has always helped me out :(

[Hentaisocial]

Serves you right for hating on McNamara.

[Jeruzalem]

FUUUU!!!

[Mauno]

The Mojave Brotherhood are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ anyway, not like that silly white knight CW BoS.

They may not all deserve to die, but that's a more just fate for them than being allowed to walk the wastes again.

[Zilkin]

Originally posted by Mauno:

The Mojave Brotherhood are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ anyway, not like that silly white knight CW BoS.

They may not all deserve to die, but that's a more just fate for them than being allowed to walk the wastes again.

Exactly. BoS aren't good guys they are neutral at best. F3 completely changed them from what they were in F1+2.

They used to be extremely elitistic and show contempt towards others, and in their minds they were only were keeping the civilization together and safe from the savage hordes. They did this with little regard toward others. In F3 they were changed to be pretty close to fairy tale knights.

[Jeruzalem]

so what, your suggesting i should choose for the enclave next fallout? i like the brotherhood, they are awesome.

[Mauno]

The Enclave were wiped out in Fallout 2, with mere remnants left. Not much to "choose" there. They were considered the bad guiz of FO2.

The BoS is a xenophobic cult, only interested in self-preservation and hoarding pre-war tech. Nothing nice at all about them, if you happen to be an outsider.

Its incredibly annoying how many people here seem to think the series started with Fallout 3.

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by Mauno:

The Mojave Brotherhood are ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ anyway, not like that silly white knight CW BoS.

They may not all deserve to die, but that's a more just fate for them than being allowed to walk the wastes again.

Maybe Elder Lyons just had an actual moral code. The different is weird, hence the Outcasts, but it at least helps some people...some. :p

[Jeruzalem]

Originally posted by Mauno:

The Enclave were wiped out in Fallout 2, with mere remnants left. Not much to "choose" there. They were considered the bad guiz of FO2.

The BoS is a xenophobic cult, only interested in self-preservation and hoarding pre-war tech. Nothing nice at all about them, if you happen to be an outsider.

Its incredibly annoying how many people here seem to think the series started with Fallout 3.

actually, there was an enclave base not far from megaton, north east of it, i believe. the base was ran by a computer, which you can convince to self distruct the base.

raven rock hill, thx to fallout wiki.

[Jeruzalem]

also, fallout 1 and 2 got nothing to do with fallout 3 and 4. the last 2 arnt continuing on the story of 1 and 2. actually, fallout 3 and new vegas are already 2 totally different stories.