Why so many people hate this game all over the internet now?

[[OCe]Kagari]

I just dont get it, sure its gameplay doesnt age well, but it's narrative and characters are the most memorable for me, even compared to the more modern fallout 4

[Terminal Desolation]

because it's always trendy to hate on the "most popular" or "most beloved" in a franchise

[Gillman]

Two words: Bethesda soyboys.

[Maboi Laurence]

To play devil's advocate, FNV is carried by the writing and quest design, gameplay hasn't aged that well.

I could say Arcanum is one of the best RPGs of all time, but that would be a lie because, although its theme and story are arguably better than New Vegas which is already fantastic when it comes to that, it was a mess from a game design perspective even back in the early 2000s.

[AC Denton]

They don't.

This game is praised by like everyone.

[~D3L1NGQUENT~DU0~]

They dont is right!! its WIDELY praised as the best fallout game ever. and one of the greatest RPGs of all time.

[NightmareGats]

Buthesda drones cant accept Fallout 1,2 and NV are superior and are the true Fallout games, instead of their slop fallout 4,76 e tv show.

[LCpl Nubcake]

The response is probably done in the wake of the Fallout TV show and a bunch of people trying to ride the Hype after hearing about New Vegas's reputation as "The Best Fallout Game" from the internet.

[Crusader (Banned13x)]

"Normie" types flocking to Fallout for the first time cause of the TV show.

+ Not understanding or appreciating RPGs because it's not like their favorite battle royale/CoD/Counter-Strike game.

+ NV fanboys hyping the game to the moon like it was the messiah of the industry that they are awaiting the second coming of.

[Vex Hilarius]

It's about 50/50. Half are trolls, but half are newer players or bethesdrones. They hear NV is the "best" Fallout and confuse it with "perfect" and get mad because they don't see what the majority sees.

Of course, they could just leave a negative review and move on with their lives, but that won't fuel their drama needs. They have to come and spew outlandish crap to get a rise out of people. Or they think by having players tell them how to enjoy something is going to make them enjoy something. The past couple months I have seen the most crazy of takes which is why I'm being generous and saying only have are trolls.

[Goof]

Originally posted by OCeKagari:

I just dont get it, sure its gameplay doesnt age well, but it's narrative and characters are the most memorable for me, even compared to the more modern fallout 4

because we live in a world of contrarianism, thats really it. If people like something, there is a counter culture that will blindly not like it

[Vassago Rain]

Because that's what the internet's for.

[Spartan-737]

because hearing someone praise something over and over again without end can just get grating

[Mooman]

War, war never changes...

What is war at its core? A difference in ideology. It can be over anything, lines on maps, politics, religion, race, gender... even sport is a type of war.

Humans like conflict.

[A]

I think its about power and control idk not sure how many gender wars we're going to see many humans dont like and avoid conflict but yeah ideology and hate can play a role but also you can have many ideologies and not have a war and i guess i see what you're trying to say about sports, but i dont necessarily agree that competition or rivalry is a form of war I think the underlying motives are different

Originally posted by Mooman:

War, war never changes...

What is war at its core? A difference in ideology. It can be over anything, lines on maps, politics, religion, race, gender... even sport is a type of war.

Humans like conflict.

[Drizzt]

Originally posted by Maboi Laurence:

To play devil's advocate, FNV is carried by the writing and quest design, gameplay hasn't aged that well.

I could say Arcanum is one of the best RPGs of all time, but that would be a lie because, although its theme and story are arguably better than New Vegas which is already fantastic when it comes to that, it was a mess from a game design perspective even back in the early 2000s.

i almost bought Arcanum a few minutes ago - since game design problems would not bother me if it was the classic BG style RPG that it seems to be - and it is available for a few bucks - and Activision does not appear to have bothered to go the popular route today of locking classic games behind online accounts and DRM or data mining etc

and i have heard great things about it

but apparently the steam version is very broken - so i decided to give it a miss

plus i am not sure i can go back to the BG type games again

whereas classic Fallout just has that extra tingle of its gritty theme, plus absurd humour, as well as tactical gunplay and all sorts of character skill based scenarios - that i am sure i will persevere with my latest game at least a little while longer

but New Vegas on the other hand i have no problems with on a mechanical gameplay level - i love it lol - i can shoot and loot fiends in VATS all day long - and i can plan my route and my progression so that i have the appropriate skills for various quests or conversation etc by the time i reach them

i really do have no problem with the age of the engine so long as the gameplay is smooth - which i find it to be - as it is in most games since Half Life 2 (which also birthed Steam) - regardless of whether they use the Source Engine - but it was a benchmark of where technology was in the mid 2000's, which was a big leap from the games of the late 90's and early 2000's

i can still play Morrowind for hundreds of hours (just with a mod to increase the view and add distant land) - without any change to the mechanical gameplay

i do think certain game types age worse than others

and so some of our classics should probably stay in their CD covers, lest they disappoint - or just entirely fail to work

while others just keep going through the ages

and for me NV is still one of my favourite games to play

while i have not fired up BG 1 or 2 in a long time - despite them being two of my all time favourite games (they gave me my name and my avatar after all lol)

whereas i reckon i could still enjoy the original Civilisation if i was in the mood

but Transport Tycoon Deluxe or OpenTTD i am not sure - since Factorio has all of the great signalling of the trains - plus lots of automation - and real time supply and demand of resources that actually get put to visible use in my factory

obviously the list goes on - but some games survive in our playlists and some do not

and that list will likely be different for everyone

but there may be some overlap in the games that survive and those that don't

but New Vegas seems to be one of those all time classics for me

and as much as some may despise the very notion of what i am about to say - i suspect Fallout 4 may well be one of those too - it has been 7 years for me, and a few thousand hours - Skyrim is a few more years, probably a thousand or so more hours - and still playing Morrowind and New Vegas for hundreds of hours at a time (can't calculate full Morrowind time since was originally before Steam - and i may well have played a load of New Vegas from disk as well)

whereas i tried to replay some Oblivion recently and got bored after maybe a dozen hours - i put maybe a few dozen into Fallout 3 a little while back- but that didn't make it either

whereas New Vegas just keeps on rolling

and my next challenge is to complete Honest Hearts really early so i can have the suppressed .45 really early lol :-)

happy gaming :-)