Is Fallout really dead?

[Crabsgoodeats]

Whether you love or hate the Fallout show, Bethesda or Todd, or argue which Fallout is the best I'm just glad that Fallout has been getting more attention but people have been saying Fallout is dead. I'm confused since the biggest Fallout game right now is 4 on Steam and 76 reached a peak of 1 million players before also a lot of Fallout games are getting more players than ever like New Vegas. I see some people saying "The series is dead" or "Bethesda ruined everything" and it's confusing whether people are saying Fallout is dead or being revived.

[ureaditwrong]

Fallout is reborn. It's no longer an RPG series but a live-service FPS with a cinematic universe. RPG fans are moving away and normies are coming in. It's a tale as old as neoliberalism.

[Ladez]

There is a schism in the fanbase between people who dislike the direction Bethesda is taking the series and people who like it. It's been going on ever since Bethesda took over the franchise and released Fallout 3.

People saying "Fallout is dead" fall into the former camp. It's up to you whether you believe that. If you like what Bethesda is putting out, the franchise is very much alive and well.

[Crabsgoodeats]

Originally posted by Crabsgoodeats:

Originally posted by ureaditwrong (xigg/xer):

Fallout is reborn. It's no longer an RPG series but a live-service FPS with a cinematic universe. RPG fans are moving away and normies are coming in. It's a tale as old as neoliberalism.

Whats wrong with having new fans who like other stuff?

[Gillman]

Fallout is now just another skin-suit franchise, one among many now. It’s been long since twisted from its original form and dumbed down for the masses. It still has the iconography of Fallout, which people cheer and clap for, but it’s all surface-level without any depth. What I think you fail to realize is that popularity does not equal quality, which new Fallout heavily lacks. Fallout isn’t dead, but rather it is undead, just a shambling corpse of what it used to be, without its key aspects of humanity within it.

[Tribe Reimanen]

Singleplayer games cant die.

[Goof]

fallout is seeing an all time engagement, i have no idea what op is talking about

[pipster_372]

Some people love to declare games dead. No idea why, they seem to require little reason for doing so. Though Xbox's recent layoffs aren't an encouraging sign for a Fallout 5 sometime in the next 10 years.

[Melkorn]

Calling a single player game dead is kinda confusing

[Gillman]

Originally posted by ✪Reimanen:

Singleplayer games cant die.

Originally posted by Kingced4:

Calling a single player game dead is kinda confusing

I'm pretty sure OP is talking about Fallout as whole, like the franchise continuing forward.

[Tribe Reimanen]

Originally posted by Gillman:

Originally posted by ✪Reimanen:

Singleplayer games cant die.

Originally posted by Kingced4:

Calling a single player game dead is kinda confusing

I'm pretty sure OP is talking about Fallout as whole, like the franchise continuing forward.

I hope it is. The new Lovecraftian ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ makes me want to kill myself. Im not even a "Bethesda fallout hater" because i love fallout 3 and i loved the show but the future of fallout game wise looks bleak as ♥♥♥♥.

[joey]

The people who say this aren't talking about "Fallout the franchise", but rather Fallout the RPG, Fallout the world.

Like Gillman said, the only thing left is Fallout's iconography.
The most blatant example of this is the BoS. This small, reclusive faction with the only goal to hoard advanced pre-war technology out of distrust of others, is suddenly a gigantic, interventionist army of.. uhh.. freedom fighters? Generic good guys.

BoS was always a minor faction, but because Bethesda saw Power Armor on the cover of Fallout 1 they assumed the BoS was the central faction of its world. The ignorance is multi-layered since Power Armor = BoS is also a false equivalent. The armor came first.

[rage]

Originally posted by joey:

The people who say this aren't talking about "Fallout the franchise", but rather Fallout the RPG, Fallout the world.

Like Gillman said, the only thing left is Fallout's iconography.
The most blatant example of this is the BoS. This small, reclusive faction with the only goal to hoard advanced pre-war technology out of distrust of others, is suddenly a gigantic, interventionist army of.. uhh.. freedom fighters? Generic good guys.

BoS was always a minor faction, but because Bethesda saw Power Armor on the cover of Fallout 1 they assumed the BoS was the central faction of its world. The ignorance is multi-layered since Power Armor = BoS is also a false equivalent. The armor came first.

Bethesda based their version of Fallout on the opening cinematic of FO1 without doing anything else.

[Gillman]

Originally posted by rage:

Originally posted by joey:

The people who say this aren't talking about "Fallout the franchise", but rather Fallout the RPG, Fallout the world.

Like Gillman said, the only thing left is Fallout's iconography.
The most blatant example of this is the BoS. This small, reclusive faction with the only goal to hoard advanced pre-war technology out of distrust of others, is suddenly a gigantic, interventionist army of.. uhh.. freedom fighters? Generic good guys.

BoS was always a minor faction, but because Bethesda saw Power Armor on the cover of Fallout 1 they assumed the BoS was the central faction of its world. The ignorance is multi-layered since Power Armor = BoS is also a false equivalent. The armor came first.

Bethesda based their version of Fallout on the opening cinematic of FO1 without doing anything else.

Hey,... to be fair to Bethesda, they also probably watched the opening cinematic to Fallout 2. Give them some credit at least.

[Vex Hilarius]

Sadly, Fallout 4 was the highest selling game in the series, and 76 is making a minor comeback too, so it's not monetarily dead, we will have to see how Fallout 5 performs. I genuinely hope that ES6 flops and Microsoft cans Bethesda like they did with all these other studios. That way there will be a chance that the series will be given to a developer that sees more than just iconography.

Creatively it's dead of course, since you can almost guarantee what Fallout 5 will be about. You're from a vault and have to rescue some family member who left and the super mutants and brotherhood would be there. Bethesda could put fallout 5 on the moon and the brotherhood and super mutants will be there. Emil won't put in any effort and the plot will be full of awful writing, and it won't even be lore friendly to the game that came before it let alone the rest of the series. That's Bethesda's attitude towards the series. this isn't just me being hyperbolic.

[rage]

You have all this lore, setting, world space and we still start in a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ vault having to find someone?