7 years later, Fallout: The Frontier

[Dikasmusha]

What's everyone thinking of the mod so far? Seems like borderlands-tier writing with some pretty glaring bugs and scripting problems. cutscenes seem completely alien to fallout and overall haven't met a single interesting character or made a choice I cared about. am I a jaded fallout boomer or what? curious to know how everyone's experience is with this.

[Witch King of Angmar]

引用自 Formous：

Aside from a ton of crashing during the NCR rescue, which required me to use Enclave commander as a substitute since the binoculars were causing the crashes, and the occasional audio glitch...It's doing quite fine really. Linear gaming aside, I don't have issue with a linear story myself. The concept of Choice being a critique is not a good one in my opinion. You can't say no to a task because the story just ends if so. But I found choices. Like Netwrk. I can easily live with this, as Fallout isn't some conglomerate of having choices. Fallout is Fallout if it exists in the world of Fallout, plays like Fallout. Which this mod does.

You need to do the other paths, I was turned off when I read the mod description on the NCR but Crusaders... Mormon brotherhood (ffs...) and Legion (I have not tried yet) have ton of choices and dialogue. From my experience, there are some gameplay choices in the Crusaders that if you forget or leave companion behind somewhere, you can't get said ending, so I am not going to spoil but yeah. The NCR ending is probably not the good ending just imo, i'll need to see how it goes on my next run but I will hate it. If they could do it with Crusaders and Legion, why did the devs decide to make it linear for NCR? The supposed canon of the base game is pretty lackluster here.

引用自 Dikasmusha：

引用自 Кап.Петко войвода：

Lol you guys are a bunch of losers complaining about half the stuff in this mod
Such high standards and have you done anything like this yourself? If so show it on here so we can judge if its good or not

as if properly optimizing and modding fallout is hard. lol. just cause it's free doesn't mean it's free from getting criticized, what a consoomer mindset. the devs constantly undermined people giving them advice on optimization (the TTW team in particular) and trash talked mods people have had installed for close to 8 years as "broken" when in reality they simply refused to optimize their bloated mod to work with commonly used mods.

After Cyberpunk I got a little numb to the bugs and crashes. First run was pretty good on a clean install, but god forbid out of chapter 1 the crashes become more frequent. There was a hotfix that helped but that's about it. Main quest for Crusaders was broken and even before chapter one my character kept dying before he could reach the end of the stairs so had to use tgm in consoles. The hotfix on the mod page is now an essential to play the mod even. Some quest markers lead to nowhere and the person simply isn't there and a few you could spend 4 hours walking in a circle without finding anything, even checking every single house in the area.

引用自 Valder：

引用自 Dikasmusha：

I've heard the legion path is much better since the devs worked on it the least and didn't make time to put any of the ridiculous stuff that's in the NCR quests. that said with all the weird sex fetish stuff in this mod I feel like I have a sexout add-on downloaded, uninstalled it last night after I learned about the lizard people and mind breaking a girl so she becomes your slave. the devs are ♥♥♥♥♥♥ in the head.

I like how you can call that girl a ♥♥♥♥♥, she and the whole faction becomes hostile. But when you put slave collar on her, she becomes your most devoted follower

I think that's an "evil" choice; same thing with the Lizard sex, I mean if you pay attention to what you are doing... oh yeah and the Lizard quest does not have a good option, it's just morally gray quest. You end up helping noone, either way, basically Frontier in a nutshell... I think they wanted to make the whole mod as close to New Vegas endings as possible so it wasn't far fetched. There are very few good choices here and there and when you make them, the story makes you feel like a complete dumbass and no speech check is going to fix it unlike the base game.

[Dikasmusha]

引用自 Valder：

引用自 Dikasmusha：

yeah I've read some similar stuff as well, I'll be on the lookout to see if anyone recorded it. what a waste of 7 years lol. I would be embarrassed to put my name on this project if I was one of its devs.

So this stuff was not just random ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:
https://vocaroo.com/1hTolZvFdCtK

you're a hero to us all

[Formous]

引用自 Dikasmusha：

引用自 Formous：

I finally finished the NCR campaign for Frontier. My god, What a wild ride. Horror, Action, Supernatural, and Action. Flying a Vertibird for the first time ever was a Dream! The Tank was Great! AJ is a Awesome character, and the Villain behind it all was, somewhat predictable, but immensely well written.

I urge everyone to try this mod.

this reads like a joke

If you can't accept my opinion, why respond? I don't dive into hatred of a mod. I expect mod quests to take liberties and be fun and difficult. And for a mod, this is right up there with some of my favorite quests mods ever. Frontier takes some real talent to make.

[Formous]

引用自 Witch King of Angmar：

引用自 Formous：

Aside from a ton of crashing during the NCR rescue, which required me to use Enclave commander as a substitute since the binoculars were causing the crashes, and the occasional audio glitch...It's doing quite fine really. Linear gaming aside, I don't have issue with a linear story myself. The concept of Choice being a critique is not a good one in my opinion. You can't say no to a task because the story just ends if so. But I found choices. Like Netwrk. I can easily live with this, as Fallout isn't some conglomerate of having choices. Fallout is Fallout if it exists in the world of Fallout, plays like Fallout. Which this mod does.

You need to do the other paths, I was turned off when I read the mod description on the NCR but Crusaders... Mormon brotherhood (ffs...) and Legion (I have not tried yet) have ton of choices and dialogue. From my experience, there are some gameplay choices in the Crusaders that if you forget or leave companion behind somewhere, you can't get said ending, so I am not going to spoil but yeah. The NCR ending is probably not the good ending just imo, i'll need to see how it goes on my next run but I will hate it. If they could do it with Crusaders and Legion, why did the devs decide to make it linear for NCR? The supposed canon of the base game is pretty lackluster here.

Oh I agree. NCR ends in a catastrophic way. That doesn't make it any less a horror war story. I did expect more war with the Legion, but it is what it is. They had a tendacy towards imaginative torture each time I clashed with them. It's definitely not a good end. More like...the Death of Idealism. A Hell paved by good intentions lead aside by a snake. I am now doing the Crusaders. And honestly, I am probably going to enjoy it. Thats what mods are for. If it gets wild, Well, I have my buckle. I took the NCR route as a dedicated sniper. Now, I am a Sopher with a laser gatling gun. (Contradiction I know. i lost my sanity in the dark place). Legion will be what it is. If that involves being a slave owning warrior, well, I expect that of a Army of Slavers, which is and always will be what Caeser's Legion is. It's just less concealed, and you get into it. Despite the maker's opinion of trump supporters, at least the writing remained true to the Legion. I am happy with that. I will always remember being beat to pieces in this mod, tormented, tortured, and retribution soon after. When I was at Nuln's mercy, I was using the Psyker mod. Seeing what it was looking like after everything, It suddenly made me curious what the hell I did in there. Least the psyker mod gave me a excuse but I gotta wonder. The boss fights are something I NEVER thought I would face in a Fallout game. Nevermind New Vegas. And the Jank-Tank of the NCR is something to fall in love with. Yes! It's cringy. Yes! It's overblown. But I love it. Wanna know a secret about the NCR finish? More you explore, more Buds join you in the birdie.

[Confector426]

引用自 Malala：

Because I hear all the time about "I've played since X" as a justification for their argument and it turns out they're lying, people really like to lie about how long they've been playing/doing something as if it matters. [/quote]

I'm older than the internet. Let that sink in. My parents had an original Pong machine, when it was brand new
I had the original Atari, the Atari 800 and the Atari 2600XL (came with a cool book you could code in your own games with, I liked the skiing one)

I still have some 5.25" and 3.5" disks of things I loved (and a win 2.0, 3.1 suite of 3.5"'s)

I remember when I got my first computer before going off to military school and it had DUAL speed CD-ROM and le gasp 420MB (yes, megabytes) hard drive. I couldn't conceptualize ever filling up such a massive storage device. Ever.

Big problem? There's no digital record of any of that. They didn't exist back then (unless you count a SKU# listed somewhere in the financial records of a games/computer shop that no longer exists (i mean somewhere those records exist if they haven't been shredded and burned due to obsolescence by now)

Since there's no handy way to look up historical information do you just take a lot of history 'on faith' that it actually happened simply because you can't go look up what Sally said to Susie in class in 1865?

I do understand your hesitation to just blithely take anything anyone says on the internet as true (smart call that) however you're also extremely limiting yourself if this is how you honestly conduct your life.

[Malala]

引用自 Confector426：

引用自 Malala：

Because I hear all the time about "I've played since X" as a justification for their argument and it turns out they're lying, people really like to lie about how long they've been playing/doing something as if it matters.

I'm older than the internet. Let that sink in. My parents had an original Pong machine, when it was brand new
I had the original Atari, the Atari 800 and the Atari 2600XL (came with a cool book you could code in your own games with, I liked the skiing one)

I still have some 5.25" and 3.5" disks of things I loved (and a win 2.0, 3.1 suite of 3.5"'s)

I remember when I got my first computer before going off to military school and it had DUAL speed CD-ROM and le gasp 420MB (yes, megabytes) hard drive. I couldn't conceptualize ever filling up such a massive storage device. Ever.

Big problem? There's no digital record of any of that. They didn't exist back then (unless you count a SKU# listed somewhere in the financial records of a games/computer shop that no longer exists (i mean somewhere those records exist if they haven't been shredded and burned due to obsolescence by now)

Since there's no handy way to look up historical information do you just take a lot of history 'on faith' that it actually happened simply because you can't go look up what Sally said to Susie in class in 1865?

I do understand your hesitation to just blithely take anything anyone says on the internet as true (smart call that) however you're also extremely limiting yourself if this is how you honestly conduct your life. [/quote]
You're 60+????

Take your meds boomer

[Confector426]

引用自 Malala：

You're 60+????

Take your meds boomer

Learn some manners and show some respect for those that have survived entire worlds you don't even have the frame of reference to comprehend actually existed, pampered pup

[VinnyTheSavage]

引用自 Valder：

引用自 Dikasmusha：

yeah I've read some similar stuff as well, I'll be on the lookout to see if anyone recorded it. what a waste of 7 years lol. I would be embarrassed to put my name on this project if I was one of its devs.

So this stuff was not just random ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:
https://vocaroo.com/1hTolZvFdCtK

so this was made by antifa supporters? gross

[Confector426]

引用自 VinnyTheSavage：

引用自 Valder：

So this stuff was not just random ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥:
https://vocaroo.com/1hTolZvFdCtK

so this was made by antifa supporters? gross

are you effing serious?

♥♥♥♥ it, protesting to steam. ♥♥♥♥ ANTIFA this needs to be removed immediately.

[Venetoi]

I'm... not quite enjoy the mod, it's too heavily scripted and action packed, feels like I'm playing a really bad CoD clone, and it crashes a lot too,

[Pieniadz9]

引用自 Venetoi：

I'm... not quite enjoy the mod, it's too heavily scripted and action packed, feels like I'm playing a really bad CoD clone, and it crashes a lot too,

yeah the mod is pretty ♥♥♥♥, the story kinda feels like they didn't know what they wanted to do, and a lot of it is pretty cringy especialy the hallucination and flashback segments . I've heard that the legion questline is somewhat better, tho still have to finish the NCR one so i can't really say myself.

引用自 Confector426：

are you effing serious?

♥♥♥♥ it, protesting to steam. ♥♥♥♥ ANTIFA this needs to be removed immediately.

lmao

[Liberty or Death]

I'm coming back to New Vegas after several years. I have everything installed correctly, but don't know where to go to start The Frontier quest line. Brand new character, I just want to head straight into this. Can anyone tell me where the quest begins?

[Pieniadz9]

引用自 Liberty or Death：

I'm coming back to New Vegas after several years. I have everything installed correctly, but don't know where to go to start The Frontier quest line. Brand new character, I just want to head straight into this. Can anyone tell me where the quest begins?

Wait 24h after you get to level 11 and you should have a guy come up to you

[Formous]

引用自 Liberty or Death：

I'm coming back to New Vegas after several years. I have everything installed correctly, but don't know where to go to start The Frontier quest line. Brand new character, I just want to head straight into this. Can anyone tell me where the quest begins?

North of Vegas is a place called the NCR outpost camp or something some such. Should be marked when the guy visits you and immediately fast travel ready.

[street sign]

im disappointed. can't stand the chosen one bs at the beginning and how everyone immediately goes "oh its the courier!" this feels like a creative writing assignment taken a bit too far.