Looking for a current and working save editor.

[@Innomen]

The karma system is stupid and I want to undo dumb karma changes. Example: "Stealing" from dead hostile's boxes and such should no more be a karma loss than searching the bodies is.

[Mauno]

Why would you need a save editor for that?

Just use the in-game console, or alternatively, simply ignore the utterly meaningless Karma mechanic.

[@Innomen]

In game console? Linky goodness to instructions? Thanks :) And many mods make use of karma. Also I like to role play.

[@Innomen]

See also: http://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/34994/?tab=1&navtag=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.nexusmods.com%2Fnewvegas%2Fajax%2Fmoddescription%2F%3Fid%3D34994%26preview%3D&pUp=1

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by Innomen:

Also I like to role play.

The karma system is entirely irrelevant to that, but then again, I tend to play with some mild Objectivism in my characters, so stealing doesn't matter to me.

[@Innomen]

"The karma system is entirely irrelevant to that"

Your opinion while valid for you is not mine. I want my character to accurately reflect my choices. I don't consider looting someone who just tried to kill me in a lawless setting the same as stealing from a friend. In fact I consider it closer to recycling.

[Landeril [BCK]]

The Karma System isn't irrelevent to RolePlaying a Character. A good Character don't steal, an evil one rarely works without caps. >.>

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Originally posted by Landeril:

The Karma System isn't irrelevent to RolePlaying a Character. A good Character don't steal, an evil one rarely works without caps. >.>

You'll need to define good and evil though, since those aren't universal concepts outside of D&D.

[Mauno]

Originally posted by Innomen:

In game console? Linky goodness to instructions? Thanks :)

http://fallout.gamepedia.com/Gamebryo_console_commands#Stats_and_character_manipulation

Look for the Karma-related commands.

I'd recommend you try out the Immersive Karma[www.nexusmods.com] mod. It removes all the unnecessary Karma messages and sounds.

Originally posted by Landeril:

The Karma System isn't irrelevent to RolePlaying a Character. A good Character don't steal, an evil one rarely works without caps. >.>

The system is entirely irrelevant to roleplaying. It's nigh impossible to be anything other than Good or Very Good by the end of the game. Besides, the reputation system effectively replaced the Karma system in New Vegas: Karma has no real impact on anything, reputation is what determines people's reactions.

When you roleplay, your ACTIONS are what define your character, not a broken game mechanic. You choose not to steal from certain people because you think it's evil, not because the game says it's wrong. You choose not to kill someone despite the game saying "it's okay, he's considered evil in the GECK".

Karma is a stupid mechanic. It's pretty much the only retardedly imbalanced system still in place: killing a single Fiend gives 100 Karma points... but stealing only makes you lose 5 points.

And this is why you shouldn't look at your Karma level when roleplaying. Instead, think of your actions and decide for yourself whether they are good, evil or something in between.

[Dosbilliam, Boring but Practical]

Hence my comment involving Objectivism; my characters are ALWAYS good because playing anything else makes me extremely uncomfortable, but they'll still steal anything useful they can find. I have more need for a roll of duct tape than the average NPC does.

[KitKatHexe]

someone just link a save editor that can remove effects I've been looking for the effect id for the alcohol effect because it won't wear of my character drank at the beginning of the game and the effect is still there after the boomers i've tried everything short of a working save editor

[KitKatHexe]

also flame wars and debates such as these are pointless just accept that neither of you are wrong but that doesn't make you right because:

OPINIONS!!!!! TADA!!!!

[KitKatHexe]

I rest my case until further notice

[JoeM723]

stop crying about karma it doesnt even make a difference in this game

[rallicknom]

What exactly do you mean by a "save editor" the only save editor I can think of removes obsolete scripts and other scripts from your save. How would editing a save have any effect on Karma? Besides that editing a save, if it were possible, would undoubtedly break your game when you loaded that save.

[KitKatHexe]

Originally posted by rallicknom:

What exactly do you mean by a "save editor" the only save editor I can think of removes obsolete scripts and other scripts from your save. How would editing a save have any effect on Karma? Besides that editing a save, if it were possible, would undoubtedly break your game when you loaded that save.

there are save editors for TES III:Morrowind ,TES IV:Oblivion, and TES V:Skyrim.
and the fallout 3 engine was made using the oblivion engine and then the new vegas engine was made using the fallout 3 engine all of these game engines were MADE BY BETHESDA!!!

I know this because I have extensive research on the elder scrolls and anything made from those games