Fallout: New Vegas

Fallout: New Vegas

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YFN_Ratchet May 16, 2024 @ 10:29pm
[Fallout TV Show Spoilers] It was easy to make THAT event make sense and here's how.
So, let's get started. I'll spoiler everything in case someone misclicks or whatever.

Shady Sands was the wrong place to nuke because of a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ of lore muddying that ♥♥♥♥♥ up the story and projected timeline of the games that came way before and not-so-coincidentally were not loremastered by Bethesda themselves. So how is this fixed so easily, you may ask?

The Divide. The Divide should have been the event.

In 2274, Aaron Kimball sends NCR troops to occupy the Hoover Dam and the Mojave. Shortly afterwards, the Legion marches on the Mojave Wasteland. The First Battle of Hoover Dam is definitively in 2277, so both factions have made a proper establishment here and the conflict told of in the Divide between the two factions would reasonably be occurring around this time.

What other event, pray tell my friends, happens shortly before the events of Fallout: New Vegas? The nuking of the Divide. They could have said that the nuking of The Divide happened around or in 2277, and the refugees of Vault 4 could have been NCR refugees from The Divide. Hell, it could have been locals from The Divide, leaving the greater NCR to be expanded on in other portions of Season 1 or in Season 2.


They were THIS close. THIS close. It pisses me off, and it should piss you off too.
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The TV show is set in LA which is around 272 miles away from NV and the divide seems to be near NV as the courier can walk to and from there. it would take someone from the divide to LA around 4 days (using the middle of Las Vegas as the starting point) which after 200 years of disrepair of the roads, hostile wildlife, needing to sleep and needing to find food and water would make that take even longer.


Nuking shady sands was an okay idea, but how they did it in the show was not that good. Like why not have the enclave use it's orbital platforms to attack the NCR. They could have used B.O.M.B 01. Or have the BOS use a nuke they found laying around in a pre-war air force base.

But instead we got Vault-Tek nuked the NCR. like it does not even make sense NCR was formed by residents of Vault 15 so why would vault tek nuke a city that was made by people from a Vault-Tek vault
LCpl Nubcake May 17, 2024 @ 1:55am 
You know what would have been interesting? If it was the Courier who nuked Shady Sands at the end of Lonesome Road. Intentionally or otherwise according to the theme of that DLC.
fmalfeas May 17, 2024 @ 5:07am 
Are we forgetting that the timeline in the classroom is made by a literal cult dedicated to a pre-war scientist who is somehow still alive and is absolutely not above lying and sending raiders to massacre known innocents /including the child of her supposed friend that she keeps the feral ghoul husk of as a pet/?

Why are they being trusted by anyone for giving an accurate timeline?
delta... rune.... May 17, 2024 @ 5:28am 
They could have just set the TV show in a different state entirely. Macguffin moldaver could have just been the leader of some other generic rebel faction instead and little about the show's writing would have had to change.
Vex Hilarius May 17, 2024 @ 5:56am 
I'm actually proud of this community. When the show came out all I heard was the blind loyalty and praises. Glad to seee its awful writing is getting through to people. I feel like this show's reception is going to age like milk like the Mandalorian. Clap for mediocrity and ignore ♥♥♥♥ writing and that is all that we will ever get.
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YFN_Ratchet May 17, 2024 @ 10:24am 
Originally posted by DaveQwerty:
The TV show is set in LA which is around 272 miles away from NV and the divide seems to be near NV as the courier can walk to and from there. it would take someone from the divide to LA around 4 days (using the middle of Las Vegas as the starting point) which after 200 years of disrepair of the roads, hostile wildlife, needing to sleep and needing to find food and water would make that take even longer.


Nuking shady sands was an okay idea, but how they did it in the show was not that good. Like why not have the enclave use it's orbital platforms to attack the NCR. They could have used B.O.M.B 01. Or have the BOS use a nuke they found laying around in a pre-war air force base.

But instead we got Vault-Tek nuked the NCR. like it does not even make sense NCR was formed by residents of Vault 15 so why would vault tek nuke a city that was made by people from a Vault-Tek vault

In most Fallout games the player character is expected to span comparable distances and trader caravans from the Shady Sands/Hub area routinely travel up the I-15 to stop off at the Mojave Outpost.

It's not a total moonshot to say that the survivors spent days or weeks in the wastes of inland CA and developed a tribe and rituals in an effort to superstitiously protect them from the dangers of the environment and grant them a path to retribution like the show depicts their central motivation.

It'd only take about two weeks to go from Clark Mountain (rough area of The Divide) to Los Angeles at a meandering pace including full rests and stops for scavenge/resupply. Not to mention, Hank McLean is depicted as entering the Mojave alone so chances are he made the same journey as a lone vault dweller in a partial PA suit. Could have siphoned water from the pouch in the suit but his food supply came from somewhere else.
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Buddy Christ May 17, 2024 @ 12:21pm 
It made sense to me. I don't get the drama. OH wait a second I do get the drama, it was artificial and created by the usual Grifters on Twitler and youtube and it was disproven a few days after the show launched.

"Move along!" :cozybethesda:
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