modded fallout crash

[NGS | dildo_swaggins]

so iv been modding fallout nv since i bought it and every time i leave docs house my game will load for a few seconds then crash i think its my load order since iv never bothered to edit it the game will load up its self and i can tell my mods work since my modded weapons are in docs house but when i leave it crashes
load order:
1. YUP
2-5. WME
3. widow shotgun
4. titans of the new west t-49xv colossus TOTNW patch
5 weapon re-texture project
6. weapon mod expansion.esm
7. unnecessary physics
8. unlimited companions 101
8. uncut wasteland plus NPCs
9. ulysses companion mod
10. ulysses and riot gear combo
11. UIO
12. true home tow hero
13. titans of the new west B42 compatibility skeleton
14. titans of the new west
15. this is freeside _1.0.6
16. the strip uncut npcs
17. the mod configuration menu
18. the living desert
19. the inheritance
20. the gun runners m60 animated ammo belt
21. gun runners m60 main file
22. THE ♥♥♥♥ GOBLIN (wtf even is this?)
23. the better angles
24. T51b power armor replacement
25. T45d power armor replacement.esp
26. t45d power armor replacement TOTNW patch
27. t45d power armor replacement
28. supplementary weapon pack
29. STRobot companion
30. stewie tweaks
31. ST robot race v2
32. STRobot race war sentry fixed mesh
33. someguy series 2 dot 0
34. simple smoking
35. RX 10mm SMG advanced customizing
36. russell version 1.17
37. ruger SR-556
38. riot gear neck cover
39. riot gear eye re-texture
40. Remington 870 sawedoff
41. Remington 870 4k
42. realistic movement 1.0
43. realistic ammo 0.1
44. reaction to player pointing weapon
45. ragdolls
46. project navada support for seirra power helmet
47. project navada 2_5
48. overrun followers outpost
49. oldfaithful (40mm cannon)
50. NVAC
51. NV compatibility skeleton
52. NPCs travel rebalence
53. NPCs sprint in combat
54. NPCs can miss
55. NPCs level overhual
56. no visual death affect
57. NVSE 6.2.7
58. new Vegas killer
59. new vegas heap replacer
60. new NPC weapons
61. NCR robots
62. nailgun retexture
63. MWRWPBOS14
64. more realistic aiming
65. mojave express courier delivery work
66. modded armor compatibility-book of steel patch
67. MK117 prototype combat armor project Nevada patch
68. millenia_coltm4a1
69. legion power armor re-placer
70. M37 ithaca
71. lonesome road sierra power armor helmet
72. lonesome road carbon shadow fix
73. L96A1
74. kNVSE
75. king of the ring
76. just assorted mods
77. joshua grahams revenge never gonna give you up edition
78. johnny guitar
79. JIP realistic weapon overheating
80. JIP NVSE plugin
81. interior lighting overhaul 6-9
82. industrial hand re-texture
83. impact-impact the gaming rig
84. immersive recoil 2.3.2
85. immersive pick up sounds compatibility patch
86. hush unique marksmen rifle
87. HK_CAWS
88. hapless falling
89. FNV realistic waste land lighting all DLC
90. FNV NPCs travel
91. FNV mod limit fix
92. FNV m101 soldier companion
93. FNV 4GB patch
94. feral ghoul re-texture
95. feral ghoul armor and outfit pack
96. FCO russel add on expansion
97. essential visual enhancements
98. enhanced camera
99. esylum ak
100. elite riot gear eye re-texture
(nice) 101. desert eagle
102. cut primm ncr troopers fix
103. courier helmet
104. courier 6 power armor
105. compatibility patch for JSUE
106. colossus t 49 power armor project Nevada patch
107. colossus t 49 power armor-2- helmet files full rectical
108. colossus t 49 power armor-1- version 3 main file
109. CIQ quad barrel riot shoutgun
110. checkpoint carbine
111. chaotic in fighting in big mountin
112. born again FNV combat armor
113. book of steel compatibility edition
114. better ghouls
115. Beretta92fs
116. bad ♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥♥
117. AWO survivalist rile re-texture
118-121. asurah reanimation pack
122. armored ghouls have DT
123. ars in the wastes v2
124. ASK74U
125. advanced riot gear eye re-texture
126. 360 movement
127. OJO texture pack for FNV
im still set on it being the load order since if it was the mods the game wont even launch or the mods wont deploy but i just got done updating mods and deleting every thing and reinstalling it but it still have the same problem

[🥵]

there are tons of outdated mods or mods you really shouldn't be using if you want a stable game and your plugins aren't in the correct order

[NGS | dildo_swaggins]

Originally posted by 🥵:

there are tons of outdated mods or mods you really shouldn't be using if you want a stable game and your plugins aren't in the correct order

i guessed as much i knew the mods were somewhat out of date is there a way to get them all to run on a new save slot becasue they all worked fine on my last play-trough

[🥵]

no because there's heaps of mods that are totally incompatible with each others, patches for mods that arent in your load order anymore and shouldn't even be (PN and FCO) as well as totally outdated and redundant ones whose function is probably integrated and can be safely enabled or disabled through one of the stewietweaks ini settings.
read through this guide's mods to avoid section and then preferably perform a clean install of the game and use it if you want a fully functioning game
https://vivanewvegas.github.io/avoid-mods.html

[Salamand3r-]

Originally posted by 🥵:

no because there's heaps of mods that are totally incompatible with each others, patches for mods that arent in your load order anymore and shouldn't even be (PN and FCO) as well as totally outdated and redundant ones whose function is probably integrated and can be safely enabled or disabled through one of the stewietweaks ini settings.
read through this guide's mods to avoid section and then preferably perform a clean install of the game and use it if you want a fully functioning game
https://vivanewvegas.github.io/avoid-mods.html

This.

That modlist is a complete dumpster fire. Several of those alone (Project Nevada, for instance) will break your saves over time. Several are just outright broken (FCO). Some are not only broken (Asurah's anims) but superseded by something so vastly superior (kNVSE animation packs) that using them makes zero sense at all.

On top of all that, you're got conflicts out the nose. PN literally conflicts or duplicates functionality from like 3 other mods you have.

The Someguy series is a bit outdated and is currently being remastered. Use the NVB 1 LE version for now, and wait on the rest of the series.

Ojo is about the worst texture pack to use solo - aside from a lot of weird jank, the Nuka machine model will cause your FPS to take a ♥♥♥♥, and occasionally outright crash the game.

Enhanced Camera is weird hackery and incompatible with some newer mods.

WME/WMX are broadly incompatible with a ton of other mods, and due to their age and jank many mods don't get patched for them anymore.

Interior Lighting Overhaul is obsolete and broadly incompatible. Use Simple Interior Lighting Overhaul instead.

In general, just start completely over, and avoid mods from before 2018ish unless you are willing to learn how to manually patch things in xEdit yourself.

[NGS | dildo_swaggins]

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

Originally posted by 🥵:

no because there's heaps of mods that are totally incompatible with each others, patches for mods that arent in your load order anymore and shouldn't even be (PN and FCO) as well as totally outdated and redundant ones whose function is probably integrated and can be safely enabled or disabled through one of the stewietweaks ini settings.
read through this guide's mods to avoid section and then preferably perform a clean install of the game and use it if you want a fully functioning game
https://vivanewvegas.github.io/avoid-mods.html

This.

That modlist is a complete dumpster fire. Several of those alone (Project Nevada, for instance) will break your saves over time. Several are just outright broken (FCO). Some are not only broken (Asurah's anims) but superseded by something so vastly superior (kNVSE animation packs) that using them makes zero sense at all.

On top of all that, you're got conflicts out the nose. PN literally conflicts or duplicates functionality from like 3 other mods you have.

The Someguy series is a bit outdated and is currently being remastered. Use the NVB 1 LE version for now, and wait on the rest of the series.

Ojo is about the worst texture pack to use solo - aside from a lot of weird jank, the Nuka machine model will cause your FPS to take a ♥♥♥♥, and occasionally outright crash the game.

Enhanced Camera is weird hackery and incompatible with some newer mods.

WME/WMX are broadly incompatible with a ton of other mods, and due to their age and jank many mods don't get patched for them anymore.

Interior Lighting Overhaul is obsolete and broadly incompatible. Use Simple Interior Lighting Overhaul instead.

In general, just start completely over, and avoid mods from before 2018ish unless you are willing to learn how to manually patch things in xEdit yourself.

damn didn't think it was that bad i got it to run for a whole 134 hour run of the game with 90 saves and well ya struggling to get it to run sometimes and having to redo the mod list several times trying not to leave stuff out and add more at the same time but it ran and it ran really well most of the time i really should have checked the dates one the mods that's on me but even if i learned how to fix all this and make it play nicely together would it really even be worth it if better mods of the original things are already out because as you said its a dumpster fire but also i use nexus and iv heard a few things about it being really bad to use especially for fallout but iv never had too much of a problem up till now and is there a better mod manager to use instead?

[🥵]

Originally posted by NGS | dildo_swaggins:

Originally posted by Salamand3r-:

This.

That modlist is a complete dumpster fire. Several of those alone (Project Nevada, for instance) will break your saves over time. Several are just outright broken (FCO). Some are not only broken (Asurah's anims) but superseded by something so vastly superior (kNVSE animation packs) that using them makes zero sense at all.

On top of all that, you're got conflicts out the nose. PN literally conflicts or duplicates functionality from like 3 other mods you have.

The Someguy series is a bit outdated and is currently being remastered. Use the NVB 1 LE version for now, and wait on the rest of the series.

Ojo is about the worst texture pack to use solo - aside from a lot of weird jank, the Nuka machine model will cause your FPS to take a ♥♥♥♥, and occasionally outright crash the game.

Enhanced Camera is weird hackery and incompatible with some newer mods.

WME/WMX are broadly incompatible with a ton of other mods, and due to their age and jank many mods don't get patched for them anymore.

Interior Lighting Overhaul is obsolete and broadly incompatible. Use Simple Interior Lighting Overhaul instead.

In general, just start completely over, and avoid mods from before 2018ish unless you are willing to learn how to manually patch things in xEdit yourself.

damn didn't think it was that bad i got it to run for a whole 134 hour run of the game with 90 saves and well ya struggling to get it to run sometimes and having to redo the mod list several times trying not to leave stuff out and add more at the same time but it ran and it ran really well most of the time i really should have checked the dates one the mods that's on me but even if i learned how to fix all this and make it play nicely together would it really even be worth it if better mods of the original things are already out because as you said its a dumpster fire but also i use nexus and iv heard a few things about it being really bad to use especially for fallout but iv never had too much of a problem up till now and is there a better mod manager to use instead?

mod organizer 2 is the go-to mod manager for bethesda games these days. NMM is bottom of the barrel and hasn't been updated in years. also yes it's totally worth it to make a better modlist, you experiencing problems is solely due to ancient mods made using outdated modding techniques which caused your game to bloat. read through the guide i linked and install everything in the utilities and bugfixing sections. after that just look for more up to date mods. almost every old mod you're using is either redundant because of stewietweaks or has a modern alternative which is actually maintained by its uploader and won't cause your game to collapse in on itself

[NGS | dildo_swaggins]

mod organizer 2 is the go-to mod manager for bethesda games these days. NMM is bottom of the barrel and hasn't been updated in years. also yes it's totally worth it to make a better modlist, you experiencing problems is solely due to ancient mods made using outdated modding techniques which caused your game to bloat. read through the guide i linked and install everything in the utilities and bugfixing sections. after that just look for more up to date mods. almost every old mod you're using is either redundant because of stewietweaks or has a modern alternative which is actually maintained by its uploader and won't cause your game to collapse in on itself [/quote]
thanks for the help now its just the hard part, finding everything and getting it working