vortex doesnt work

[doorlessmoon]

got stuck crashing when i enter freeside so i downloaded vortex and the anti crash mod and script editor and the extra ram one. both say active. i moved the mod folder to the same drive. it doesnt work. im done watching crappy videos on it.

[Damon]

Remove all mods except 4gb patcher since it's automatic anyway.

Install xNVSE here: https://github.com/xNVSE/NVSE/releases.

After it you can install this with Vortex: https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/58277.

For me those are the ultimate fix for Fallout New Vegas. Crashes very rarely.

[stcaFylnO]

I know very little about using mods and loaders. I followed the pinned topics, but used Vortex instead, and everything is working much better (along with recovering some corrupted saves). I have Vortex, NVAC, NSE, and YUP.

Somehow, Vortex set me up with NSE, and I'm not even sure how it happened, I was just clicking on the message alerts, as Vortex mentioned there were issues.

Make sure the NVAC log gets created and populated after launching game, otherwise, it means the NVAC isn't functioning. Also, I couldn't figure out how ot use NVAC in Vortex, so I just installed it manually as instructed.

[Neorro]

there are 2 4gb patcher make sure your using the the latest one and not the discontinued version, annoingly both are on top files so easy mistake. Dont use the stutter remover mod, that one freezes most users, instead use NVTF - New Vegas tick fixer that one made my game most stable after trying all other.

Also dont use the default save those are so easy to corrupt and somtimes the effect of picking up some item or finnish quest wont screw you over until several hours in later.
CASM helps with this and feels like it even loads faster and since installing the mod never had the forever loadingschreen bug.

[Damon]

Originally posted by Neorro:

there are 2 4gb patcher make sure your using the the latest one and not the discontinued version, annoingly both are on top files so easy mistake. Dont use the stutter remover mod, that one freezes most users, instead use NVTF - New Vegas tick fixer that one made my game most stable after trying all other.

Also dont use the default save those are so easy to corrupt and somtimes the effect of picking up some item or finnish quest wont screw you over until several hours in later.
CASM helps with this and feels like it even loads faster and since installing the mod never had the forever loadingschreen bug.

Stutter and such is likely due to ENB or similar because those don't work properly,. I always avoid such mods. If you really want super graphics so check the Fallout 4 - New Vegas mod, that's if you have Fallout 4.

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Damon:

Stutter and such is likely due to ENB or similar because those don't work properly,.

ENB works absolutely properly if you use it properly.

If you have a system with outdated drivers and a whackton of game overlays active and can't be bothered to properly set a few things in the ENB ini, sure you're gonna have issues.

Take 20 minutes to keep your PC in good order and actually set up ENB properly, and you won't have issues.

[Damon]

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Originally posted by Damon:

Stutter and such is likely due to ENB or similar because those don't work properly,.

ENB works absolutely properly if you use it properly.

If you have a system with outdated drivers and a whackton of game overlays active and can't be bothered to properly set a few things in the ENB ini, sure you're gonna have issues.

Take 20 minutes to keep your PC in good order and actually set up ENB properly, and you won't have issues.

Tbh I think you simply have learned to live with ENB in this game. Superior Graphics > everything. I just can't stand the ENB, it's simply terrible.

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Damon:

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

ENB works absolutely properly if you use it properly.

If you have a system with outdated drivers and a whackton of game overlays active and can't be bothered to properly set a few things in the ENB ini, sure you're gonna have issues.

Take 20 minutes to keep your PC in good order and actually set up ENB properly, and you won't have issues.

Tbh I think you simply have learned to live with ENB in this game. Superior Graphics > everything. I just can't stand the ENB, it's simply terrible.

Nothing to "learn to live with". It literally works perfectly. If you actually take 30 seconds to configure the ini.

It takes me more time and more edits to get the normal NV inis in playable condition.

[Damon]

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Nothing to "learn to live with". It literally works perfectly. If you actually take 30 seconds to configure the ini.

It takes me more time and more edits to get the normal NV inis in playable condition.

Care to show me the guide telling you how to do for it to take only 30 seconds to fix?

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Damon:

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Nothing to "learn to live with". It literally works perfectly. If you actually take 30 seconds to configure the ini.

It takes me more time and more edits to get the normal NV inis in playable condition.

Care to show me the guide telling you how to do for it to take only 30 seconds to fix?

Even better, I'll give you the copypasta so it'll take you <5 seconds.

Go into enblocal.ini

Set the following -

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=true
DisablePreloadToVRAM=true
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=true
ReservedMemorySizeMb=256
VideoMemorySizeMb= [your VRAM size}
EnableCompression=true
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

Done.

Edit: If you have invisible torsos with Spice of Life, make sure that the following is set -

FixTransparencyBugs=false

The problem is that people are so lazy, they can't be arsed to A) use Google for a couple minutes, or B) toggle settings to see what makes things better and learn for themselves.

Just to clarify, it's DisableDriverMemoryManager=true that fixes the massive camera turning stutters people complain about with ENB.

[Damon]

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Originally posted by Damon:

Care to show me the guide telling you how to do for it to take only 30 seconds to fix?

Even better, I'll give you the copypasta so it'll take you <5 seconds.

Go into enblocal.ini

Set the following -

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=true
DisablePreloadToVRAM=true
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=true
ReservedMemorySizeMb=256
VideoMemorySizeMb= [your VRAM size}
EnableCompression=true
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

Done.

Edit: If you have invisible torsos with Spice of Life, make sure that the following is set -

FixTransparencyBugs=false

The problem is that people are so lazy, they can't be arsed to A) use Google for a couple minutes, or B) toggle settings to see what makes things better and learn for themselves.

Just to clarify, it's DisableDriverMemoryManager=true that fixes the massive camera turning stutters people complain about with ENB.

Thanks and I tested it but nah.. Still stutter there and here and also uncomfortable unrealistic graphics. Do you really have 100% stutter-free ENB in this game? Or you just "forgot" about it?

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Damon:

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Even better, I'll give you the copypasta so it'll take you <5 seconds.

Go into enblocal.ini

Set the following -

ExpandSystemMemoryX64=true
DisableDriverMemoryManager=true
DisablePreloadToVRAM=true
EnableUnsafeMemoryHacks=true
ReservedMemorySizeMb=256
VideoMemorySizeMb= [your VRAM size}
EnableCompression=true
AutodetectVideoMemorySize=false
ReduceSystemMemoryUsage=true

Done.

Edit: If you have invisible torsos with Spice of Life, make sure that the following is set -

FixTransparencyBugs=false

The problem is that people are so lazy, they can't be arsed to A) use Google for a couple minutes, or B) toggle settings to see what makes things better and learn for themselves.

Just to clarify, it's DisableDriverMemoryManager=true that fixes the massive camera turning stutters people complain about with ENB.

Thanks and I tested it but nah.. Still stutter there and here and also uncomfortable unrealistic graphics. Do you really have 100% stutter-free ENB in this game? Or you just "forgot" about it?

100% stutter free.

If you have "unrealistic" graphics, it's because you deliberately chose a preset that didn't look like what you wanted - that's your problem, not ENBs problem. ENB can look like whatever you want.

And on the topic of presets - watch your GPU usage. If you, again deliberately, chose a preset that's too heavy for your PC, that's your own fault and not the fault of ENB itself. If by stutters you mean low FPS, sure - that's a problem if you use one of the presets that's just a performance hog. Most reputable ENB presets say in the description if they are meant for real play or for screenshots. Most offer multiple performance options.

Here's some streamed gameplay with ENB enabled. The transparent weapons are due to the ReShade raytracing I was testing at the time, and aren't ENB related. Oh yeah, you can run raytracing in NV without making it unplayable too, just FYI. Again, it just takes a little time and effort.

https://youtu.be/sQ9dNKJcla0

Note - using TTW, so this is gameplay from the Capital Wasteland.

There is a fair amount of me faffing about with settings in the middle. And the end. If you don't believe I'm using ENB, there's a bit near the end with me turning it on and off a few times.

[Damon]

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Originally posted by Damon:

Thanks and I tested it but nah.. Still stutter there and here and also uncomfortable unrealistic graphics. Do you really have 100% stutter-free ENB in this game? Or you just "forgot" about it?

100% stutter free.

If you have "unrealistic" graphics, it's because you deliberately chose a preset that didn't look like what you wanted - that's your problem, not ENBs problem. ENB can look like whatever you want.

And on the topic of presets - watch your GPU usage. If you, again deliberately, chose a preset that's too heavy for your PC, that's your own fault and not the fault of ENB itself. If by stutters you mean low FPS, sure - that's a problem if you use one of the presets that's just a performance hog. Most reputable ENB presets say in the description if they are meant for real play or for screenshots. Most offer multiple performance options.

Here's some streamed gameplay with ENB enabled. The transparent weapons are due to the ReShade raytracing I was testing at the time, and aren't ENB related. Oh yeah, you can run raytracing in NV without making it unplayable too, just FYI. Again, it just takes a little time and effort.

https://youtu.be/sQ9dNKJcla0

Note - using TTW, so this is gameplay from the Capital Wasteland.

There is a fair amount of me faffing about with settings in the middle. And the end. If you don't believe I'm using ENB, there's a bit near the end with me turning it on and off a few times.

Ah there's the answer for my question. What is stutter for me = hiccups. If it's low fps so you should simply say lag. Also in your video the lightning looks horrible unlike IRL or vanilla.

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Damon:

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

100% stutter free.

If you have "unrealistic" graphics, it's because you deliberately chose a preset that didn't look like what you wanted - that's your problem, not ENBs problem. ENB can look like whatever you want.

And on the topic of presets - watch your GPU usage. If you, again deliberately, chose a preset that's too heavy for your PC, that's your own fault and not the fault of ENB itself. If by stutters you mean low FPS, sure - that's a problem if you use one of the presets that's just a performance hog. Most reputable ENB presets say in the description if they are meant for real play or for screenshots. Most offer multiple performance options.

Here's some streamed gameplay with ENB enabled. The transparent weapons are due to the ReShade raytracing I was testing at the time, and aren't ENB related. Oh yeah, you can run raytracing in NV without making it unplayable too, just FYI. Again, it just takes a little time and effort.

https://youtu.be/sQ9dNKJcla0

Note - using TTW, so this is gameplay from the Capital Wasteland.

There is a fair amount of me faffing about with settings in the middle. And the end. If you don't believe I'm using ENB, there's a bit near the end with me turning it on and off a few times.

Ah there's the answer for my question. What is stutter for me = hiccups. If it's low fps so you should simply say lag. Also in your video the lightning looks horrible unlike IRL or vanilla.

No, if it's low FPS I would say "low FPS". Low FPS has nothing to do with lag. One is a metric of how many frames are displayed per second, one is a perceived amount of network latency in an online game. They aren't comparable.

And that video is stutter free, runs at a consistent FPS, and is lag free - since it's not an online game.

As to the lighting - it's literally path traced lighting. It's about the most "accurate" lighting you can get in a game. Whether you like it aesthetically, it's more "realistic" than vanilla, where light has no interaction with the environment.

You can see at the end when disabling ENB/ReShade, for instance. The shadows under the planters and around the lamp posts in the parking lot for instance. Those areas, with no direct or significant reflected light, are of completely equal brightness to the rest of the scene. There's no ambient occlusion, no dynamic shadows, not even a real lightmap. Vanilla NV's lighting was bad even when it came out, and it looks dreadful now.

Every object in vanilla looks like it's floating. Nothing casts a shadow or occludes light (aside from the hacked stencil shadows used for the player and NPCs, which are what cause the see-through guns with RT) in any way, realistic or not. It looked OK in Morrowind, not so much in 2010.

Edit: The blown out interior light fixtures are also a problem with the ReShade/ENB interaction. Either one alone doesn't have the same issues.

[Salamand3r-]

Final thoughts - I'm done debating with a private-profile ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥.

ENB doesn't cause "stutter" issues when configured correctly. You can see proof of that in virtually every YouTube video featuring New Vegas made in the last 8 years. Almost all of them use it.

At this point, I have a strong feeling you're just trolling - inventing new definitions for things like "lag" and debating QEDs are good indicators - and I won't indulge you any further.

Edit: For technical clarity, what you are referring to as "stutter" or "hiccups" is correctly referred to as "inconsistent frame times" or "poor frame pacing". In New Vegas - ENB or not - that's generally caused by the mismatch between the engine's 64Hz tickrate and the 60FPS framerate cap. Use NVTF.

[Damon]

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Originally posted by Damon:

Ah there's the answer for my question. What is stutter for me = hiccups. If it's low fps so you should simply say lag. Also in your video the lightning looks horrible unlike IRL or vanilla.

No, if it's low FPS I would say "low FPS". Low FPS has nothing to do with lag. One is a metric of how many frames are displayed per second, one is a perceived amount of network latency in an online game. They aren't comparable.

And that video is stutter free, runs at a consistent FPS, and is lag free - since it's not an online game.

As to the lighting - it's literally path traced lighting. It's about the most "accurate" lighting you can get in a game. Whether you like it aesthetically, it's more "realistic" than vanilla, where light has no interaction with the environment.

You can see at the end when disabling ENB/ReShade, for instance. The shadows under the planters and around the lamp posts in the parking lot for instance. Those areas, with no direct or significant reflected light, are of completely equal brightness to the rest of the scene. There's no ambient occlusion, no dynamic shadows, not even a real lightmap. Vanilla NV's lighting was bad even when it came out, and it looks dreadful now.

Every object in vanilla looks like it's floating. Nothing casts a shadow or occludes light (aside from the hacked stencil shadows used for the player and NPCs, which are what cause the see-through guns with RT) in any way, realistic or not. It looked OK in Morrowind, not so much in 2010.

There's hiccups in the video which I already pointed out in my post.