Fallout: New Vegas

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EasyDubai Apr 19, 2018 @ 1:28am
Who do you consider to be the most righteous faction?
That you can support in the ending, and give a reason, give me a full-on college essay if you want. I have no idea why I made this.
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Bansheebutt Apr 19, 2018 @ 6:06am 
NCR. Once they get rid of kimball and his manifest destiny crap, focusing more on the existing nation, NCR would easily be the most desirable place to live in the Fallout universe.

You always see someone on the forum boasting the virtues of the legion, ignoring they would be crucified on the spot.

House is a middle-ground.
Last edited by Bansheebutt; Apr 19, 2018 @ 6:10am
Haxel Haze Apr 19, 2018 @ 7:13am 
Me, Myself, and I
Independant.
Power to the people.
EasyDubai Apr 19, 2018 @ 6:13pm 
Originally posted by Zaz Bacon:
You always see someone on the forum boasting the virtues of the legion, ignoring they would be crucified on the spot.
I can see where you are coming from with the Legion's savage and brutal ways, even when faced with Nipton a town where the Powder Gangers took residence and let all men come be they NCR, Legion or neutral parties such as the Followers, they seemingly destroyed Nipton for crimes relating to it's debauchery citing prostitutes and the ilk, yet Legion men are encouraged to essentially, go into some Slave Girl's tent and procreate, with or without consent and obviously some could counter argue that they do this for purely pragmatic reasons, so they can create children who will be indoctrinated to the Legion's "virtues" these actions deviate from ancient Romans and more resembles Ancient Muslims where a similar process would take place, this could be a double-edged sword as the moment a Courier isn't there to fix his little SPOILERS FOR A 8 YEAR OLD GAME! tumour or he dies from old age he will leave the Legion defenseless, now I imagine something similar will happen with NCR and it's presidents as pointed out by Caesar himself where in which after Tandi's family line died out the NCR's virtue degenerated with her and similarly with the canon ending of Fallout 1 where after the Master died his army lost their virtues and wandered elsewhere, of course in the case of the Master the canon ending had him announce the Super Mutant's sterility but you get where I'm coming from as Caesar put himself in a similarly high postion, as a Demigod among men similar to Genghis Khan born Temujin who was told to be the Ruler of the Universe but after his death a power vacuum occured and such a great vacuum a civil war practically took place this shall happen with Caesar as some Legion high-rank will try to kill his way to the top and at this point in his hypothesis I imagine that Caesar would have amassed hundreds or even thousands of troops, so it would be the logical option to convince lower ranks who command many other troops to indoctrinate them to this hypothetical man and eventually I see that the Legion would split itself into dozens of Sub-Factions attempting to destroy or conjoin with the other and if the Leader isn't a crazy old autocrat their core values WILL change and possibly lead to a Democratic Legion who may still have savage ways with their insistance on melee combat but may have a better reputation and possible diplomatic associations that don't involve trickery and envoys who hate the Faction they are trying to align with.
EasyDubai Apr 19, 2018 @ 6:13pm 
Apparently P R O S T I T U T E S is a swear.
Shalashaska Apr 19, 2018 @ 6:23pm 
NCR>Mr House>Legion for me. Anarchy can be wherever depending on your karma.
Demonic Goddess Apr 19, 2018 @ 7:04pm 
Originally posted by Zaz Bacon:
NCR. Once they get rid of kimball and his manifest destiny crap, focusing more on the existing nation, NCR would easily be the most desirable place to live in the Fallout universe.

You always see someone on the forum boasting the virtues of the legion, ignoring they would be crucified on the spot.

House is a middle-ground.
DeGeNeRaTeS LiKe YoU bElOnG oN a CrOsS

Legit though it really depends on the direction you want humanity to go in. NCR follows old world order and will likely crumble as the old world did if they're not careful, but the many troops believe they are fighting the good fight.

Mr. House, while being dictatorial in nature, has very profitable and beneficial plans for humanity. He outright tells you that he will eventually be sending humans to space, and he was originally willing to co-operate with NCR for a better future before he found out that they would try to take Vegas from him.

Legion is very misunderstood in my opinion. Sure it's a cruel and brutal faction, but Caesar's lands are much safer for travelers than the NCR could ever hope to achieve. The main problem is that the Legion's effectiveness and power derives from its leadership, and once Caesar's gone the Legion will likely crumble through internal conflict. Unless they somehow manage to prolong Caesar's life indefinitely, or can reliably come up with strong leaders equal to Caesar, the Legion could simply be outlived like the Master's army before them.

I usually just see them as DnD alignments: NCR is Lawful, House is Neutral, Legion is Chaotic, and Independant is based on your Karma.
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WillieSea Apr 19, 2018 @ 9:04pm 
Legion is not misunderstood. They rule through fear, torture, brutal force, and slaves. Just like any dictatorship today. How many of you would like to live there? You can forget your freedoms because you have none. And as @Jyacofalltrades noted, it will continually have internal strife, much like Rome did. And thus, why they dress as the romans did.

NCR is like a police state. You may have safety, but you have no freedom.

Mr House does not care about people, just his 'vision'. And his vision will make him a dictator to the people as well. Do it his way or you will be wiped asside.

Being the independant ruler makes you a dictator as well, ruling by fear and death through your robot army.

In the typical fashion of the Fallout series, there is no black and white, all decisions are grey.

There is no rightous faction, and there is no evil faction. They all have some of both, just in different measures.
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Stage Apr 19, 2018 @ 9:33pm 
legion has no respek for whamen = evil
EasyDubai Apr 19, 2018 @ 11:57pm 
Originally posted by Zaz Bacon:
NCR. Once they get rid of kimball and his manifest destiny crap, focusing more on the existing nation, NCR would easily be the most desirable place to live in the Fallout universe.
Of course NCR is usually the Faction most new players align with due to seeming like the "Good Faction" ala the Minutemen but they are not without fault in terms of ruling as exemplified in this, the NCR are undoubtedly becoming an Imperialist faction if unchecked and possibly collapsing, they focus on expansion rather than settling down for the time being hell this is why the Raiders of Vault 3 are so common in the West Mojave as NCR are so thinly spread, if they managed to actually recruit more people to the NCR they could actually do something and their insistence in not siding with the Followers has royally ♥♥♥♥♥♥ them, if the NCR somehow convinced the Followers to work with them exclusively and not associate with Legion troops this could be a huge boost in: Morale, Health and most importantly money as the Followers could be given a cut of medical supplies found by the massive NCR while in turn the NCR get a cut of money from donations but the NCR also has a lot of leverage with tribals and uncontacted so I'd wager that the best way for NCR to get protection for their towns would be mandatory military service for some people of course some people would object to this but they could be convinced if Followers of the Apocalypse members convinced them to help.
Hexenhammer Apr 20, 2018 @ 2:15pm 
Personally, I always choose BoS in every Fallout game, they Militaristic, have Technology, power armor and most advanced weapons, preserved education, science, medicine, technology and so on.
They can defend themselves against any treat.
Power Trough Technology is the only way!

My second choise is NCR, becuase they almost like BoS, just with some democracy and choise, they can build cities and bring back civilization unlike Legion.

The institute from FailOut 4 is also good choise but only after refomartion, repacing humans is bad, creetaing supermutants and sedning them on humans is also bad. Its like dumb teenager wrote FailOut script: Evil institute creates androids and replaces human (but WHY?? Because they EVIL hurdur)

Minutemen are one of the worst factions, but that's because dumb teenage wrote FailOuit 4 story and made minutemen boring and lame Village People/Farmers, the only other faction that beats minutemen in their idiocy is the LameRoad: Lets save Robots because Human constructed products deserve freedom! Democracy for ALL!

Well this post of mine slowly changes into bashing F4, the disappointment from that Dumb Teenage open world survival/base building game which used Fallout skin/lore to sell more copies still cant be forgotten. I have bad dreams about it, the only way Bethesda can redeem themselves to me is if during E3 they announce remakes for F3 and or FNV or another Fallout spinoff made by Obsidian.
Actually if Bethesda buys out Obisidian (they have money) and makes them The Fallout Studio, that will be THE BEST NEWS EVER!
Zhian'tara Apr 20, 2018 @ 6:02pm 
Originally posted by Wontell:
Power Trough Technology is the only way!
If you think power through technology is the way to go, why not side with Mr. House. The Brotherhood only collect prewar technology, but House is one of the most skilled inventors of all time. He designed Pip-Boys, Liberty Prime, all of the robots ending in -tron. If he was in power, he'd most likely move industry ahead. In fact, he even says that given enough time, he'd establish a space program. Not to mention that he wants to peacefully coexist with the NCR.
Mr. House. His plans involving finding humans better worlds to live on, not scarred by nuclear war. He seems content with letting the people do as they please as long as they're not messing with his plans. He's incredibly intelligent and calculating, always thinking of the long term benefits.
Tea Thief Apr 20, 2018 @ 9:42pm 
I always thought Mr. House was the most sound moral choice. He plans a great future for mankind and has shown his compitence as a leader. With his intelligence, consistency, and occasional manifestation of empathy (though subtle), I'd personally choose him over the NCR and the Legion.
I'd choose either NCR OR House over Legion, but House over NCR. Many politicians are squandering and use the office to acquire personal wealth, right? That bloats the state and keeps anything from happening, which Mr House doesn't have to deal with. He ensures such things do not happen in his plans and all he needs to succeed is time. He has all the steps laid out already and assuming the Courier sides with him, things turn out just as he had predicted.
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