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[意味のない人生]

That's how most TV and movie adaptations of video games have gone over the years. Not really surprised the Fallout TV show turned out like garbage.

[talm bout dang ol bugs man]

I agree, and I thoroughly enjoyed the show. It's an official fanfic more than canon lmao. The NCR wiki is a mess because people are trying to justify the changes.

I'm just gonna not watch any YouTuber that treats it like canon but enjoy the show independently. They nailed the atmosphere and Walton Goggins was my favourite western actor since Hateful Eight.

[AC Denton]

It's absolutely amazing and one of the most faithful adaptations ever made lol
Compare it to any other film adaptation of a game, they're all weak

It's canon, get over it. The only people that don't consider it canon are those that don't know the lore as well as they think they do lol

[opus132]

Nothing after Fallout 1 should be seen as canon to be honest. The setting has been utter garbage after the first game. Wish the series would have ended with Fallout 2.

[NightmareGats]

Anything after FNV isn't canon since it was released.

[Spartan-737]

Originally posted by double barrel daryl:

I agree, and I thoroughly enjoyed the show. It's an official fanfic more than canon lmao. The NCR wiki is a mess because people are trying to justify the changes.

I'm just gonna not watch any YouTuber that treats it like canon but enjoy the show independently. They nailed the atmosphere and Walton Goggins was my favourite western actor since Hateful Eight.

the most intelligent take in these forums people

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by AC Denton:

It's absolutely amazing and one of the most faithful adaptations ever made lol
Compare it to any other film adaptation of a game, they're all weak

It's canon, get over it. The only people that don't consider it canon are those that don't know the lore as well as they think they do lol

The show literally moves shady sands hundreds of miles to LA. And then somehow there's two vaults right in the middle of LA right next to the cathedral and also in the open that the master doesn't know about when his main goal is finding vaults to make smart super mutants.
And then shady sands is nuked before new Vegas takes place but not a single person in new Vegas mentions it, and in fact still talk about shady sands as the capital that's completely fine.

The makers of the show didn't even know the fallout lore.

[Vex Hilarius]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Originally posted by AC Denton:

It's absolutely amazing and one of the most faithful adaptations ever made lol
Compare it to any other film adaptation of a game, they're all weak

It's canon, get over it. The only people that don't consider it canon are those that don't know the lore as well as they think they do lol

The show literally moves shady sands hundreds of miles to LA. And then somehow there's two vaults right in the middle of LA right next to the cathedral and also in the open that the master doesn't know about when his main goal is finding vaults to make smart super mutants.
And then shady sands is nuked before new Vegas takes place but not a single person in new Vegas mentions it, and in fact still talk about shady sands as the capital that's completely fine.

The makers of the show didn't even know the fallout lore.

Todd Howard came out in damage control about the shady sands things saying that "the fall of shady sands" was not it getting nuked the nuke came later. Right on the money with the first two though. There's even more crap like ghouls needing to take meds to not go feral, the whole vault tec asinine logic of "we are going to destroy 99% of the population to help capitalism, Mr house being completely different character, etc.

The only ones praising the show are ones that don't pay attention to anything and are just in it for the iconography. The show doesn't even respect 4's retcons lmao.

I'm pretty sure the creators even stated that the prydwen airship is not in the show its a different airship but if you look at the side you can see "prydwen". The show was a complete mess in terms of its writing and planning

[Argakyan]

The location of Shady Sands has been inconsistent ever since Fallout 2 moved it. I don't have much of a problem with it, this happens all the time with franchises, but if you want to you can absolutely only play Fallout 1 - which I don't see you doing. You're complaining about it on the Fallout New Vegas forum instead of doing that.

[Vex Hilarius]

Originally posted by Argacyan:

The location of Shady Sands has been inconsistent ever since Fallout 2 moved it. I don't have much of a problem with it, this happens all the time with franchises, but if you want to you can absolutely only play Fallout 1 - which I don't see you doing. You're complaining about it on the Fallout New Vegas forum instead of doing that.

I keep seeing this but I dont understand. The location of shady sands has always been between vaults 13 and 15 by the Nevada border, not in the freaking middle of LA.

The maps don't properly align in F1 and F2, but there's nothing in F2 that states that Shady Sands has moved, it's a simple map error, probably intentional so that the military base, vaults 13 and 15 and shady sands can exist in 2.

[psychotron666]

Originally posted by Vex Hilarius:

Originally posted by psychotron666:

The show literally moves shady sands hundreds of miles to LA. And then somehow there's two vaults right in the middle of LA right next to the cathedral and also in the open that the master doesn't know about when his main goal is finding vaults to make smart super mutants.
And then shady sands is nuked before new Vegas takes place but not a single person in new Vegas mentions it, and in fact still talk about shady sands as the capital that's completely fine.

The makers of the show didn't even know the fallout lore.

Todd Howard came out in damage control about the shady sands things saying that "the fall of shady sands" was not it getting nuked the nuke came later. Right on the money with the first two though. There's even more crap like ghouls needing to take meds to not go feral, the whole vault tec asinine logic of "we are going to destroy 99% of the population to help capitalism, Mr house being completely different character, etc.

The only ones praising the show are ones that don't pay attention to anything and are just in it for the iconography. The show doesn't even respect 4's retcons lmao.

I'm pretty sure the creators even stated that the prydwen airship is not in the show its a different airship but if you look at the side you can see "prydwen". The show was a complete mess in terms of its writing and planning

Even then, the fall of shady sands being before new Vegas makes no sense as NPCs in game regularly talk about the well developed capital of shady sands. It would be a pretty big deal if NCR capital fell during the time new Vegas took place.

[Samz]

I've not seen the show yet but I don't get why some people get so annoyed about people not taking certain parts of a series as canon.

[Vex Hilarius]

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Originally posted by Vex Hilarius:

Todd Howard came out in damage control about the shady sands things saying that "the fall of shady sands" was not it getting nuked the nuke came later. Right on the money with the first two though. There's even more crap like ghouls needing to take meds to not go feral, the whole vault tec asinine logic of "we are going to destroy 99% of the population to help capitalism, Mr house being completely different character, etc.

The only ones praising the show are ones that don't pay attention to anything and are just in it for the iconography. The show doesn't even respect 4's retcons lmao.

I'm pretty sure the creators even stated that the prydwen airship is not in the show its a different airship but if you look at the side you can see "prydwen". The show was a complete mess in terms of its writing and planning

Even then, the fall of shady sands being before new Vegas makes no sense as NPCs in game regularly talk about the well developed capital of shady sands. It would be a pretty big deal if NCR capital fell during the time new Vegas took place.

Yeah a simple change from 2277 to 2281 would make it all fine but no Bethesda, or Amazon, can't do simple things right the first time and have to resort to damage control after the fact.

[El inservible]

Originally posted by AC Denton:

It's absolutely amazing and one of the most faithful adaptations ever made lol
Compare it to any other film adaptation of a game, they're all weak

It's canon, get over it. The only people that don't consider it canon are those that don't know the lore as well as they think they do lol

Its a terrible show with a well made fallout (4) skin on it

[Gillman]

Originally posted by Vex Hilarius:

Originally posted by psychotron666:

Even then, the fall of shady sands being before new Vegas makes no sense as NPCs in game regularly talk about the well developed capital of shady sands. It would be a pretty big deal if NCR capital fell during the time new Vegas took place.

Yeah a simple change from 2277 to 2281 would make it all fine but no Bethesda, or Amazon, can't do simple things right the first time and have to resort to damage control after the fact.

No, it would not still be fine. What they did with the NCR was just a humiliation. I'm pretty the NCR was an afterthought in the writer's room, someone probably just mentioned it like halfway though writing and they just decided to make their raiders instead NCR remnants. They couldn't work with what was already there or set it somewhere else like the east coast or maybe Chicago, so they bulldoze the old lore.