Fallout: New Vegas

Fallout: New Vegas

View Stats:
Ty Tanium Sep 17, 2021 @ 6:28pm
NCR path, Legion Path or Independent New Vegas...???
Howdy Gamestars, 'sup?

So, everyone out there who's been playing through FONV for a while/ a long time/ forever... what's your favoured "storyline"?

You down with the NCR? Control of the Mojave to the State of California?

Maybe y'all a Legion unto yaself? Control of the Mojave to a totalitarian regime?

OR... what about a battle for the Independent State of Nevada... a self-governing, self-ruling "Neutral Nation" between NC and the East, exporting power from the Dam to the highest payer...

Whaddaya say gamestars?
Cheers,
T

P.S. Currently rocking out a push for an Independent Nevada...!!!
< >
Showing 1-15 of 15 comments
Heimdall313 Sep 18, 2021 @ 2:12am 
NCR: recreate a failed state in the ruins of that same completely failed state
Legion: recreate a failed state in the ruins of a different completely failed state
Mr. House: fail to create a theoretical dsytopia in the ruins of an actual dystopia
independent: give me jet or give me death
Last edited by Heimdall313; Sep 18, 2021 @ 2:13am
Sean Sep 18, 2021 @ 2:33am 
Originally posted by Heimdall313:
independent: give me jet or give me death
this
MeGoodEnglish Sep 18, 2021 @ 2:51am 
Mr. House, if you only see his action he is pretty much the most efficient and bloodless leader. At the same time doesnt control people in their private time.

NCR: Corruption, unfair and unjust society as well as the system is only good at paper but in practice riddled with power abuse, long time to adapt, corrupt politicians, ect.

Legion: They have a good aim / goal, but its betting with Caesar to live long enough. As well as it require path of blood and involve too much violence

Independent: Just creating chaos as smaller faction will fight each other for control. Since no more major faction threat. At the same time it only post - poned the major faction from taking Mojave now. But they will give it a decade or two. So back to square one, NCR? Legion? No Mr. House though. Or just staying Anarchy? Whats the point?

Mr. House cruel as it is, but his transition of power is the one with less blood. Just asking NCR to retreat nicely and dont want hostility. Legion got kicked out. And smaller faction pretty much wont try to fight each other.

At the same time Mr. House will sell cheap water and electricity to NCR. As well as giving a push for reformation in politics of NCR, making Kimball and Oliver dethroned. And giving Hanlon a chance to run for senator. Pretty much giving time for NCR to fix themselves and make them question their Imperialist and expansion method. But not by making NCR hurts too much or making them lose resource. In fact, its better for Mr. House to sell the electricity and water to NCR and have him run the Mojave with his high tech robots. Than NCR sending military personnel to Mojave, which cost a lot more money and lives.

If you like NCR, choose Mr. House as the ending. It pretty much left NCR in better state than NCR winning themselves.

If you like Mr. House, then do his quest obviously.

Legion is a nope because the plan is too dependent on Caesar well - being, also means a lot of bloodshed.
DrNewcenstein Sep 18, 2021 @ 4:51am 
NCR would quickly degenerate in to regional overlord on par with Caesar, simply because of lack of direct oversight and "bigger problems" in the political arena.

House robots/AI may decide the best way to save the human race is to eliminate it.

Caesar's methods are harsh but effective: no more superficial division in society because you're forced to work together. However, no freedom, either, and seriously questionable levels of protection by the Legion.

There is no "right" answer, only varying levels of "wrong".
NisseDood Sep 18, 2021 @ 11:26am 
Originally posted by DrNewcenstein:
NCR would quickly degenerate in to regional overlord on par with Caesar, simply because of lack of direct oversight and "bigger problems" in the political arena.

House robots/AI may decide the best way to save the human race is to eliminate it.

Caesar's methods are harsh but effective: no more superficial division in society because you're forced to work together. However, no freedom, either, and seriously questionable levels of protection by the Legion.

There is no "right" answer, only varying levels of "wrong".
Marcus in Jacobstown also had a good problem with the Legion.
Most people follow Ceasar not his ideologies, so once he dies the legion will slowly start to crumble.
Ty Tanium Sep 18, 2021 @ 1:01pm 
Howdy Gamestars, 'sup?

Thanks for your answers, lotsa good points and good rationale... let me tell ya what I'm thinking, and doing in this play-through.

Way I see it the NCR are the rock-solid bureaucracy, the slow, plodding country-managing government with a lot of officials all following the rules very carefully. Bureaucratic control over what you do and how you do it, wayyyyyyyy too much red-tape and high taxes. This facts are made pretty darned clear throughout the game. Yes, they have the resources, the cash, the personnel to occupy a country and annexe it but the "locals", in those situations, pretty much always get "absorbed" and forced to conform. What's the old saying, "ya can't fight city hall..."

Now, The Legion, harsh, brutal, no compassion, you either submit or die. A completely autocratic state, under one ruler, that demands absolute obedience and submission from the populace. These sort of systems have, historically speaking, never worked for too long. Too many people have this strange idea that "freedom and justice" should be available to all. An invasion of Nevada, and the taking of The Dam, are obviously a prelude to mounting an attempted invasion of New California. The Mojave, in effect, would become the new "frontline" and would become the staging ground for taking over the west coast.

So, the meat in the sandwich - The Mojave, Vegas, Nevada...

Seems to me that the people of Nevada are getting the raw end of every deal here. Taken out by slavers and sold off to the legion. Pushed around by the NCR in return for the roads being somewhat secure... funny, I don't come across too many patrols out there, the NCR are too busy holding strategic points and guarding The Dam and the river to have much time for anyone else. In fact, throughout the game you can see that what the NCR do they do for themselves, not the people of the Mojave.

This is where I come to consider Mr. House and his "Grand Plan". A grand plan alright with a human popsicle in charge...! Rule by fear, even under a benevolent ruler, is no rule at all and the fear would be, again, having one "mind" commanding the ultimate securitron army. Compare Mr. House to Ceasar and you'll see there's not so much difference.

The only difference I can see is that Ceasar wants loot, land and slaves.
Mr. House wants profit, land and subjects.

I am, at present, letting the NCR and Legion play tag along the river... that way they ain't paying attention to me. I am working to unite various factions across the Mojave or at least have them on my side. I am taking out strategic targets of both Legion and NCR to weaken their grip on the Mojave. Eventually I'll be taking over Vegas for the people of Freeside who have been segregated and excluded by the rich elite - with NCR help.

Damn... did I just type all that???

Suffice to say, "Nevada for The People by The People"
Cheers,
T
NisseDood Sep 18, 2021 @ 2:35pm 
I feel like the best ending overall for most people is helping NCR as much as possible but side with Mr.House in the end.
With some desicions you can make the NCR have a pretty good ending with Kimball and Oliver getting all the blame like they deserve with a Mr. House ending.
if we could ensure house's long reign, he'd probably be the one to go with, assuming he doesn't loose his desire to bring humanity back from the brink

if he looses interest in fixing the world, it's probably not going to end well
Akfiz Oct 8, 2021 @ 12:23am 
Mr.House all the way.
JUDGEMENT Oct 8, 2021 @ 11:56am 
I only did an independant new vegas run, it was pretty fun. You can do anything and wipe out any faction you dont like, i killed every one of them except BoS and Boomers (not counting the small ones).

im gonna do a legion one if i can fix my game.
tbh either ncr or yes man. both offer freedoms in every faction you have to interact with although the ncr requires some finesse in how you handle several factions (mostly kings, bos and khans come to mind, might be more idk)
Last edited by Bad Aim Bodyshot Barry; Oct 8, 2021 @ 3:16pm
Akasaki Oct 10, 2021 @ 9:21pm 
NCR or Mr. House.

NCR is doing NCR things and I don't care as long as Easy Pete don't give a crap. They respect me as the living legend so yes, why not ?

Mr. House is doing nerd sh-t and that's fine. He ready to give me almost everything I want so let he built his dream, free site and Mojave are my playground now. I gonna take a good care better than anyone.

The legion is crazy ride but so anticlimactic. Cannot even take rank in it, let alone become their king. I work better than the whole group but still called me a profligate, so I shot them in the nuts.

Independent is kinda irresponsible. You shaped the whole Mojave as you wish but walkaway like a loner virgin before Cass can f-ck you. Wtf.
Originally posted by neorayne62:
Howdy Gamestars, 'sup?

So, everyone out there who's been playing through FONV for a while/ a long time/ forever... what's your favoured "storyline"?

You down with the NCR? Control of the Mojave to the State of California?

Maybe y'all a Legion unto yaself? Control of the Mojave to a totalitarian regime?

OR... what about a battle for the Independent State of Nevada... a self-governing, self-ruling "Neutral Nation" between NC and the East, exporting power from the Dam to the highest payer...

Whaddaya say gamestars?
Cheers,
T

P.S. Currently rocking out a push for an Independent Nevada...!!!
NCR all the way.

Until we get an Enclave faction that doesnt want to kill everyone else
Akasaki Oct 10, 2021 @ 9:32pm 
Originally posted by kagenlimkz |trade.tf:
Originally posted by neorayne62:
Howdy Gamestars, 'sup?

So, everyone out there who's been playing through FONV for a while/ a long time/ forever... what's your favoured "storyline"?

You down with the NCR? Control of the Mojave to the State of California?

Maybe y'all a Legion unto yaself? Control of the Mojave to a totalitarian regime?

OR... what about a battle for the Independent State of Nevada... a self-governing, self-ruling "Neutral Nation" between NC and the East, exporting power from the Dam to the highest payer...

Whaddaya say gamestars?
Cheers,
T

P.S. Currently rocking out a push for an Independent Nevada...!!!
NCR all the way.

Until we get an Enclave faction that doesnt want to kill everyone else
The band of enclave old cool dude is cool. We play war thunder together sometime.
Originally posted by Akasaki:
NCR or Mr. House.

NCR is doing NCR things and I don't care as long as Easy Pete don't give a crap. They respect me as the living legend so yes, why not ?

Mr. House is doing nerd sh-t and that's fine. He ready to give me almost everything I want so let he built his dream, free site and Mojave are my playground now. I gonna take a good care better than anyone.

The legion is crazy ride but so anticlimactic. Cannot even take rank in it, let alone become their king. I work better than the whole group but still called me a profligate, so I shot them in the nuts.

Independent is kinda irresponsible. You shaped the whole Mojave as you wish but walkaway like a loner virgin before Cass can f-ck you. Wtf.
pretty based, ngl
< >
Showing 1-15 of 15 comments
Per page: 1530 50

Date Posted: Sep 17, 2021 @ 6:28pm
Posts: 15