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Akboris Feb 14, 2021 @ 7:00am
Not a fan of the DLC
Ive played this game for an ungodly amount of time, and after playing all the DLCs in sequence, I've got to say, im not a fan and they dont really hold a candle to the base game for me. Im playing a new playthrough and ive got to say im not motivated to start any of them - because in ways they feel like a chore.

Dead Money - great story and characters and setting, but total chore for me - this DLC is just straight up annoying, to the point that its writer admits that its meaning is lost by the ending.

Honest Hearts - this one I kinda like, but its not super interesting, all the characters except Graham kinda suck and the side quests are very dull. Its Honest enough, as it doesnt go out of its way to piss you off like DM.

Old World Blues - I think this one is kinda cool but again super chorey to me, fetch quests, annoying characters and BULLET SPONGE enemies if you dont play the DLC at the exact level it wants you to.

Lonesome Road - worst written DLC. Ulysses is a pretentious self-insert edgelord, the map is linear, the story is linear and giving the main character a dumb backstory is big BAD.
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Rahlence Feb 14, 2021 @ 7:18am 
I played through them all once, awhile ago. I've been unable to bring myself to play through them since. I can play through the base game and whatever mod content I throw in, but I can't do the dlc's.

DM woulda been much better if it didn't go out of its way to be annoying.
HH was just...bland.
OWB was alright for one playthrough, but if you fully explore it, that's it. Not really replayable, imo.
LR was a total snoozefest. That backstory was total garbage and it plays like a crappy fallout fps.
Mr_Faorry Feb 14, 2021 @ 7:19am 
Fallout 3 while the entire game missed the mark it more or less nailed its dlc, then New Vegas came and did the exact opposite where it nailed the base game and missed the mark with the DLC.
Akboris Feb 14, 2021 @ 8:54am 
Originally posted by FELIPE #SantosFC:
''worst written DLC. Ulysses is a pretentious self-insert edgelord, the map is linear, the story is linear and giving the main character a dumb backstory is big BAD.''
I know this is all a matter of opinion, but I really didn't see any arguments here pal.

How does the story and map being linear not render as an argument lol
SanJaySaurus Feb 14, 2021 @ 9:46am 
Nice OPINIONS
ureaditwrong Feb 14, 2021 @ 12:19pm 
Dead Money- I can understand this opinion but the meaning is exemplified at the end when theoretically, you have to let go of either the gold or all your equipment you aquired throughout the playthrough. It's about letting go. Though, it is kinda nullified when you consider that we could just toggle god mode to carry all the stuff out.

Honest Hearts- It's supposed to be uninteresting because the main plot is actually the story of the survivalist and the history of Zion. The idea is that, if you're apathetic about the plot and setting, you would just rush through the story and side with Daniel, who clearly has a worse perception of the situation in Zion, thus ignorantly tarnishing all that the survivalist worked towards. Or, you would explore Zion and learn about the survivalist, and be compelled to side with Graham, preserving a future for his legacy.

Old World Blues- agreed

Lonesome Road- I can understand why he might be an edgelord but why is he a self-insert? Also, the map is supposed to be linear as the protagonist is walking a road. And why is his backstory dumb?
Mr_Faorry Feb 14, 2021 @ 4:10pm 
Originally posted by ureaditwrong:
It's about letting go. Though, it is kinda nullified when you consider that we could just toggle god mode to carry all the stuff out.
You don't even need to do that, if you learn how the sneak key works (and given it's a forced stealth dlc for the most part you should have a firm grasp by this point) you can just sneak past Elijah with all the gold and blow up up with some C4 you placed beforehand.

Originally posted by ureaditwrong:
I can understand why he might be an edgelord but why is he a self-insert? Also, the map is supposed to be linear as the protagonist is walking a road. And why is his backstory dumb?
Not OP (obviously) but giving a backstory to the player character who previously didn't have one is just unfathomably stupid. Before Lonesome Road your character could be anything, a boxer from down Mexico that had never even heard of the NCR, an Ex-Legion Slave escaping from The Legion, a Merc from up north who'd never heard of The Legion. You could be anything and the only concrete fact was that you took one the one courier job (maybe you were just short on caps, or maybe you were looking for a change of profession, it's up to you).
Then along came Lonesome Road and said "no, you don't get to do that anymore, you're now a career courier from California who has amnesia and that's all you'll ever get to be going forward". Giving a backstory to the player character who previously didn't have one hampered roleplay so much since now you couldn't be any character you wanted, you are always a career courier from California who has amnesia.

Also Ulysses is a self insert because he is what you get when Chris Avellone doesn't like something (he did the same with Kreia in Kotor 2). Basically Chris will make a character as a mouthpiece for him to ♥♥♥♥♥ about the franchise he's in and say how he thinks it should be, so in Ulysses case he's ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ and moaning about how he doesn't like all the societal progress that's been made (in a franchise that explores how humanity moves on from the Apocalypse and rebuilds) and how he wants to nuke everything to wipe the slate clean and have everyone go back to grubbing in the dirt as scavengers like in Todd Howards games. He originally wrote things so that Ulysses would nuke everything with no way to stop him, but JE Sawyer thankfully stepped in and told Chris he couldn't do that so as his little petty piece of revenge he quickly wrote the Tunnellers to 'eventually destroy everything' to get his way anyway. Unlike nuking everything though the whole tunneller ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ can be ignored since it doesn't make any ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ sense that these frail, scared of light, and melee only creatures can overrun anything bigger than a ♥♥♥♥♥♥ run down farm.
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Akasaki Feb 14, 2021 @ 6:20pm 
All dlc have their down side and I understand what you mean.

For me, i love how DM being suck (and awesome) like this. The dlc try to make you feel depressed and frustrated and helplessnand it done perfectly.

Joshua (f-cking) Graham is a shiny star in the Zion. This monk is so badass and scare the crap out of Caesars. Make other npc looks kinda lame in comparison. Especially Daniel.

Ulysses try to bore player with his talk no jutsu is cool in itself. But I'm not a fan of it. His motivation and story look kinda forced and screwed the courier's blank background concept...
FedEx Noelle Feb 14, 2021 @ 6:53pm 
I absolutely dreaded Dead Money the first time, but now I love it.
I hate Honest Hearts, the Burnt Man makes it better though, i'm not a huge fan of Old World Blues but some fun can be had with certain builds.

Lonesome Road... where to start with that train wreck? I hate every second of the divide, Ulysses is an overwritten character that I literally just kill by the end because I hate the sound of his voice. It's an attempt to have a badass character with a scratchy voice, but not quite there.

Fallout 3's DLC... can't believe i'm saying this, but I had way more fun with Fallout 3's DLC. But the base game of Fallout New Vegas remains one of my favorite games ever.
Vex Hilarius Feb 14, 2021 @ 7:05pm 
You know despite NV being my favorite Fallout I would say 3 does its DLC better overall. Not saying all of 3's DLC were better than NVs but as a whole its better. NV's DLC felt too connected but at the same time less coherent with the base game. 3 offers more variety while still having more of a complete package with the base game. I still think The Pitt and Old World Blues are my favorite from either game tho. And Operation Anchorage and Honesy Hearts feel kinda lame.
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pete4791 Feb 15, 2021 @ 10:17am 
Yeah, the base game is pretty awesome. Most fans seem to love Old World Blues and Lonesome Road; I actually liked Dead Money and Honest Heart a lot better. I don't feel I missed anything on replays not playing the DLCs.
UCEY Feb 15, 2021 @ 11:35am 
I like Old World Blues well enough. I managed to beat it under the suggested level
Salamand3r- Feb 15, 2021 @ 12:57pm 
I love OWB just for the voice acting and actors. James Urbaniak is always a joy to hear in action.

The rest are take it or leave it for me. Not a fan of how Lonesome Road gives the Courier too much backstory, but it's decently fun to play.
UCEY Feb 15, 2021 @ 1:05pm 
Originally posted by Salamand3r-:
I love OWB just for the voice acting and actors. James Urbaniak is always a joy to hear in action.

The rest are take it or leave it for me. Not a fan of how Lonesome Road gives the Courier too much backstory, but it's decently fun to play.
I have a love-hate relationship with Lonesome Road.
OH! MY CAR Feb 15, 2021 @ 3:34pm 
Yeah, I never bothered playing any of them.

Just always annoying to start when you lose your main companion and maybe your gear.

If I could just port in and run around with Raul, I probably would have done them all.
UCEY Feb 15, 2021 @ 5:16pm 
Originally posted by OH! MY CAR:
Yeah, I never bothered playing any of them.

Just always annoying to start when you lose your main companion and maybe your gear.

If I could just port in and run around with Raul, I probably would have done them all.
I'd say Gun Runner's Arsenal and Old World Blues are the best
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