Is the Enclave finally dead? (SPOILERS FOR SHOW AND GAMES)

[Crabsgoodeats]

Attacked in 76 by the Vault 76 Dweller and the early Brotherhood, their oil rig exploded in 2 by The Chosen One, Defeated in 3 by the Brotherhood and The Lone Wanderer, remained as remnants in NV, and scavengers in 4. I was still surprised and excited to see them alive and functioning in the TV show. These guys have taken so many L's that I'm still in disbelief that the new Brotherhood hasn't found them or any other faction hasn't eradicated them yet again.

[Vassago Rain]

OP made like 25 of the thread's 30 posts.

[The Real Private Kowalski]

Crabsgoodeats の投稿を引用：

Attacked in 76 by the Vault 76 Dweller and the early Brotherhood, their oil rig exploded in 2 by The Chosen One, Defeated in 3 by the Brotherhood and The Lone Wanderer, remained as remnants in NV, and scavengers in 4. I was still surprised and excited to see them alive and functioning in the TV show. These guys have taken so many L's that I'm still in disbelief that the new Brotherhood hasn't found them or any other faction hasn't eradicated them yet again.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Enclave_Vault-Research_Control?so=search
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Chicago#cite_note-1
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/MacArthur_Army_Base

Even if you don't count the Non-Cannon TV show the ENCLAVE are not dead.
As for why the BOS or NCR have not killed them yet, they (like the BOS) have plot armor so every time Todd and Emil are too lazy to make a new faction they can bring them back.

[GoreTiger]

The enclave themselves are not dead, they're just fractured.

Think of them like what happened after the fall of the Empire in Star Wars. All the generals and such took their enclave groups and commanded them like they are the main enclave.
The enclave have bases all around the mid U.S, with a huge chunk of their force in Canada as well. You can meet an enclave remnent in far harbor who talks a little about how the fractured enclave are operating. That they've "lost their vision".
They aren't dead, they're just not a unified fighting force at the moment. They'll probably return when the Canadian remnents decide to take a stroll across the border.

DaveQwerty の投稿を引用：

Crabsgoodeats の投稿を引用：

Attacked in 76 by the Vault 76 Dweller and the early Brotherhood, their oil rig exploded in 2 by The Chosen One, Defeated in 3 by the Brotherhood and The Lone Wanderer, remained as remnants in NV, and scavengers in 4. I was still surprised and excited to see them alive and functioning in the TV show. These guys have taken so many L's that I'm still in disbelief that the new Brotherhood hasn't found them or any other faction hasn't eradicated them yet again.

https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Enclave_Vault-Research_Control?so=search
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Chicago#cite_note-1
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/MacArthur_Army_Base

Even if you don't count the Non-Cannon TV show the ENCLAVE are not dead.
As for why the BOS or NCR have not killed them yet, they (like the BOS) have plot armor so every time Todd and Emil are too lazy to make a new faction they can bring them back.

The show is canon, Confirmed by Todd Howard. I hate it too.

[Thiagaval]

i think they just have a LOT of bases and bunkers, which doesnt make sense but ok

[The Real Private Kowalski]

GoreTiger の投稿を引用：

The show is canon, Confirmed by Todd Howard. I hate it too.

Yeah i know that. No need to remind me

[The Real Private Kowalski]

GoreTiger の投稿を引用：

The enclave themselves are not dead, they're just fractured.

Think of them like what happened after the fall of the Empire in Star Wars. All the generals and such took their enclave groups and commanded them like they are the main enclave.
The enclave have bases all around the mid U.S, with a huge chunk of their force in Canada as well. You can meet an enclave remnent in far harbor who talks a little about how the fractured enclave are operating. That they've "lost their vision".
They aren't dead, they're just not a unified fighting force at the moment. They'll probably return when the Canadian remnents decide to take a stroll across the border.

Also No Canadian Enclave that's just head-Cannon, most likely they fled to chicago during Broken Steel and are rebuilding there before they get whipped out by the BOS again only to somehow be back again next game.

[GoreTiger]

DaveQwerty の投稿を引用：

GoreTiger の投稿を引用：

The enclave themselves are not dead, they're just fractured.

Think of them like what happened after the fall of the Empire in Star Wars. All the generals and such took their enclave groups and commanded them like they are the main enclave.
The enclave have bases all around the mid U.S, with a huge chunk of their force in Canada as well. You can meet an enclave remnent in far harbor who talks a little about how the fractured enclave are operating. That they've "lost their vision".
They aren't dead, they're just not a unified fighting force at the moment. They'll probably return when the Canadian remnents decide to take a stroll across the border.

Also No Canadian Enclave that's just head-Cannon, most likely they fled to chicago during Broken Steel and are rebuilding there before they get whipped out by the BOS again only to somehow be back again next game.

It's not headcanon, The former Enclave member in FH came from a Canadian Enclave detachment that was patrolling across the border.

[The Real Private Kowalski]

GoreTiger の投稿を引用：

DaveQwerty の投稿を引用：

Also No Canadian Enclave that's just head-Cannon, most likely they fled to chicago during Broken Steel and are rebuilding there before they get whipped out by the BOS again only to somehow be back again next game.

It's not headcanon, The former Enclave member in FH came from a Canadian Enclave detachment that was patrolling across the border.

No he didn't. He was from a scouting party that went from the capital wasteland up to the commonwealth or somewhere else in the northeast. Even if it was a Canadian Enclave it was only a squad or 2 at most. So not that much manpower

If you need a reminder on what he says watch this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nm1YBpeo8Bs

[PurpleBeast]

Enclave was destroyed in Fallout 2, only remnants remain scattered around Nevada as old Veterans, In bethesda games, they just wanted to replicate the cool villain to destroy just once again

[100% lob juice]

Schrodinger's Enclave:

they're dead whenever bethesda wants them to be dead, the most powerful force in the wasteland whenever bethesda wants them to be.

[The Real Private Kowalski]

PurpleBeast の投稿を引用：

Enclave was destroyed in Fallout 2, only remnants remain scattered around Nevada as old Veterans, In bethesda games, they just wanted to replicate the cool villain to destroy just once again

In the Black isle games they had a army base somewhere in the mid west, They had Enclave Vault-Research Control, In the Fallout bible they had bases all around the world, Implying that the map on the rig was a map of there bases. And in NV they had a base in Chicago
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Enclave_Vault-Research_Control?so=search
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Chicago#cite_note-1
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/MacArthur_Army_Base

[Tribe Reimanen]

運び屋さん の投稿を引用：

Schrodinger's Enclave:

they're dead whenever bethesda wants them to be dead, the most powerful force in the wasteland whenever bethesda wants them to be.

"I dont know if the Enclave is dead or alive untill i look in the next Bethesda Fallout script"

[Tribe Reimanen]

Crabsgoodeats の投稿を引用：

Vex Hilarius の投稿を引用：

The been dead since Fallout 2, all that remains is old geezers spread out in Nevada to escape the NCR. Anything else is fanfiction.

Okay, so you are either smoking weed or just joking because this is the most garbage theory I've ever heard of.

Thats literally how it is though?