What games are canon, according to fans?

[Thomastronaut]

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[NightmareGats]

Fallout 1, 2 and New Vegas. The other ones are just oficial fanfic, maybe Tactics is canon.

[Akko Chan]

^ I'm willing to grant fallout 1, 2 , 3 and New vegas because 3 didn't detach too far from the original lore.

However fallout 3 has glaring issues and some serious explaining to do to justify a lot of its problems like super mutants on the east coast or the Enclave crossing to the other side of the USA entirely.

Fallout 4, 76 and the new TV Show are a hot mess of poop in a paper bag. They have retconned and contradicted basically EVERYTHING of the original lore to the point where it isn't even the same IP anymore.

[Graceful Jabberwocky]

whatever you personally think is canon

[Tribe Reimanen]

Factually 3 and 4 are spinoffs, 1 2 and New Vegas the the true trilogy

[Thomastronaut]

Originally posted by Akko Chan:

However fallout 3 has glaring issues and some serious explaining to do to justify a lot of its problems like super mutants on the east coast

The super mutants in DC came from vault 87. Its experiment involved exposing humans to FEV.

[AC Denton]

Good thing fans don't get to decide that, because the vast majority of players don't pay attention to the lore nor understand it.

This is an example right here on this post: it was already explained why they're on the East Coast but player didn't know their lore:

Originally posted by Akko Chan:

fallout 3 has glaring issues and some serious explaining to do to justify a lot of its problems like super mutants on the east coast or the Enclave crossing to the other side of the USA entirely.

[Noodlesocks]

1,2 and New Vegas are OG canon. Everything else is Bethesda canon. 3 and 4 isn't too bad in regards to canon. They set it far enough away from the original games that they could have enough creative liberties without stepping too much on the lore established in the original games.

76 and the TV show is where they start to get wacky with it. Often rewriting lore that they themselves did not establish.

[Dexter in the Dark]

i hate to brake it, but only the IP holder gets to say whats canon or not, that means they are all canon

[ronvon]

gotta love gatekeeping the fallout series

[Vex Hilarius]

So many based fans here. I'm going to cry and possibly squirt.

But yes 1,2 and NV make up a grear trilogy of storytelling. The rest I consider poorly written fanficton.

[Vex Hilarius]

Originally posted by Thomastronaut:

Originally posted by Akko Chan:

However fallout 3 has glaring issues and some serious explaining to do to justify a lot of its problems like super mutants on the east coast

The super mutants in DC came from vault 87. Its experiment involved exposing humans to FEV.

Yes everyone knows that, the problem is how contrived they were thrown into the game, and how different Bethesda super mutants are compared to Mariposa mutants.

[Vex Hilarius]

Originally posted by ghostbuster6969:

i hate to brake it, but only the IP holder gets to say whats canon or not, that means they are all canon

Even when the IP holder explicitly states that they don't care about canon?

[Thomastronaut]

Originally posted by Vex Hilarius:

Originally posted by ghostbuster6969:

i hate to brake it, but only the IP holder gets to say whats canon or not, that means they are all canon

Even when the IP holder explicitly states that they don't care about canon?

Source?

[Mofuji]

1, 2 (minus all the garbage zany references), NV and Tactics.

3 could work if you ripped some stuff out and set it only a decade or so after the Great War.

[Vex Hilarius]

Originally posted by Thomastronaut:

Originally posted by Vex Hilarius:

Even when the IP holder explicitly states that they don't care about canon?

Source?

Google.

You can find multiple tweets, videos, etc of how Bethesda doesn't take into consideration what came before when writing new stories because they don't want to be tied down creatively.

Pete Hines on Twitter was a common hilarity before he left Bethesda. There was one where he got into a debate about the lore contradictions in 4 and he stated "not going to talk about lore in a series about talking mutants and ghouls".

More currently, Emil Pagliarulo on Twitter made a tweet how the US solider shooting a unarmed Canadian prisoner on TV in the intro of Fallout 1 was Nate from Fallout 4. After backlash he stated that Nate was actually the one that handed the gun to the soldier who shot the prisoner, not realising that soldier laughed about it. What a jokster.

Then you have Emil's overall crap view on writing which just adds to the mockery.

If that's not enough, the games alone should be proof. Every game Bethesda makes includes the Brotherhood and Super mutants. Originally. The super mutants were created at a single base out west. Now, they are made from vault 87, now the institute just has FEV, now West Virgina just dumps it in the water. Fallout 76 just has the brotherhood now before they were even a force. When Fallout 5 is set on the moon or another planet and super mutants and the brotherhood are just there for the most hamfisted reason, maybe you'll finally see.