What is the DEAL with Honest Hearts?

[Captain Skinny]

I very rarely do this, seeking outside the game for someone to give me a quick answer, but I am stumped.

So we show up to Zion, things go less than ideally for us, and now I find myself alone. I don't think I missed any name drops or key info when talking to the crew before leaving or in the little slide show, but the only thing my log is telling me to do is cross the map to find a key item.
Now, I've had my qualms with FNV not really providing much info when it comes to the next step in quest, so I've become a little dependent on the quest markers, or at least have come to trust they know where they need to be.
So I saunter on across the valley and head into the narrows, and am immediately aggro'd by a tribal. All fine and expected. But defending myself makes me fail some quest, and then some well-dressed named NPC also comes at me. So I'm scratching my head a bit, but its not like FNV doesn't do this all the time, making you pick factions, so I'm not too worried.
I kill (in self defense) across the Narrows, find a little jar and there's my item.

And all it says it 'now you can leave' but that leaves me dumbfounded, so I indeed ft back to the exit and lo and behold, I can indeed simply leave, playing some slide show I eschewed for the time being, since I didn't actually play the DLC.

What in the world is this? I have no problem with exploring, but I really prefer to do so in a way which for roleplaying reasons makes sense. And since my guy is totally alone in a foreign land with scant supplies and some really dangerous enemies, the role I'm playing says don't wander into random caves and crap.
I am just very surprised at how they introduce you to Zion, and the subsequent lack of general direction once you're there.

[Ladez]

You mistook an important NPC for an enemy at the beginning and attacked him, causing multiple quests to fail, basically skipping the entire story.

It's a common mistake. You should have gotten multiple failed quest notifications, though.

[COINCELPRO]

they're not honest and they're not hearts

[Doggy Friend]

The hearts were rigged from the start...

[Captain Skinny]

Originally posted by Ladez:

You mistook an important NPC for an enemy at the beginning and attacked him, causing multiple quests to fail, basically skipping the entire story.

It's a common mistake. You should have gotten multiple failed quest notifications, though.

Aw crap, some guy named like Chips?
I think I'm wearing his hat.

[Dallas S]

Yeah you killed follows chalk. Doing so (or killing any friendly npc) basically discounts the entire dlc and gives you an alternative way of completing it by murder hoboing your way out.

What's supposed to happen is after your caravan gets killed, when you cross the first bridge a tribal shoots at you, then follows chalk shows up and he kills that guy from behind, and the talks to you and joins you to the first quest. You probably killed that guy, which is an honest mistake, I've done it my first play through too because I grenade launchered the guy shooting at me and killed both not even knowing there was another guy behind him.

However what made me realize what I did was all the large "quest failed" notifications I got on my screen and in my journal, so I reloaded.

[Vassago Rain]

The deal with honest hearts is to punish players who think every character is an enemy.

[Vex Hilarius]

Originally posted by Captain Skinny:

Originally posted by Ladez:

You mistook an important NPC for an enemy at the beginning and attacked him, causing multiple quests to fail, basically skipping the entire story.

It's a common mistake. You should have gotten multiple failed quest notifications, though.

Aw crap, some guy named like Chips?
I think I'm wearing his hat.

Ah yes. Follows-Chalk's older, obese brother, Follows-Chips.

[Jawey]

Originally posted by Vex Hilarius:

Originally posted by Captain Skinny:

Aw crap, some guy named like Chips?
I think I'm wearing his hat.

Ah yes. Follows-Chalk's older, obese brother, Follows-Chips.

He's been gorging himself on all those Potato Crisps.

[Captain Skinny]

Yes, so I've met talkative-chalk. It took me 3 or 4 reloads to make the whole thing run properly, but it worked out. I appreciate the responses.

[Tommy Wiseau]

i think i killed that tribal too. Its not a great dlc honestly only part i like is talking to joshua graham and telling him i killed ceasar.

[Tribe Reimanen]

I like how you have made multiple posts complaining about stuff not making sense but it just turning out it was your own wrong doing lolz

[Captain Skinny]

Well, I'm not really complaining. I was asking for clarification. The game is notoriously buggy, and I will not retread my dissatisfaction with the journal system here.
I think its a great game and I've enjoyed the DLC quite a bit.
But I don't think its really fair to say it was my wrong doing... I just watched my team get slaughtered by a bunch of doods in wacky tribal clothing.
Then I see some tribal standing on a rock, weapon in hand, too far for my pip boy to pick him up but not too far to put a 308 through his skull, and then I didn't get a failed quest notification until I killed everyone in the narrows.
its reasonable desu but ive seen you enough on the forums to know youre a big fan and generally well meaning

[Cannibal Holiday]

Originally posted by Ladez:

You mistook an important NPC for an enemy at the beginning and attacked him, causing multiple quests to fail, basically skipping the entire story.

It's a common mistake. You should have gotten multiple failed quest notifications, though.

I had that happen many, many years ago with Ultima VI.
Wandering around the world, killing the random gargoyle mobs that constantly attack. Enter a new area, see a giant gargoyle and instantly attack it. After big battle can't figure out where to go next. Eventually find out he's an intelligent talking gargoyle that you needed to talk to. Crap.

[ConnorA333]

I did the same thing a week ago when I attempted the DLC, except I had targeted some enemies using V.A.T.S with my grenade launcher, and all of a sudden, it appeared that Follows-Chalk was behind a rock to the left hand side and got hit as well. I didn't think much of it, so continued through, saving frequently, only to find that I had messed up big time by the "end" of it.

[Tribe Reimanen]

Originally posted by Captain Skinny:

Well, I'm not really complaining. I was asking for clarification. The game is notoriously buggy, and I will not retread my dissatisfaction with the journal system here.
I think its a great game and I've enjoyed the DLC quite a bit.
But I don't think its really fair to say it was my wrong doing... I just watched my team get slaughtered by a bunch of doods in wacky tribal clothing.
Then I see some tribal standing on a rock, weapon in hand, too far for my pip boy to pick him up but not too far to put a 308 through his skull, and then I didn't get a failed quest notification until I killed everyone in the narrows.
its reasonable desu but ive seen you enough on the forums to know youre a big fan and generally well meaning

As ive said in one of your previous posts, you can just have a journal with you IRL and write stuff down. As for shooting the Tribal, thats still your own mistake. The tribals that attacked you had distinctive hair, markings and clothing. When you found out he was named, it should have been logical to assume he was more than just a common enemy.