Daniel or Graham

[Vitriaum]

Who is the best choice.

[Jarbler]

Graham.

[Killjoy]

Yeah Graham unless you want to see... Xion turned into a garbage dump by the Whitelegs.

[Straybow]

Daniel

[Zeno]

Originally posted by Rico:

Who is the best choice.

Just look on the wiki and decide. I'd recommend Graham, and Daniel is pretty much scarred either way. I think thew very best ending is agreeing with Joshua Graham and then convincing him to spare Salt-Upon-Wounds.

[Vassago Rain]

I've never seen anyone unironically side with Daniel.

[Friday 13]

No matter which side you choose, Daniel always unhappy at the end, just less or more.

[skyking]

Choose Graham, kill Salt-Upon-Wounds anyways

[Straybow]

I will admit I prefer graham if only to listen to more of his dialogue. Still daniel has some nice ones.

"Throughout our history, we have called many places Zion. This valley is full of God's beauty, but it's just a place. Zion is more than this"

He is also spot on about Joshua.

[Vassago Rain]

Originally posted by Lysimarkos:

I will admit I prefer graham if only to listen to more of his dialogue. Still daniel has some nice ones.

"Throughout our history, we have called many places Zion. This valley is full of God's beauty, but it's just a place. Zion is more than this"

He is also spot on about Joshua.

Both characters are awesomely written. It's just that Daniel had to be the one with the bonkers outlook on literally everything.

[psychotron666]

Why would anyone ever help Daniel? He wants to flee to a new land so that the tribals keep their innocence. In a world of rapists and murderers and mutant monsters, they want to go find a non existent utopia where nobody tries to take your stuff. All that will result in is getting enslaved raped or killed (or all 3) by someone other than the white legs

[Akasaki]

Danial is a one nice gun fighter, good stat and help the sorrow to stand. But his personality just opposite to the thing Graham and The Father, even the dlc's main lesson teach you. This is the right time to angry and fight, for the right cause. I just side with him for the achievement but other playthrough i always support Graham. He's not bad at the core but the way he interact with the courier is pretty bad. Get angry and shoot the courier if player decided not to take part in this conflict, Even courier cannot save the tribe members in the final quest, he will talk sh t to you...which is pretty lame b tch compared to Graham.

If Daniel decide to guide player to the entrance of the The great stair case or to the cave we entered Zion, and realized that The White legs already surrounded the area and convinced the courier that it wont be safe to go back alone right now so please stay and help us and they will accompany you back. (Which player can choose freely to action, to kill and take the map and sneak pass the White legs patrol and proceed to Mojave or Stay and help). Or the final quest, if he say that he will carry on the tribe's sorrow, sadness to not the forget the history but will make the survived tribal build the happier future instead. This would be a better chat for his personality.

[red255]

he doesn't want them to BECOME white legs. The soul being what matters, in the end.

Functionally if you side with graham you just run south down the map and kill the white legs to their leader. then if you chose to graham kills the leader and you don't need a boss battle and the DLC ends.

for some reason thats worse than having a boss battle at the end of the DLC. I'm not sure why.

If you side with Daniel you have a set of quests and objectives to handle their escape.

From a Role play perspective, I'm their for establishing trade routes to Zion with the Happy Trails Caravan.

I'm also looking for a way back home. As my role play reasons dictate my character would side with joshua, because that gets me home quickest and gets my goal accomplished.

you don't get PAID per se either way, which is sad. Happy trails should give you a commission or something but theres plenty of end of DLC loot that who cares.

[Scythia]

Personally, I agree with Joshua more, because I'm too cynical to believe in the inherent goodness of people anymore. I understand where Daniel is coming from, and it does hurt a little to see the Sorrows becoming killers when they slaughter the White-Legs, but I feel like that's the way of the Wasteland. If I were more idealistic, I could see myself supporting Daniel, but life hasn't been that kind. It probably also doesn't help that I'm not a person of faith such as he.

[Saint Tivadar]

Graham, Daniel is too idealistic to believe that innocence is forever (even in the real world this is not true). Graham is the realist who realizes that there is no negotiating with a people that is hell bent on your destruction and acts out of self defense.

[Straybow]

Graham's way probably had the better outcome but I don't think Graham himself was right. He wants a reason to shed blood, having a righteous cause probably only makes it worse.