A Newbie Friendly Modding Discord?

[Patches]

(I'm posting this to discussions for Fallout 3, NV and Oblivion)

I'm looking to mod Fallout 3, New Vegas and Oblivion so I can go through those again with some slight fixes and stuff, but I'm not very tech savvy and still new to modding. I would mod Skyrim as it was easier to do, but even then I didn't do great. Is there a Discord that's good for helping folks like me to figure out how to do all what's needed for things to work well? I'd probably need to screen share to make sure I'm doing things right.

I do want to mention I have looked up guides and videos but it's all still very complicated to me. If anyone knows a good Discord or even if someone here is willing to help me out on Discord, I'd be very grateful. Thanks!

[Vex Hilarius]

What exactly is complicated for you? Modding is just downloading files, unzipping them, and putting them in the game folder to install. With a Mod manager it does unzipping and installing for you.

Not trying to be an ass, just want to know what is complicting you so I can point you in the right direction. The best discord probably would be Viva New Vegas you can try that.

[Patches]

Messaggio originale di Vex Hilarius:

What exactly is complicated for you? Modding is just downloading files, unzipping them, and putting them in the game folder to install. With a Mod manager it does unzipping and installing for you.

Not trying to be an ass, just want to know what is complicting you so I can point you in the right direction. The best discord probably would be Viva New Vegas you can try that.

A big part is the script extenders and mod loaders for these older games. I'm just worried about screwing things up and spending way more time than I need to without help

[Vex Hilarius]

Messaggio originale di Patches:

Messaggio originale di Vex Hilarius:

What exactly is complicated for you? Modding is just downloading files, unzipping them, and putting them in the game folder to install. With a Mod manager it does unzipping and installing for you.

Not trying to be an ass, just want to know what is complicting you so I can point you in the right direction. The best discord probably would be Viva New Vegas you can try that.

A big part is the script extenders and mod loaders for these older games. I'm just worried about screwing things up and spending way more time than I need to without help

Vive New Vegas guide explains in detail what you need to do and it's discord is probably the most help you're going to get.

[Ladez]

Messaggio originale di Patches:

A big part is the script extenders and mod loaders for these older games. I'm just worried about screwing things up and spending way more time than I need to without help

Screwing up is how you learn. What's the worst that could happen? Reinstalling your game?

Shed the fear and just install some mods to get some experience under your belt.

In terms of discord servers, TTW has one, and xNVSE has one. Nexus Mods also has a server with game specific channels.

[Patches]

Messaggio originale di Ladez:

Messaggio originale di Patches:

A big part is the script extenders and mod loaders for these older games. I'm just worried about screwing things up and spending way more time than I need to without help

Screwing up is how you learn. What's the worst that could happen? Reinstalling your game?

Shed the fear and just install some mods to get some experience under your belt.

In terms of discord servers, TTW has one, and xNVSE has one. Nexus Mods also has a server with game specific channels.

I know I should just let myself go at it and fail to learn how not to do things, I guess it just makes me frustrated and eventually makes me say screw it. What's TTW, by the way?

[Chaosolous]

https://steamcommunity.com/app/22380/discussions/0/3809531933805494142/

I made a post when I started modding NV. That's the link to the post. It's not a discord, but it may help you. I made it to try and ease others into modding. I was tepid too.

Everyone says Vortex is trash, so maybe try Mod Organizer instead, IDK, Vortex has worked fine for me.

[Chaosolous]

Also, once you get the hang of it, adding mods becomes easier. I use NexusMods.com (make an account, you can have a free one). Make sure to read any "requirements" on the mod pages you find, they'll tell you if you need more mods to run them, some mods need other mods.

To be honest, there were a few mods I wasn't able to understand or install because they got a bit complicated. If it looks like you don' know, maybe skip it till you get a feel for it. Once you get a feel for it though, adding and removing mods becomes easier, obviously.

Goodluck.

[Stealth-Boy 3000]

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Messaggio originale di Ladez:

Screwing up is how you learn. What's the worst that could happen? Reinstalling your game?

Shed the fear and just install some mods to get some experience under your belt.

In terms of discord servers, TTW has one, and xNVSE has one. Nexus Mods also has a server with game specific channels.

I know I should just let myself go at it and fail to learn how not to do things, I guess it just makes me frustrated and eventually makes me say screw it. What's TTW, by the way?

Google is your friend. Ttw is amazing!

[Patches]

Now I just need to find a Fallout 3 guide like Vive New Vegas, and then I think I'm good

[Salamand3r-]

Messaggio originale di Patches:

Now I just need to find a Fallout 3 guide like Vive New Vegas, and then I think I'm good

There isn't one.

Essentially all guide authors and modders knowledgeable enough to write guides of that quality recommend using TTW to play Fallout 3. To answer your earlier question, TTW is a total conversion that adds Fallout 3 to New Vegas and makes it a contiguous - but not necessarily continuous - game.

That, and the modding scene for Fallout 3 has been dead for almost a decade. Very few FO3 mods are anything other than buggy messes.

If you still need a discord that covers all the various more modern Bethesda engine games (FO3/NV/FO4/ Oblivion, and Skyrim), ModdingLinked (the discord for VNV) covers all. It's also a new server and new moderators, so if you've been there before and were repulsed by the ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥, we're cleaning it up quite a bit.

Messaggio originale di Ladez:

In terms of discord servers, TTW has one, and xNVSE has one. Nexus Mods also has a server with game specific channels.

I wouldn't recommend xNVSE for normal user support tbh. It can be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cesspool at time. I'm on most of the big NV modding servers, and xNVSE is permanently on mute - even with my high tolerance for shenanigans, it's just absurd there sometimes.

[Doom Sayer]

Messaggio originale di Stealth-Boy 3000:

Messaggio originale di Patches:

I know I should just let myself go at it and fail to learn how not to do things, I guess it just makes me frustrated and eventually makes me say screw it. What's TTW, by the way?

Google is your friend. Ttw is amazing!

I severely question using it while having mods from new vegas in fallout 3 is nice but fallout new vegas also barely works with or without mods. Like I never had technical issues in fallout 3 but over years playing/attempting to play new vegas I have had sever graphical bugs, ctds, etc. It doesnt make it easier that top mods on nexus instantly break your game on modern systems or have coding errors.

It genuinely makes me wonder if people should have done reverse of TTW and put new vegas into 3 and modded that instead since fallout 3 is a much more stable base than new vegas.
Like its not even a matter of preferring 3 i just like my game to boot, not crash or have weird graphical bugs.

I genuinely question if i will ever replay new vegas because every time i try the game self destructs.

[Salamand3r-]

Messaggio originale di Doom Sayer:

Messaggio originale di Stealth-Boy 3000:

Google is your friend. Ttw is amazing!

I severely question using it while having mods from new vegas in fallout 3 is nice fallout new vegas also barely works with or without mods. Like I never had technical issues in fallout 3 but over years playing/attempting to play new vegas I have had sever graphical bugs, ctds, etc. It doesnt make it easier that top mods on nexus instantly break your game on modern systems or have coding errors.

It genuinely makes me wonder if people should have done reverse of TTW and put new vegas into 3 and modded that instead since fallout 3 is a much more stable base than new vegas.
Like its not even a matter of preferring 3 i just like my game to boot, not crash or have weird graphical bugs.

I genuinely question if i will ever replay new vegas because every time i try the game self destructs.

Most people have far more issues running FO3. It's better recently with the recompiled executable, but your experience is atypical. Despite having a vastly lower player count on Steam, FO3's forums are just as full, if not moreso, of people who can't run the game on modern hardware. That's a hard fact.

As to the top mods on Nexus being broken - yeah, same as the top mods on every game's Nexus are the oldest and most broken mods for their given games. Top mods are top mods only by virtue of having been around the longest. It's not a sign of quality, and shouldn't be taken as such.

Finally, the reason NV can't be dropped back into FO3, i.e. reverse TTW, is that FO3 is just that much more primitive. NV's engine *is* slightly different, it *is* newer, and on top of that it's been largely decoded by the community - which means that engine level bugs, some of which were inherited from FO3, can actually be fixed by mods.

Not only that, but the modding scene is actually still active. Bugs are still being fixed, patches still being made. FO3 doesn't have that luxury.

And on a personal note, NV's mechanics, crafting, weapon mods/ammo, and DT/DR setup are just more fun than FO3's. And while you need maybe 30 mods in FO3 just to gain *near* feature parity between how both games play, FONV doesn't need any FO3-specific improvements ported over.

[Patches]

Messaggio originale di Doom Sayer:

Messaggio originale di Stealth-Boy 3000:

Google is your friend. Ttw is amazing!

I severely question using it while having mods from new vegas in fallout 3 is nice but fallout new vegas also barely works with or without mods. Like I never had technical issues in fallout 3 but over years playing/attempting to play new vegas I have had sever graphical bugs, ctds, etc. It doesnt make it easier that top mods on nexus instantly break your game on modern systems or have coding errors.

It genuinely makes me wonder if people should have done reverse of TTW and put new vegas into 3 and modded that instead since fallout 3 is a much more stable base than new vegas.
Like its not even a matter of preferring 3 i just like my game to boot, not crash or have weird graphical bugs.

I genuinely question if i will ever replay new vegas because every time i try the game self destructs.

I've dealt with that a lot back when I used to play it on the 360. I can run both, but I just want some quality of life mods, maybe gun mods or more perks, and something to make things more stable for both. Something I do like about 3 is that you can keep playing after you beat it.

Messaggio originale di Salamand3r-:

Messaggio originale di Doom Sayer:

I severely question using it while having mods from new vegas in fallout 3 is nice fallout new vegas also barely works with or without mods. Like I never had technical issues in fallout 3 but over years playing/attempting to play new vegas I have had sever graphical bugs, ctds, etc. It doesnt make it easier that top mods on nexus instantly break your game on modern systems or have coding errors.

It genuinely makes me wonder if people should have done reverse of TTW and put new vegas into 3 and modded that instead since fallout 3 is a much more stable base than new vegas.
Like its not even a matter of preferring 3 i just like my game to boot, not crash or have weird graphical bugs.

I genuinely question if i will ever replay new vegas because every time i try the game self destructs.

Most people have far more issues running FO3. It's better recently with the recompiled executable, but your experience is atypical. Despite having a vastly lower player count on Steam, FO3's forums are just as full, if not moreso, of people who can't run the game on modern hardware. That's a hard fact.

As to the top mods on Nexus being broken - yeah, same as the top mods on every game's Nexus are the oldest and most broken mods for their given games. Top mods are top mods only by virtue of having been around the longest. It's not a sign of quality, and shouldn't be taken as such.

Finally, the reason NV can't be dropped back into FO3, i.e. reverse TTW, is that FO3 is just that much more primitive. NV's engine *is* slightly different, it *is* newer, and on top of that it's been largely decoded by the community - which means that engine level bugs, some of which were inherited from FO3, can actually be fixed by mods.

Not only that, but the modding scene is actually still active. Bugs are still being fixed, patches still being made. FO3 doesn't have that luxury.

And on a personal note, NV's mechanics, crafting, weapon mods/ammo, and DT/DR setup are just more fun than FO3's. And while you need maybe 30 mods in FO3 just to gain *near* feature parity between how both games play, FONV doesn't need any FO3-specific improvements ported over.

I agree NV has better mechanics over all, I just wanna go through 3 itself with what I'm looking for with NV, stability and maybe some weapons/perks.

[Ladez]

Messaggio originale di Salamand3r-:

I wouldn't recommend xNVSE for normal user support tbh. It can be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cesspool at time. I'm on most of the big NV modding servers, and xNVSE is permanently on mute - even with my high tolerance for shenanigans, it's just absurd there sometimes.

Well, they're all really just reference tools for me, as I detest instant messaging, so as long as the information is correct it works for me.

[Salamand3r-]

Messaggio originale di Ladez:

Messaggio originale di Salamand3r-:

I wouldn't recommend xNVSE for normal user support tbh. It can be a ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥ cesspool at time. I'm on most of the big NV modding servers, and xNVSE is permanently on mute - even with my high tolerance for shenanigans, it's just absurd there sometimes.

Well, they're all really just reference tools for me, as I detest instant messaging, so as long as the information is correct it works for me.

Fair - as long as you use search and stick to the useful channels xNVSE has good data. I've just seen so many people turned off by the shenanigans in the General chat channels.