game freezes in and around lake mead (and vault 11)

[strmtroopr]

game froze while i was exploring vault 11 for still in the dark, and while swimming from camp golf to the crashed bomber for volare.

my best guess is a load order issue since i'm absolutely abysmal at sorting load orders manually (and sorting with LOOT didn't work for viva new vegas reasons), but i think the issue has something to do with lake mead itself, but i've got no clue towards the freezing in vault 11.

as to the freezing itself, i can hear the ambience and the ambient music, but nothing else responds, and i need to close the NVHR command prompt to close the game.

load order:
FalloutNV.esm
DeadMoney.esm
HonestHearts.esm
OldWorldBlues.esm
LonesomeRoad.esm
GunRunnersArsenal.esm
ClassicPack.esm
MercenaryPack.esm
TribalPack.esm
CaravanPack.esm
JIP Selective-Fire.esm
FCOMaster.esm
New Vegas Redesigned 3.esm
Mojave Raiders.esm
TLD_Travelers.esm
YUP - Base Game + All DLC.esm
Functional Post Game Ending.esm
Mojave NPCs.esm
Mojave Wildlife (Vanilla-Style).esp
SomeguySeries.esm
CookCookTwo.esm
MojaveExpressCourierWork.esm
Ragdolls.esm
CCO - Follower Tweaks.esm
CaravanTravel.esp
CoitoErgoSum.esm
Better Character Creation.esm
The Frontier.esm
Functional Post Game Ending - YUP Patch.esm
Unofficial Patch NVSE Plus.esp
NVMIM.esp
YUP - NPC Fixes (Base Game + All DLC).esp
Crafting Consistency Fix.esp
ExRB.esp
ExRB_Cut-Sewers.esp
The Mod Configuration Menu.esp
CPI Icons.esp
JustAssortedMods.esp
NPCsSprint.esp
Follower Tweaks.esp
Real Recoil.esp
DelayDLCRedux.esp
JSawyer Ultimate.esp
Mojave Arsenal.esp
JIP Fast-Travel Anywhere.esp
WeaponRequirementSystem.esp
NVR3_JSU Patch.esp
NVR3_YUP Patch.esp
NVR3R - JSUE Patch.esp
NVR3R - YUP Patch.esp
Mojave Raiders.esp
NVR3_MojaveRaiders Patch.esp
KingOfTheRing.esp
MM Caravan Guard.esp
CookCookNewLook.esp
Titans of The New West.esp
Titans of The New West - Power Armor Sprint JVS.esp
Titans of The New West - Power Armor Sprint JAM.esp
MCMetalTesla.esp
Skill Items.esp
Classic Combat Armor Replacer Redux FNV.esp
Classic Metal Armor (Replacer).esp
Classic Lightweight Metal Armor Replacer.esp
Classic Metal Armor Replacer DLC.esp
MCMetalArmor.esp
ICE.esp
ClassicComputersTextureFixer.esp
brayduck_classic.esp
classic188.esp
classic188 - YUP.esp
NewVegasBounties.esp
NewVegasBountiesII.esp
NewVegasBountiesIII.esp
Russell.esp
nvb2_classic188_patch.esp
NVB2_Brayduck_Patch.esp
brayduck_yup_patch.esp
TheBetterAngels.esp
TheInheritance.esp
SomeguySeries Revamped.esp
ADOBE_ClassicAdobeSloan.esp
Classic Fallout Weapons Remastered v1.2.esp
The Classic Centaur Replacer.esp
momod.esp
CargoVertibirdFlyover.esp
Classic Leather Armor Replacer.esp
Classic Leather Armor Replacer Honest Hearts.esp
Classic Lightweight Leather Armor Replacer.esp
RadioactiveMuck.esp
Spore Plant Melee.esp
Ammo Boxes.esp
drgNV - Marcus Companion.esp
GorisCompanion.esp
CCO - Accessible New Vegas Welcome Sign.esp
CCO - Follower Sneak Attacks Add-on.esp
CCO - Follower Weapon Auto-Repair.esp
CCO - FT All DLC Patch.esp
CCO - Raul Crafting Add-on.esp
CCO - Rex Fetch Add-on.esp
Simple Explosive Entry.esp
XIII + J3X's Flesh Burnificating Plasma.esp
XIII + J3X's Flesh Burnificating Plasma_random.esp
Cruiser's FBP permanent skeletons fix.esp
CaravanTravel - TLD Patch.esp
JackalsExpanded.esp
Mojave Raiders - JSUE Patch.esp
CESxDLC.esp
Realistic Lead - Bullet Ballistics.esp
B42Dropmag.esp
Hitstop.esp
B42Inertia.esp
Fallout New Vegas Classic Fallout Music Old School Edition.esp
Cloud Shadows.esp
Interior Rain.esp
DNWeathers.esp
CC - Rain.esp
Highwayman.esp
MM's Lootable Gasoline.esp
Player Vertibird.esp
Bullet Impact Increased LOD.esp
FNVLODGen.esp
tmzLODadditions.esp
Strip Lights Region Fix.esp

tried disabling some select mods suspecting that they have something to do with the issue, but nothing changed, except possibly a longer time until it freezes, but the freezes weren't exactly consistent anyways. i'll list the current ones below

-strip lights region fix
mod description says this area is affected by it, so i disabled it and tested the game, and it still froze, though it did take a while to freeze this time
-aqua performa: strip performance fix
mod removes water LOD to improve performance, and i thought that through some logic that it's the lack of water LOD causing the issue, but it was not


it might be a memory issue, but the 4gb patch is installed and i have 16gb of ram, along with deleting most of my earlier saves every once in a while to save space

[Vex Hilarius]

Your mods aren't that much of an issue it's your load order. Besides Titans of the New West being obsolete as a new version is out. And you should really get rid of FCO.

YUP's esm should be directly under all the DLC for new vegas. And YUP's NPC esp should be directly under all other esms. Right now you have YUP overriding a whole bunch of mods since it's so low. But to be frank just moving them might not be enough. It requires some common sense and knowing what is in your mods to make a proper load order.

You can download FNVEdit and load up all your mods and see exactly what is in them and see conflicts that may be causing crashing, such as scripts.

Rule of thumb for proper load orders. If you have 2 mods that share ANYTHING, the one below it will be the "winner" when your boot the game up.

[strmtroopr]

Originally posted by Vex Hilarius:

Your mods aren't that much of an issue it's your load order. Besides Titans of the New West being obsolete as a new version is out. And you should really get rid of FCO.

YUP's esm should be directly under all the DLC for new vegas. And YUP's NPC esp should be directly under all other esms. Right now you have YUP overriding a whole bunch of mods since it's so low. But to be frank it requires some common sense and knowing what is in your mods to make a proper load order.

You can download FNVEdit and load up all your mods and see exactly what is in them and see conflicts that may be causing crashing, such as scripts.

Rule of thumb for proper load orders. If you have 2 mods that edit ANYTHING the same, the one below it will be the "winner" when your boot the game up.

alright, i'll do some reordering
a note about FCO and Titans of the New West, FCO is disabled as a plugin since i just needed it for new vegas redesigned 3's assets, and i am already using the 2.0 version of Titans of the New West

[Vex Hilarius]

Oh ok. So there's nothing really wrong that I can see. I don't use Titans so I thought the updated version would be called Titans 2 or something.

My only other advice would be to make sure any patches are loaded after the mods they patch. And any esms be loaded before any esps