Dust Expansion Project question

[Sgt. Sarge]

Has anybody been able to get this mod to work? I want to use it but it causes crashes in the main menu, the developer's suggestion didn't really help to get it to work

Mod in question: https://www.nexusmods.com/newvegas/mods/80640?tab=description

[Mechenyi]

DUST itself is broken to hell, and you basically have to play it with no other mods installed for it to work half-way properly, so that's probably the issue.

[Sgt. Sarge]

Originally posted by Yurodivyi:

DUST itself is broken to hell, and you basically have to play it with no other mods installed for it to work half-way properly, so that's probably the issue.

Not answering my question and I have mods installed and game runs fine.

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Sgt. Pariah:

Originally posted by Yurodivyi:

DUST itself is broken to hell, and you basically have to play it with no other mods installed for it to work half-way properly, so that's probably the issue.

Not answering my question and I have mods installed and game runs fine.

DUST itself is broken. Whether it crashes or not isn't relevant. There is no answer to your questions because DUST is so totally broken that any combination of your other mods, DUST, and the DUST expansion could be causing crashes.

It's literally bad enough that basically everything and anything out there has at least minor conflicts with DUST, include mods "designed" to "work" with it.

Your only option is to learn xEdit/GECK and learn to fix things yourself. Word of warning, fixing everything broken in DUST is probably a multi-year project for an experienced team of modders.

[Sgt. Sarge]

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Originally posted by Sgt. Pariah:

Not answering my question and I have mods installed and game runs fine.

DUST itself is broken. Whether it crashes or not isn't relevant. There is no answer to your questions because DUST is so totally broken that any combination of your other mods, DUST, and the DUST expansion could be causing crashes.

It's literally bad enough that basically everything and anything out there has at least minor conflicts with DUST, include mods "designed" to "work" with it.

Your only option is to learn xEdit/GECK and learn to fix things yourself. Word of warning, fixing everything broken in DUST is probably a multi-year project for an experienced team of modders.

Guess I am asking in the wrong place cause my New Vegas is running fine with Dust and a few other mods except for the expansion project

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Sgt. Pariah:

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

DUST itself is broken. Whether it crashes or not isn't relevant. There is no answer to your questions because DUST is so totally broken that any combination of your other mods, DUST, and the DUST expansion could be causing crashes.

It's literally bad enough that basically everything and anything out there has at least minor conflicts with DUST, include mods "designed" to "work" with it.

Your only option is to learn xEdit/GECK and learn to fix things yourself. Word of warning, fixing everything broken in DUST is probably a multi-year project for an experienced team of modders.

Guess I am asking in the wrong place cause my New Vegas is running fine with Dust and a few other mods except for the expansion project

No, it *looks* like it's running fine. A V8 running on 4cyl looks like it's running fine to someone who is totally unfamiliar with how cars work too or should perform.

Fundamentally, large parts of the game that you may not always notice are broken by DUST. That's an actual objective, verifiable fact. You could see that in 5 seconds yourself just opening it up in xEdit. It will cause odd crashes, incorrect behavior, broken skill checks, broken AI, and did I mention odd crashes?

But since you don't actually understand what "broken" means, you'll no doubt chalk any crashes up to "Bethesda jank" and "bad engine" when anything behaves oddly.

Any place you could get a good answer will be the "wrong place" because literally anyone who knows enough to help - and this includes people who actually worked on DUST - will tell you it's broken and not fixable without incredible amounts of work.

[Sgt. Sarge]

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Originally posted by Sgt. Pariah:

Guess I am asking in the wrong place cause my New Vegas is running fine with Dust and a few other mods except for the expansion project

No, it *looks* like it's running fine. A V8 running on 4cyl looks like it's running fine to someone who is totally unfamiliar with how cars work too or should perform.

Fundamentally, large parts of the game that you may not always notice are broken by DUST. That's an actual objective, verifiable fact. You could see that in 5 seconds yourself just opening it up in xEdit. It will cause odd crashes, incorrect behavior, broken skill checks, broken AI, and did I mention odd crashes?

But since you don't actually understand what "broken" means, you'll no doubt chalk any crashes up to "Bethesda jank" and "bad engine" when anything behaves oddly.

Any place you could get a good answer will be the "wrong place" because literally anyone who knows enough to help - and this includes people who actually worked on DUST - will tell you it's broken and not fixable without incredible amounts of work.

I asked how to get a mod for a mod to work, not for people to cry about how broken the mod is. But I found a solution so its not a big deal anymore.
Edit: Also the crashes are not Bethesda's fault (nor the engines), I know what is causing the crashes

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by Sgt. Pariah:

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

No, it *looks* like it's running fine. A V8 running on 4cyl looks like it's running fine to someone who is totally unfamiliar with how cars work too or should perform.

Fundamentally, large parts of the game that you may not always notice are broken by DUST. That's an actual objective, verifiable fact. You could see that in 5 seconds yourself just opening it up in xEdit. It will cause odd crashes, incorrect behavior, broken skill checks, broken AI, and did I mention odd crashes?

But since you don't actually understand what "broken" means, you'll no doubt chalk any crashes up to "Bethesda jank" and "bad engine" when anything behaves oddly.

Any place you could get a good answer will be the "wrong place" because literally anyone who knows enough to help - and this includes people who actually worked on DUST - will tell you it's broken and not fixable without incredible amounts of work.

I asked how to get a mod for a mod to work, not for people to cry about how broken the mod is. But I found a solution so its not a big deal anymore.
Edit: Also the crashes are not Bethesda's fault (nor the engines), I know what is causing the crashes

Getting it to work is different from getting it to "work". It will never work, although it might "work".

As I said, if you ask places where people know what they're talking about, that's the only answer you will get.

[Reverie]

Hey, just wanted to know how you fixed it? I am having the same problem.

[Sgt. Sarge]

Originally posted by Creeps:

Hey, just wanted to know how you fixed it? I am having the same problem.

I had to download two more mods to make the game more stable (NVAC, 4GB Patcher) So just make sure you have all those addons that make the game run a bit better. Still crashes from time to time though cuz Dust is Dust

[MadSAU]

To get DUST - Expansion Project work, you need to:
- Download and install 4GB Patcher, NVSE, xNVSE, NVAC, Tick Fixer - general stability fixes.
- Use MO2 and not FOMM as a loader.
- Install all the required mods (DUST, Tweaks and EP)
- Put them AS YOUR LAST MODS in the loader order. DUST, and by extension, all of it's tweaks, DEMAND to be there, otherwise they won't be working at all or might have various bugs/issues.

Speaking from very fresh experience here. It not only works, but it's... unusually stable.

[Sgt. Sarge]

Originally posted by Gerr Swastillion:

To get DUST - Expansion Project work, you need to:
- Download and install 4GB Patcher, NVSE, xNVSE, NVAC, Tick Fixer - general stability fixes.
- Use MO2 and not FOMM as a loader.
- Install all the required mods (DUST, Tweaks and EP)
- Put them AS YOUR LAST MODS in the loader order. DUST, and by extension, all of it's tweaks, DEMAND to be there, otherwise they won't be working at all or might have various bugs/issues.

Speaking from very fresh experience here. It not only works, but it's... unusually stable.

A little late but I will make it the topic answer